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Ay, tried the one in Newcastle a few times. Great colour etc, although for me I don't think the 35" scale is my cup of tea.

Sabre. Just to be different. Stingray next time.

I quite like it!

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1369766217' post='2092554'] Unfortunately , I think you will find that the exchange rate is working against you at the moment , Gareth . The overall rate is at about $1.50 to the pound at the moment , but you will struggle to get above 1.45 if you are actually trying to change your money and send it to Sadowsky . As a quick thumbnail calculation , that rate translates to ( very approximately ) £3450 - 3500 delivered to the U.K price for the most basic spec four string Sadowsky , with the price increasing incrementally as you add various options or if you want a five . string . If you want a few extras and / or a five string , an NYC Sadowsky is going to set you back about four grand at the moment . Does that tally with what you had been expecting an NYC bass to cost in the U.K ? [/quote] Roughly! That was what I was expecting...ish. I doubt I'd actually go about it that way...more than likely go over and try one out whilst on holiday then decide from there. The Metros are great quality, just extremely expensive nowadays.

I'd like to know if anyone has side by side tested the BF, Ampeg, and Berg NV610.

With the Metro's now being rather expensive, and out of sight for the market they were (IMO) aimed at, (eg a slightly more boutique and well built Fender but not NYC) I'd get an NYC made and sent direct to me, without a dealer. Metro prices now are extreme, but then again a lot of manufacturers are raising prices to rather crazy levels.

Both the VT and BDDI are fantastic. I have the VT version 2 and the BDDI, and I'll also be getting the VT Bass DI.

Oh no.

[color="#000000"]I think its relatively refreshing. When else do we have funk/house/pop like this dominating the radio/clubs/iTunes charts? It is great that so many people enjoy it.[/color] [color="#000000"]You have the bass nerds, Daft Punk fans, house fans, funk fans, Pharrell fans, hip hop/pop/rnb fans, and the clubbers.[/color] [color="#000000"]I’ve been out a lot over the past few weeks in Sheffield and Newcastle, and every bar / club is playing it, and it is a hit already. Probably one of those songs that will remind me of Summer 2013, (and the crap weather).[/color] [color="#000000"]Great feel good funky tune, with a super cool melody. Instantly catchy.[/color]

Nice, looks like you picked a great cab! Not only that, but the attention to detail on the Bergs, and the crossover, are exactly why they sell so well and sound great. How does it pair with the Streamliner?

I thought the S12 was supposed to cover 4x12 volume? If you want the traditional rock rig, get the Ampeg 8x10.

To me it gets to the point where you say 'how far do I go with this'. If its a mid bumped cab (which is what I tend to go for, eg the Aguilar DB series) or any tone profile suited for a bass guitar, then just enjoy the damn thing and play it if it sounds great. Everyone has recently become obsessed with a flat tone at 12 o'clock and a PA-like bass cab. To me, it doesn't matter. If it sounds great in the mix, I'm done...but it has to please me solo first. Who would put 'sh*t in'?! I certainly wouldn't. It's very hard to get a totally rubbish bass tone unless its player error or a bass with electrical issues.

I've played one! Nice quality, big tone, coil taps, 2 band EQ, very versatile. It was priced at £2k!!! They agreed they could match the usual £1.5 ish k, but I still think that's quite a lot for a Euro. I'd see if Bass Direct can get you a bolt on USA model...they have one in I think.

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1368789006' post='2081473'] He also said that their likely perception will be that the TH sounds 'louder' than the AG if they're used to a DB because of the frequencies at which it's working (if that makes sense - he explained it much better than this!). [/quote] I think its due to a mid voiced pre...which is something I personally really like.

[size=3][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]The whole amp design makes a huge different to how much slam the amp will have. Not just the power section, etc.[/font] [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]I've used and heard some Class D lightweight amps, (without a large traditional transformer) that sound absolutely huge and compete with the big tradtional amps.[/font] [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Voicing is critical. If the amp is fairly middy when flat, [color=#000000]like the Tonehammer 500, or the Thunderfunks, then the amp can seem much louder. Some of the lower wattage TF’s have a very tight bass/hi pass filter response (which I like) which means wattage isn’t wasted on huge low end. Genz incorporated the same tight response on the Shuttle amps, which I personally like.[/color][/font] [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][color=#000000]Also, any indication of volume cannot come from the actual knob positions. A Markbass amp usually hits top volume at about 12/1 o’clock.[/color][/font] [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][color=#000000]I’ve heard that the TH500 slams, and is very loud. If the treble went a little higher on it, I’d try one out, (although I already have the pedal so I can just use the power section on one of my amps).[/color][/font][/size]

The single is killing it in the clubs...love it.

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1368637417' post='2079592'] Did you post on the wrong thread? Not a single person has mentioned 'clinical tone', apart from you! [/quote] Uncoloured / flat - can come across clinical. I think without input from Jim Bergantino and/or Genz, this whole thread is rather unfair. I think we should put the 'complaint' about the Berg cabs into context.

PS - I've been deciding between the GB and Berg for a few weeks. Still not sure which to buy.

Surely it doesn't matter if its a little coloured, as long as its a good, well built cabinet with a nice tone. All this talk of clinical tone makes me think no one wants a personality!

[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1368521822' post='2077882'] Not heard about Fender winding up the brand, but you could ask Mansons [/quote] Apparently its due the end of 2013, along with (quite stupidly) Genz Benz. However, word on the street is that the Genz chaps will be working on new lightweight amps with Fender, (so basically re-branding the line).

Hi Graham I'd act fast as apparently they are going to be shut down soon.

[quote name='Gareth Hughes' timestamp='1368397232' post='2076680'] This sums up my set-up to a T!!!! It's a cruel irony that I love all of these elements but they just won't play nice with each other. [/quote] Ay, its something I never thought would even exist until I came on here more regularly and discussed it with KJung on Talkbass. It's quite mad that you have to pair up the right amp/cab, but I guess that's why I often buy the matching cabs with an amp...if they are something I like. J basses are sometimes a real pain for me. I love the solo tone, and I can get the pups solo'd to work in a mix, but the traditional Jazz all on tone just disappears for me...hence I barely ever gig a J bass. I

I doubt I'd dare buy anything from them now, in case anything was to happen to them again. It's a very tough time for retail at the moment, but what is also bad for the economy in general is that events like this put people off buying, even with credit card protection. I've almost been in this situation twice, so I'm extremely cautious now.

I tend to struggle once you have a mid dip cab, a bass heavy amp, and a jazz bass! Mid dips all over the place. Sounds nice though.

[quote name='Toasted' timestamp='1368357663' post='2075994'] So are the CN and the HD in the same size box? [/quote] From the pics, it seems the CN 212 and AE 212 are different sizes...not sure on the HDs.