Musicman20

Cheeky so and sos! I cannot believe they have moaned about the equipment! Just because I wouldnt store a £1K rig at a damp reheasal place! How dare they?! Not one of them play quality equipment, all cheap ebayed £100 guitars. That offends me more than anything.

[quote name='Stylon Pilson' post='841988' date='May 19 2010, 01:13 PM']No mate, it makes [i]them[/i] look like idiots. Post a "bassist available" immediately so that it appears adjacent in the listings. S.P.[/quote] Cheers, I used the template. Lets see what happens. All good fun.

[quote name='OldGit' post='842096' date='May 19 2010, 02:23 PM']Let us know when it's safe to apply for the gig (edit - I mean as a wind-up!) We coud all do it and then no one show up.[/quote] Potentially VERY funny [quote name='steviedee' post='842102' date='May 19 2010, 02:27 PM']Yeah mate sounds like you are well out of it, what was the deal with setting up a full PA what a palaver, that would put me off more than the rehearsals if truth be told, completely stupid.[/quote] The PA issue was CRAZY! I mean, I know I have to know how to use it, but mic'ing a full kit for a rehearsal. I CAN hear the drums thanks, Im STOOD NEXT TO THEM. [quote name='JTUK' post='842108' date='May 19 2010, 02:34 PM']G.... Best out of it, it seems. And as you say it would have been something else soon enough. And the point about promised riches is right on the money for me... At this rate they will never get out of that bedroom. Seriously...you do function work for money ..and of course it can be very enjoyable, but if you have racked up time and money already with no return and not even one in the can..???...that is either VERY cautious or dilussional..IMO. Waste of your time and money but at least you don't have to honour any commitemnts as it doesn't sound like they have any [/quote] Im kinda a little upset that people can be like this who you learn to try and trust. Im quite relieved in very strange way. Ive not said anything to them yet. Im either just going to ignore everything or send them a mature and stern email. [quote name='Conan' post='842124' date='May 19 2010, 02:48 PM']I see you wasted no time in editing your signature!! Edited because I can't spell "edited". Still not sure it's right... one t or two?! Edited again because I meant "editing" not "edited". Think I'll just give up now![/quote] Hahah, no time like the present good sir! Ive already applied for another band.

Thanks, very busy with my current band.

Gig not going ahead, band messed me about. I have quit before they officially fired me. What a day.

[quote name='Conan' post='842055' date='May 19 2010, 01:53 PM']Jesus. This is like watching a car crash! As SP said, it's them that look like twats Gareth - not you. Bad luck mate. That's Mackems for ya! [/quote] TBH, there were issues that I ignored, like the amount of smoking that occurred during practices. Each to their own, but I hate going home stinking of it and more so my girlfriend cannot stand it. I had to wear old clothes after a while. Plus, its a non smoking building and it has young kids in there practicing. Not good. I really didnt like going to Sunderland. I dont mind the place at all, but the travel was getting on my nerves. I think ill stick to good ol Newcastle hahha. It was like a car crash. I think this would have happened anyway. I would have given up or just not enjoyed it. Another issue, they didnt understand I didnt like to leave high end cabs in the practice room. As they all use quite cheap gear (very odd for a band earning) and they really did just throw it about without caring, ive probably saved myself a lot of problems with looking after my equipment. Hmmm. What a day!

[quote name='Conan' post='842039' date='May 19 2010, 01:45 PM']Is this for real?!? [/quote] Yep. Pro: I found out now, and all of basschat know not to bother with them. Con: I look daft, and I have now got to find another band. I am thinking of a mature response to them.

Thats me out. Backstabbing set of t**ts. Not nice at all, ive spent loads of money rehearsing. Guess they wont be ready for their next two gigs again then. I will make sure they know I know....and make sure I leave them in the sh**. To conclude, I didnt even get chance to ask them about this. All I did was explain I had 3 sets of family visiting over the next few weeks so I could only do one session a week. I am also very busy job hunting! Bit shocked at their appalling lack of honesty. That makes me look like an idiot.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='841939' date='May 19 2010, 12:37 PM']You must have had 'the chat', then... I see they're advertising for a new guy?[/quote] ?! Are they?

[quote name='throwoff' post='841845' date='May 19 2010, 11:10 AM']I absolutely adore this band. Hunter is incredible, if you have not seen them live DO IT! it's a real adrenaline rush. I remember reading a few years back about Hunters Jazz bass which has a built in wireless kit and no input socket. Very cool![/quote] Agreed. Massive adrenaline rush His Precision tone, IMO, makes them sound a little more aggressive. As much as I love the Jazz tone, the P tone helps them live with them having only one guitarist.

