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Al Krow
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That's a really interesting observation. I was struggling with a similar point when I played with the FI live - just found it glitchy when first engaged and it let out a bit of an unseemly squeal which seems to be similar to what you are describing. Part of the reason for my sticking with the Boss SY 200 - the quality of the tracking / non glitchy fx is the trade-off I've taken for it not having the same quality of synth tones that the FI undoubtedly has. I think it's partly down to the SY-200 having polyphonic tracking which the FI doesn't. I was advised to change my playing style to suit the FI. My preference was to change the pedal - maybe that was me being lazy, but sadly I've too much else to try remember and get right when playing live.
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I suspect there's a reason they've not including an OC-10 sim. Probably the same reason that they've ceased production of their rather too accurate and much loved clone 😁
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That's really helpful thanks @mcnach! Must admit I'm a little underwhelmed by the Zoom B2-4, given it's price point, which is a shame being the Zoom fanboi I am. I may just hold off now to see if anything decent comes out of NAMM 2023, or if Yamaha/Line 6 finally get around to upgrading their 8 year old Helix offering.
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@Woodinblack - totally agree with where you're coming from. The compactness and plug and play ability of the Xvive U4s along with their price point were all key factors in us deciding on using them.
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Well I hope that's not further fuelling your feeling of being very middle class and having to look down on us plebs with our cheap gear? 😁 But more seriously if you're in a successful covers band making £'000s annually from gigging, then it makes complete sense to be getting the best quality kit that you and the band can afford, whether it be KS12.2s or quality wireless to enable you to deliver a great sound for your audiences. Although Russ has previously commented that we're often paying quite a premium for Shure kit over sometimes equally good / better alternatives e.g. Shure SE425s vs KZ ZS10 Pros. I don't know if that point would extend to something like the PSM300 wireless currently retailing for £730+? I guess the other point is it's nice to have the option of something more budget, like the Xvive U4 which together with a KZ ZS10 Pro have together come in at around £200 / head all in, for those of us wanting to dip our toes into IEMs and wireless for the first time and see if "conceptually" it's a runner. Very much looking like it is for my covers band, I'm really happy to say.
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@mcnach Be really interested to get your warts and all thoughts on how your GP 200 handles pitch shift to enable us to easily change key on covers material? One test for me of how good a multi is, is how well it handles this as it's not one that the Zoom B1-4 is brilliant at - and not as good as Helix Stomp on this one.
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Haha I've been through 2 and now on my 3rd. Not too outrageous over 10 years? 😁 Take the point about reducing the aux send output - that's helpful. I can boost it at the receiver end to compensate.
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Yes, the Zoom B1-4 does do a decent synth which I've used live. I'm almost not surprised to hear you say it does synth better than the Core and Stomp.
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Thanks chaps. I'm using a pair of KZ ZS10Pro which should be perfectly fine, so more likely to be something in the signal chain - so I guess easiest solution is to cut the pre EQ gain and boost the fader volume to compensate.
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On the subject of Xvives - used mine for the first time at a gig a week back. Generally good: excellent at individual sound check, but with the full band I felt that the bass was clipping / distorting through the IEMs. Bandmate suggested it was because both me and the singer had a wireless set-up (her's were not Xvive U4 but the more upmarket / bulkier LD MEI G2) and that, in general, wireless was less good at dealing with the top end treble / lowest end bass frequencies but that the treble would win over the bass. Does what he said make sense and is it something I'm just going to need to suck up?
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Just seen that there's a baby brother to the GP-200 the GP-200 LT. It shares the same basic capability of the GP 200 but loses the expression pedal and half the stomp buttons to give it a more compact form factor which would be pedal board friendly if you wanted to combine it with other dedicated pedals e.g. a synth. @jimfist you were asking about the Nux MG-30 on the Zoom B2-4 thread as an alternative to the latter; I think this Valeton could give the Nux a very good run for its money and (sadly being the Zoom-fanboi that I am) is a more appealing multifx to me than the B2-4 to me. I'm impressed that it has a bit crush / ring mod sim on it, that's not a common feature on the more budget multis in my experience! It's double the screen size + drum machine + aux in + 3 more effects blocks + for half the price of the Stomp, but without parallel path options which the Stomp has... I think I'm starting to put myself in harm's way of getting one of these!
