Al Krow

Yet. 😁

It's out! £665 at Andertons and Gear4Music But already just £581 at Juno...

👍 Gotcha

...oh dear I've just seen that the Mooer GE 300 is out. I'm already distracted

A bigger discount than Future Impact pedals are going for. At the end of the day, it's supply and demand.

Unless, of course, the original owner didn't fork out £79 for Helix Native so it should be still available to the next guy? Let's face it, how many of us have / will get both Stomp plus Native? Seems a bit pointless to me. If you've got a Stomp and the free HX Edit then the two together do everything that Native does.

You would have thought that the intention was for the discount only being one Helix Native per Stomp (and on a first come first served basis), rather than one circulating Stomp enabling the entire guitar and bass playing community to get a discount on Helix Native?

... and the trouble is they are great basses, so I totally get why you're after one and why folk are holding onto theirs!

Wow, congrats Dave!! 8 days to go from a BB425 to a BB P34. Took some of us a couple of years to make a similar journey! 😀

This thing is tiny !!!! Handles 600W at 4 ohms through 2x10" plus 1x5" to provide added mid punch. Omni directional sound - which I guess will work well as both stage monitor and audience cab, but query whether you're going to end up with 'wasted' sound watts? Frequency Response: 40 Hz - 16 kHz Designed for acoustic and electric instruments including bass, guitar and keyboards It weighs, wait for it... ...just 15 lbs Oh, and did I mention it's tiny? It's just 12" high and 11" wide. Competition for my BF SC? Very possibly.

A feeling that my Ibanez fives are starting to share 😂

Haha - there you go. Clearly multiple ways to skin a cat. And no right answer to which end you should crack open an egg. I'm much happier with the software editor, others prefer the pedal interface. Whatever works, eh? 😄

Also now fixed 😁

That is high praise indeed! I've often thought that the Black Tiger has visual resemblances to an Alembic, albeit with a longer top horn which also works well and gives it its own 'look'. Perhaps much more importantly, from what I've heard from posted clips, is a very different sound to the Alembic which brings one of the most sophisticated set of electronics to the party, and these days a price tag to match!

Fixed 😀

Yeh - they are pretty stunning. Quite a few in the FS right now - in fact it was spotting them there for the first time earlier in the year that made me first start to notice them and when you start doing that you know that it's not going to end well (or cheaply when it comes to Smiths). Did you get to play one last time you were at BD? I suspect @ped will be along soon to point out that the Smith has it's own signature sound which is relatively unique. Which is why if you've gotta a Wal, you've got no excuse for not having a great cab...now that's a whole 'nother topic!

Oh I agree! You'd be surprised how many Stomp / Helix LT / Helix Full Fat owners haven't ventured into HX Edit. Why do you think there is a regular stream of Helix's in the FS? And I've got other software progs to download yet (Source Audio, Future Impact). You gotta remember that not all bassists' primary goal in life is to be spending vasts quantities of their lives computer editing; and that's a big attraction of dedicated analogue pedals, right? Workflow

HX Edit Probably been mentioned already several times before, but my understanding is that HX Edit + Stomp = HX Native i.e. HX Edit isn't some cut down version of HX Native in terms of what it allows you to do. Other than, of course, HX Native doesn't require the pedal hardware to generate sound! HX Edit is completely free to download. And it's going to make the Stomp a lot more accessible (for me anyway!) and a lot more fun. Just like ToneLib with a Zoom B1X-4 or MS-60B. Game on

Indeed, but if I sell my Stomp I presume that will be because I don't want to use it any more, or because something better has come along? 😉

Or I could just use the (free?) Helix HX editor and not pay a penny more?

I'm perhaps a bit weird in having my premier rig set up in my home studio - it's where I get to hear all the nuances of bass tone that we BC'ers eternally pursue. Playing live with a full rock band and ear plugs, nuances of bass tone for me (and everyone else!) are just lost! I've discovered that the Zoom B1X-4 multifx has an underlying 'digital noise' when notes are played. Something completely unnoticeable in a live situation, so that little pedal is working just fine for live use for me, right now. But now I've picked up on this digital noise (ped's fault!) and having a Berg CN212 cab that has greater articulation and clarity than anything I've had before, means I find his noise a distraction for home studio use. A bit long winded (apologies) but that's why the Stomp has made a return to my home board!

Haha sure. But may not get the Mooer GE 300 until late 2019 (would make for a nice b/day pressie), and possibly never at all if it proves to pants for bass!

OC-10, OC2, OCD - I can see this could get confusing! 😂