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[quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1362564615' post='2001277'] You have to take everything written about Jaco with a pinch of salt. He had a tendency to exaggerate things in interviews and often contradicted himself, including the story about how his bass became fretless: [/quote] Chris Squire's a bit like this too, exaggeration and embellished hazy recollection.

Is your onstage sound your true sound and the FoH engineer is fixing it? It sounds like your rig is a bit limited perhaps? A Jazz is not what I'd ever consider a mountain-leveller but have you consider fitting a pre-amp to your Jazz? Never mind mountains, an East J-Retro 01 can level a continent. Easy to fit and change battery with no mods to your bass, they have a bypass to passive which keeps your original tone and still works with a dead battery, the lows can be huge and there's mid sweep with cut and boost. It is incredibly versatile and I reckon it could be your solution. [url="http://www.east-uk.com/"]http://www.east-uk.com/[/url] Other than that, maybe your cabs are not up to the job?

I really liked LaBella Black Nylon tapes. They have a sort of dark brightness, and nice comfy compliance.

[quote name='lurksalot' timestamp='1362527878' post='2001021'] I think most chart stuff is to cash up and relies more on the promotion than the skill of songwriting , find a formula, promote the bejesus out it and nail its hat on. lyrics and tune follow the promotion and sycophancy of the providers of airtime/press/reviews etc. I think a lot of people could write a hit tune, whether they have the influence to make it a hit is a completely different story. [/quote] So what's one of the formulae then in your opinion? And how do you think they are arrived at? Jazz is highly formulaic isn't it?

Aren't Warwicks bloody marvellous!

Ahahaha! Yep, he is fantastic, makes his Wal talk. Matthew Ashman was a fabulous guitarist too. Check out Orang Outang, you'll think much of it is guitar, but there's a hell of a lot of superb bass in there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31A_wTH-Xjs

[quote name='mentalextra' timestamp='1362512502' post='2000616'] Yeah, but surely, at his level, he would be surrounded by luthiers examining the minutest problem with his bass, especially the DIY defret [/quote] Really? How would they dare? Haven't you f***ed around with your instruments yourself? It's fun and you learn a lot, and it helps develop your sound and the intimacy you have with your instrument.

[quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1362520272' post='2000840'] Not really. The late 90's was the absolute wilderness for any decent 80's outfit. Recent enough to remember firsthand, not yet distant enough to get nostalgic over (irrespective of whether the songs were good or not). Andy did the smart thing, finding himself at a musical impasse as the frontman of a 70's/80's electro rock outfit. He used his means to create a dire pop band, pull the strings and cream the profits. When the time was right for OMD to come back, they came back. Mind you, a cursory glance at the lyrics for 'New Babies, New Toys' should leave you in no doubt as to what he thinks of these naff pop acts, even if he has lined his pockets off the back of one. [/quote] Well reasoned and perfectly fine. I think I'm a realist with music, I love good pop, I love some much more complicated orchestral stuff. I don't think pop gets the respect from musicians that it deserves, it is not easy, and it's usually misjudged by the cognoscenti. Some of it is just to cash up, but most is simply what it is.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1362519732' post='2000826'] He always struck me as being a little bit burnt- out from the Seventies , but a very influential guitarist nevertheless . German hippies are a breed unto themselves . God knows how many are still stuck in far- flung corners of the World trying to hitch hike back to Dusseldorf . [/quote] He's got a very powerful but romantic way of playing and composing. And other than SRV, the only player that sounded a bit like Hendrix but with every bit the same power and total control of the instrument.

[quote name='iceonaboy' timestamp='1362519476' post='2000817'] . Tokyo tapes is a great album, scorpions was the second band I ever seen live but Mathias jabs had already taken over from uli by then [/quote] He was alright, Mathias Jabs. I sort of miss that style of playing, Atomic Tommy M with UFO was damn good too, at the time.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1362519254' post='2000809'] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manual"]http://en.wikipedia....wiki/The_Manual[/url] [/quote] Very good I loved Jimmy Cauty's posters, Avebury, Stonehenge, LotR, and The Hobbit IIRC.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1362518823' post='2000800'] I got Tokyo Tapes for Xmas in 1979 , and went to see them at the first ever Monsters Of Rock at Donnington in 1980 . Imagine my surprise some years later to see Ulrich himself negotiating the crowds of students outside Leeds University one weekday afternoon . [/quote] He runs some sort of weird guitar seminar now, the Sky Academy. He's an amazing musician really.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1362518308' post='2000782'] Well, there y'go. Every cloud... [/quote] Tee Hee