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I think the fx patches are going to be identical to those on the cheaper models, and many will have no need for 6 flavours of DI out as they can go directly into the HiZ input on their desks. I do love the Z synth on the Zoom multis though! Puts many other more expensive multis to shame. And there are a ton of usable features and fx on even the cheapest Zoom multis. But if I'm forking out a lot more than I paid for my B1-4, I'd probably want to be getting parallel path routing for fx, and I think the entry point for that is something like the Helix Stomp. @JohnDaBass are you hearing a noticeable step up in sound quality between your B1-4s and your B6?
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Compact budget PA set-up to put bass through (without back-line).
Al Krow replied to Al Krow's topic in PA set up and use
We've been trying to work out what they're doing differently - they're both (highly) trained and very experienced vocalists and it's not down to mic technique or awareness of speaker position. We've boiled it down to one having more powerful vocals which allows us to have a lower gain on the desk. -
Compact budget PA set-up to put bass through (without back-line).
Al Krow replied to Al Krow's topic in PA set up and use
Hi Phil - thanks very much for that. So your point about compressors is only in relation to vocal or drum mics picking up sound on stage rather than e.g. a bass pedal board compressor, correct? How does DI'ing help with eliminating the impact of a compressor on a desk? Be delighted if you started an audio feedback thread! Not least as both our singers have similar Sennheiser wireless mics but one of them is able to wander into the audience in front of the FOH speakers without getting feedback, whereas the other much more often does get feedback issues. Having PA speakers with more headroom and being able to turn the gain down at the desk does seem to help, as the singer with the more powerful vocals manages to avoid feedback with most PA set-ups including our 310As, whereas the second has less feedback when using with the higher rated 912As. I'll take a read of that soundonsound article you've kindly linked. -
+1^^ Look forward to hearing your thoughts on it @MarshallBTB. Not currently seeing enough of a benefit on this to switch up to this from my existing (and regularly available for £50 used) Zoom B1-4 which I'm still loving and using as a standalone pedal board & tuner for gigs, instead of paying a bit more and getting something like a Helix PodGo.
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Dammit - if only you'd had this up for sale 6 weeks back before I got myself a new one! 😁 -
Zoom Livetrack L8 mixing desk. Had new from end of Nov last year (so a little over 3 months old) gigged once, but otherwise very limited home use - so in "nearly new" condition.
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Compact budget PA set-up to put bass through (without back-line).
Al Krow replied to Al Krow's topic in PA set up and use
Bass is very clear in the mix on that one Paul, and particularly so as it's been recorded via an iPad internal mic rather than a dedicated recording mic. You'd mentioned you'd not got the bass set particularly high at the gig I went along to (my post above). -
Compact budget PA set-up to put bass through (without back-line).
Al Krow replied to Al Krow's topic in PA set up and use
I at least ended up with a Soundcraft Sig 12 desk in the end, even if we didn't go for the Evox 8 - was probably sub-consciously influenced by your set up, haha! But agreed you'd probably find the Sig 10 model more than sufficient for your 3 piece. -
Compact budget PA set-up to put bass through (without back-line).
Al Krow replied to Al Krow's topic in PA set up and use
@Paul S hope you don't mind me sharing this once more - couple of Evox 8 in action in a live and decently loud(!) rock set up. -
Compact budget PA set-up to put bass through (without back-line).
Al Krow replied to Al Krow's topic in PA set up and use
Phil - that's a different angle on the use of compressors than I've previously heard articulated. Be interested if you could you elaborate for us please - was your point just in relation to vocals or also for other instruments including bass? -
Compact budget PA set-up to put bass through (without back-line).
Al Krow replied to Al Krow's topic in PA set up and use
Because it means: (i) she has a PA available for her solo work (she will be keeping / storing the 732As); (ii) we have a spare rig when one of us unavailable; (iii) I don't have to lug a PA to every gig ie transportation load will be shared with the other main user of the PA, now that I'm using it as my bass rig. It's something we discussed and agreed a while back, and she's now sold her solo-work PA (which wasn't suitable for a full band) in anticipation. Don't worry, I won't be on to the "next thing" in any particular rush. I mean I was content with RCF 310As for the band for the best part of a decade...😄 -
Compact budget PA set-up to put bass through (without back-line).
Al Krow replied to Al Krow's topic in PA set up and use
When you say a problem with vocals was that with your Altos? I mean, I've not quite pushed the button, still shopping around for a decent price as I'm now waaaay over the budget I agreed with our singer, haha! But I'm guessing Russ would probably recommend me getting the 732As anyway given the 3" horns.