[quote name='Starless' post='841637' date='May 19 2010, 03:57 AM']I can't agree with the OP on this one. I suppose it all depends whether you enjoy 'rehearsing' or not. It beats playing on your own along with an iPod, any day. Even though the band might not be the closest of buddies, it is still great to let rip. It's what I joined a band for (playing with others) so I am happy to 'rehearse' anytime for as long as they want, especially as gigs are a bit thin on the ground at the moment. Of course it helps having a rehearsal space that does not have to be paid for, but the OP seemed to be of the opinion that because he has learned his stuff, everyone else should be as perfect as well and not 'waste' his time. Hmmm.. It's a hobby and it's a team game. A hobby that I would gladly do for nothing (even gigging) as we all have day-jobs. You don't see many golfers demanding payment from the golf club for playing on their course - so why should a pub pay us for having a ball? There are thousands of ski-ers out there with expensive kit and horrendous travel costs, but they do it because they get pleasure from it. If I was in a band but baulked at having to actually play together too often, then I would have to seriously question if I had chosen the correct hobby.[/quote] I enjoy playing at home with an ipod, I enjoy playing with people just to jam, and I REALLY enjoy playing live. Ive been playing in a DIY Hardcore Punk band for 2 years, and we never got any decent payment...EVER. It barely covered our petrol, and normally we lost out. I did it because I love playing. Playing live I really did let rip, believe me. Now Ive moved Ive left that band. It is a hobby, but it is also possibly to be semi professional and have it as a small income. Plenty of musicians do it. Why should a rock band be paid?! Covers bands are normally always paid, and if they are not, id think they need to start asking for it. I have another band up here thats my hobby. Its a strange mixture of complex punk mixed with something like Minus the Bear. Very odd. Good fun though. We will never earn. Thats my 'fun' band I do for the sheer hell of loving the whole creation/playing/recording with friends. If you fill a pub to see your covers/function band, you should be paid. Same with virtually all forms of entertainment. You cannot get in the cinema for free can you?! Just because I enjoy it it shouldnt be free. What you arent grasping is that with a covers/professional band/function band, SOMEONE is making money, and if its not the band, the bar/promoter is usually taking it! So why is that fair? Skiing is different. Its not entertainment as such for others, although it definitely can be at a certain level. Its not so easy to be entertainment for others when you ski; its just mainly for your fun. They may well want to see a band though; its more entertaining to a more general slice of the public. Dont get me wrong, I see where you are coming from, but I cannot have that approach to a band which is partly there to bring in an income. [quote name='JTUK' post='841652' date='May 19 2010, 07:28 AM']I think the OP was saying that he was frustrated at exensive rehearsals in both time and money and was this the norm? I'd say the opinion here was that this wasn't normal to rehearse with full band kit, 2 nights a week for 4 months with a gig still a month away. I think it would have been better if the band decided on its line-up ..decided on a set and then get a gig to aim for....which for pubs and with that sort of rehearsal schedule should have taken about 6 weeks, IMV. I wouldn't be overjoyed either...[/quote] Agreed, its overkill at this stage. I could understand it at first, but its almost like they are over-doing it. [quote name='Conan' post='841675' date='May 19 2010, 08:29 AM']Horses for courses. I play as a hobby too, but not everyone on this forum is a musician purely for pleasure. Some are true professionals and most seem to balance the two - i.e. they play because they enjoy it, have a "day-job", but still expect to be treated with respect and earn some financial recompense. If, for example, I give up an evening with my family to travel to a venue, set up my gear, play my heart out for two hours and not get home till well after midnight - should I not expect the venue to pay me for my time and effort? If we have brought maybe fifty or more people (who would not otherwise have been there) into the venue to drink expensive beverages and contribute to the wealth of the venue owner/landlord/etc. OK, in some cases I would gig for free - but I would hate to think that all bands would be [b]expected[/b][i][/i] to!! Its been discussed at great length on other threads whether bands should expect to be paid to play - and its a complex question with many complex answers... Gareth has explained [b]his[/b][i][/i] situation in detail and why it is irritating him. I think (as do many others on here) that he has a fair point. You are free to disagree of course! But the way you phrase it - he is [b]wrong[/b][i][/i]. Now that I [b]do[/b][b][/b] disagree with!![/quote] Completely agree. Its our time, and some gigs can be for free. I still think even small original bands with young musicians should STILL be paid, but thats for another topic haha. Someone is making money, and after being a promoter for a short period, I know exactly how much can be made charging £3 for 3 local bands! Cheers