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1362518125' post='2000775'] I am serious . From Wikipedia , but accurate : [b] Atomic Kitten and The Genie Queen[/b] In 1997, McCluskey founded the UK [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_music"]pop[/url] group [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_Kitten"]Atomic Kitten[/url] and co-wrote several of their hit singles. Their song "[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_Again"]Whole Again[/url]", co-written by McCluskey, was his first UK [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chart-topper"]No.1[/url],[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_McCluskey#cite_note-6"][6][/url][/sup] and he and his fellow songwriters were nominated for the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivor_Novello_Award"]Ivor Novello Award[/url] for excellence in songwriting.[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_McCluskey#cite_note-ivor-7"][7][/url][/sup] More recently, McCluskey formed White Noise Records and publishing label where he tried to recreate the formula of Atomic Kitten with Liverpool girl group, The Genie Queen.[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_McCluskey#cite_note-8"][8][/url][/sup] He also bought a recording studio, The Motor Museum, in Liverpool.[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_McCluskey#cite_note-9"][9][/url][/sup] [/quote] [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1362518119' post='2000774'] He was in fact the [i]founder [/i]of Atomic Kitten. [/quote] OMFG!! That's gotta piss Chris2112 off a bit hasn't it? Or perhaps not.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1362518036' post='2000773'] I bumped into him one afternoon in Leeds . True story . Unfortunately my childhood infatuation with the Scorpions was long over . [/quote] I love the Electric Sun stuff. But Tokyo Tapes was a great favourite of mine.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1362517908' post='2000764'] Didn't Andy McClusky end up managing Atomic Kitten , and writing or co-writing most of their hits ? [/quote] Are you f***ing serious!!??

If a bass excites me and makes me want to play it, it's the ONE bass. But that ONE is MANY :s

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1362517593' post='2000753'] Oh come on, surely the bombing of Hiroshima is a perfect subject for a pop song? [/quote] I prefer the Uli Jon Roth approach

[quote name='iceonaboy' timestamp='1362517171' post='2000739'] . Oh my god, I'd forgotten about OMD ! How sh*te were they ? [/quote] They were ace, but f***ing depressing.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1362515952' post='2000719'] You're talking about composers, of course if new instruments are invented they will consider writing for them. That's different to an instrumentalist trying a hundred different instruments when they've already found one that plays well and sounds good. [/quote] It's because most amateurs don't really have a concept of what they want to say through music I think. Play and learn, play and learn, play and learn, buy another Precision, play and learn, play and learn, buy another Precision, play and learn, play and learn, sell a Precision, play and learn, play and learn, play and learn, buy a Jazz, play and learn, ooh I like that harmonic, play and learn, play and learn, buy a Goodfellow, play and learn ..

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1362515148' post='2000696'] Without wishing to deviate too much from the original subject of this thread , I think there was always just as much crap in the charts . The memory is very subjective - you only remember the better stuff from bygone times . Watch the repeats of 1970s TOTP on BBC4 and that point is hammered home every week . [/quote] I remember seeing OMD on ToTP, they depressed the f*** out of me.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1362514363' post='2000680'] Macca? [/quote]

[quote name='seashell' timestamp='1362513966' post='2000665'] Shame I can't think of a rhyme for 'Bunnykins' :-) [/quote] Imma bwoil up mi bunnykins roast 'im in mi rammekins Plate up for di manna kins Get no sh*t on mi napkins

[quote name='mentalextra' timestamp='1362512682' post='2000623'] Well yeah, but I remember hearing a similar question about classical music composers and electronics and synthesisers. Would Brahms or Beethoven have used a synthesiser or drum machine if one was available, I think absolutely they would have. If you are pushing musical boundaries why not. [/quote] Do you really think Beethoven (or anyone) would think the piano could be improved upon?

[quote name='mentalextra' timestamp='1362512318' post='2000608'] Thats interesting, and yes he has an amazing talent. I wonder if he would still be resisting temptation to change if he were alive today [/quote] Musicians like that are obsessed with music, as long as the instrument enables them to express themselves, most of the couldn't give a toss about what else is out there. Why would they? It's almost only us amateurs that keep thinking we could really 'speak' through a Fodera, or a pre CBS Precision, or whatever bollocks.