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[quote name='jezzaboy' post='642576' date='Nov 1 2009, 04:02 PM']Re Zender Warwick. It wasn`t so long ago he thought the sun shined out of his Gibson les paul bass. And yes, it is overpriced and damm ugly, imo. Jez[/quote] +1

Apart from no Palmer cab sim, that's a Geddy Lee type rack. Avalon and Sansamp.

[quote name='ped' post='641063' date='Oct 30 2009, 01:27 PM']Depends on what you are including in the measurable area, son - the Metro Centre in Tyneside is the biggest in terms of lettable square footage. Westfield is the biggest 'City Centre' mall but when stacked up against out of town developments it isn't as big (third largest at the mo I think) L8z ped[/quote] Geek.

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='640943' date='Oct 30 2009, 11:51 AM']The really heavy ones are usually the ash bodied ones. My CIJ Marcus Miller signature was the heaviest bass I've ever played. Think of it as a sign of serious quality materials [/quote] Are you jesting?

Superb mate! Sounds brilliant! I'm sure you don't need it, but good luck

In the WH Smiths in Ealing Broadway and in Westfield (the largest shopping centre in Europe I might add) they are still carrying last months with no sign of the latest issue.

[quote name='Pete Academy' post='640489' date='Oct 29 2009, 08:50 PM']What's the alternative? I think you're asking too much.[/quote] This is what's been really curious about this thread. There seems to be so much sympathy for this magazine, a specialist consumer product, and the people involved in putting it together and publishing it - journalists and publishers. Now, start a thread called "Coldplay" and most, or many, of us will be slagging off a group of massively successful fellow musicians with the most vitriolic profane statements of opinion.

[quote name='dave.c' post='639800' date='Oct 29 2009, 10:14 AM']Best looking Warwick I have seen is your white one.[/quote] Aww, thanks mate I must admit she looks lovely, I love white basses with black hardware.

[quote name='xgsjx' post='639565' date='Oct 28 2009, 10:59 PM']Ritter Roya's tick the "make me drool" boxes for me, especially if they're made of wood that looks like it would give you splinters.[/quote] Jesus mate, I think my breakfast is just about to see daylight again

[quote name='dave.c' post='639578' date='Oct 28 2009, 11:12 PM']Until now I've never understood the 'thing' about Warwick basses, I tried quite a few and was never really inspired by them and eventually when I was looking for a new fretted bass I went for a Spector Rebop (I prefer the attack of a bolt on neck bass generally) which is fantastic, but I have been looking to take up fretless again as my band now has just bass, keyboards, drums and a little bit of guitar from our singer and I thought the new sound would suit a fretless - my excuse anyway! Back to the point! Monday I went to try a Squier Vintage modified jazz that was being sold privately in Ipswich (+ Quarter Pounders and badass and hard case and as new, really, really good condition at £250 if anyone is interested!) and the chap had a Warwick Thumb bolt on fretless - virtually unused as well as it happened, tried them both and now I understand! Strung with flats it has a wonderful tone, versatile and playable everything I wanted, so I had to have it. Used it at rehersal last night and even though I haven't played a fretless for more years than I care to remember and it sounded fantastic! the rest of the band loved it and I'm now sold and will look at all Warwick basses generally with new ears, if that makes any sense at all. Probably this is story is no help at all to you but I now look at them in a different light, fabulous basses, so get out and try some, not like Fenders but great in their own right, the time was obviously right for me.[/quote] Congratulations Dave! I like stories like that, I was converted to Warwicks in virtually the same way. I bet it weighs a ton though?!

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='639419' date='Oct 28 2009, 08:20 PM']They balance fine though, probably because they weigh a ton.[/quote] Oh not again [size=7][color="#FF0000"][font="Arial Black"]WARWICKS DO NOT WEIGH A TON!! GIDDIT??[/font][/color][/size]

[quote name='MB1' post='639029' date='Oct 28 2009, 01:06 PM']MB1. Ive played the bass your on about!... i really didnt think it was that special to be honest!definately not one to drop on your foot .....in fact i can confidently say i have never picked up a heavier bass.[/quote] It's so weird how some Jazzes are that heavy! Why is that? The one I played must have been at least 14lbs. Made my Warwick feel like a mandolin. What the hell did they make them from? Special Fender Custom Shop Granitised Alder?