Finally some threads on AFI!. As much as Im always a fan of early work with banks of this genre, AFIs latest work is really really good. Highly polished, very catchy, awesome melodies, great bass tone (big fat clanky Precision bass cf to his older Jazz tones). Sing The Sorrow is my favourite album. Yes, it is nowhere near as upbeat/fast/punk as their earlier work, but the songs are SO well constructed. I recently went to Groezrock in Belgium. AFI were one of the highlights. Not only do they really enjoy playing live, (its so obvious with how they throw themselves around) the light show, stage props, and awesome singalongs made it perfect for me. I had food poisoning the morning before they played, and I made the Festival about 3 hours later than planned (only missed 1 or 2 bands I planned to see luckily). AFI made it a really really good day, along with A Wilhelm Scream. Highly recommended to see live. Davey's vocals are spot on, and he's finally ditched the daft goth-punk look!

Id choose the Markbass over the Genz Shuttle, but thats just me. It 'sounds' much fuller and they rate the wattages a little more normally with Markbass so its seems louder despite being rated lower!

[quote name='velvetkevorkian' post='841337' date='May 18 2010, 08:23 PM']Seems like third hand hearsay at the moment- I couldn't find any sign of it on the Warwick site.[/quote] Me neither...

I know the Corvettes are now made in Korea. Are we now talking about ALL the normal Warwicks?! Bad move Warwick.

[quote name='ajerthebadger' post='840540' date='May 18 2010, 09:29 AM']Hi, Looking for some advice on whats hot for £1000 these days? I have been looking at the New Fender American Deluxe series, looking pretty good to me, but obviously I need to go try it. Would like something thats traditional shape (Jazz/Musicman). I've currently got a Musicman Sterling USA (not the Sterling by Musicman Korean stuff) which I love but its time for an upgrade, another Sterling maybe but I'd like to know what else is out there for me to try. Any help/advice is much appreciated. Many thanks AJ[/quote] Hmm What tone are you after? Id personally say a Stingray, Precision or Jazz. There hasnt been a better time for quite some years to buy a new 08/10 American Series P or J....Fender have got it right. As long as you are careful and check them over in first day or so, you should get an awesome bass.

Tis a stunner! That shape is just brilliant. Im even liking Bongos now. I cannot wait for mine. BTW - rumour has it that my Classic Ray should be here within hours

[quote name='JTUK' post='840591' date='May 18 2010, 10:17 AM']I'd put a jazz pup at the rear, have a nice neck scanned to fit as per your favourite and then RW blocked (MoP) and bound with a nice tobacco sunburst and black plate.[/quote] +1, at least the RW Blocked/Bound neck. Sunburst and brown tort.... I wouldnt have anything fancy electronics wise, unless its very very subtle. A P bass is exactly what it should be; simple with great tone

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='840575' date='May 18 2010, 10:03 AM']Cheers Guys. I've actually got a set now but im in two minds about them. I put them on the Ray and felt they gave it a nice, deep thuddy tone. But at the gig we all hated them and i took them off and went back to my olsd XLs. Much nicer tone. Last weekend i put them back on again and they sounded much better at this gig, it must have been the venue i guess. Im not sure ill stick with them though. As ive said, i've used flats many time before, but these seem to be different. Maybe they are closer to how flats should sound but i do prefer a brighter tone, thats why ive stuck to Chromes in the past. I would like to try some Chromes on this bass as well at some point. I guess ill see how it goes.[/quote] I have noticed hearing Chromes that they are a mid ground between rounds and flats....a little more sparkle and grind compared to total flats. At first I HATED the idea of flats. Now I totally love em!

If its not covered over, personally Id be very wary. In fact I wouldnt. Im sure it must have a large tarpaulin covering you and your equip? We are playing a 'festival' wedding in Scotland in July...I have no idea what they have setup but we are obviously sorting this out well before we go.

[quote name='lemmywinks' post='840152' date='May 17 2010, 08:31 PM']Don't mean to complicate things further but you'll pick up a second hand Markbass amp for around £350 nowadays. Paired with a 2x12 you'd have a nice light, compact but very loud little rig. I use a LMII with a Schroeder 1212r and it's incredibly loud[/quote] You are of course right there. Basically, a Markbass LM2/3 would be PERFECT for your needs. Light, very powerful, warm and precise tone.

In fact, just googled that Warwick rig. If its all in good condition and fully working, (not doubting at all that it isnt) then its a massive bargain for a full setup. Personally, id get that setup....if I wanted a £700 full rig

This is a lot for the money. Ive not used Warwich gear, but that entire rig for £700 aint bad, (and you could always offer a little less )

Just how exactly do they make a 4x10 weight less than some 1x12s?! [url="http://www.gallien-krueger.com/products_mbe_series.html"]http://www.gallien-krueger.com/products_mbe_series.html[/url]