[quote name='AndyTravis' post='638990' date='Oct 28 2009, 12:35 PM']yeah, no point in buying, just because...good plan. My jaydee is awesome, i just wonder if i can make it work in the band, or get at least £800 back for it...[/quote] I think it's the romance of an old Fender. But they don't often deliver on the dream I imagine. I've played a few, they were all mediocre, one in particular was a hideous natural wood Jazz from the '70s. It weighed a bloody ton, sounded ordinary, played like sh*te.

[quote name='AndyTravis' post='638961' date='Oct 28 2009, 12:10 PM']er....underwhelmed. It's not a j-retro, couldn't get to grips with it. It has also had a chunk of the paint scraped away from the back. It plays ok ish, but it's twice as heavy as my miller at least, unsure as to it's passive sound. Not the worst neck join i've seen on a 70s fender. Fairly uninspired at the moment. Shame, i did have big plans for this bass. May go up again on my day off...[/quote] Stick with your fisrt instinct man.

[quote name='Beedster' post='638809' date='Oct 28 2009, 09:35 AM']Exactly my experience, dead notes and fret buzz [/quote] Nah, that's just part and parcel of playing Fenders mate

I swap between the two regularly, and when I've been playing fretless for a while, my fretted playing is much more precise and with a better tone because my fingers are much closer to the frets.

[quote name='Ray' post='638513' date='Oct 27 2009, 09:37 PM']I can see the logic in what you're saying but... I always strung my Jazz through the body then one day I thought I'd string it through the bridge to see what difference it would make to the tone and sustain. The first thing I noticed was the string tension. The strings had much less tension in them when tuned to pitch (using the same set of strings too). So much so I had to make a truss rod adjustment! So, in my experience, through body stringing [b]does[/b] increase string tension.[/quote] Mmm, but the string is longer at its termination points, so surely the (theoretical, ie. mine) potential for elasticity is the inverse of what you suggest?

[quote name='steve-soar' post='638503' date='Oct 27 2009, 09:20 PM']That is one of the most ditgusting displays of bass playing, ever.[/quote] Gives a new meaning to "A timeless piece of music" doesn't it

[quote name='GreeneKing' post='638487' date='Oct 27 2009, 09:08 PM']Well the nice BB2000 has agreed with my reasoning in the original thread [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=53990&hl="]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=53990&hl=[/url] If you take it to a kinda stupid extent to work it through, if you had 10 feet of string fixed between the saddle and the ferrule it's plain (for me) to see that the string would be far more floppy. I don't think that thru body stringing makes a huge difference but I certainly don't think it [b]increases[/b] tension at all, barely perceptibly the opposite in fact.[/quote] I agree, to me it can only be the length of the string between the two points, ie. the nut and the bridge saddle. Lengthen or shorten that and the tension will change. Otherwise, how can it? What is tension anyway? Elasticity?

[quote name='RichB' post='638489' date='Oct 27 2009, 09:10 PM']Many thanks. However, it has simply compounded an already acute situation. I'm obviously not as lucky as you. [/quote] I'm wondering if you realise who [b]Alan Coran[/b] is, rather than Alain Caron. Apologies if you do.

[quote name='RichB' post='638467' date='Oct 27 2009, 08:53 PM']I've never listened to 'bass orientated' music. Neither have I even heard of Alain Coran, which only leaves genetics to explain the other. [/quote]

Waiting for Alex to set this straight, I've had the same debate a few times, especially with myself.

[quote name='The Bass Doc' post='638183' date='Oct 27 2009, 05:16 PM']My wife has just seen this post and is accusing me of possessing the complete works of Alain Coran.[/quote] Hah hah! Brilliant I can listen to Alan Coran for a very long time.