Al Krow

Out of interest, Steve are you also a Stagg EUB player?

Vaccine roll out really is progressing a pace, which is very encouraging and credit where it's due for that. I'm sticking with May for pub gigs to start up again. Can't wait!

I am tempted by their reverse PJ 5er 35" scale which is currently on sale at GAK for a tidy discount. Trouble is I know just how good my Yammy BB 1025 is and the fact it's seen off 4 other PJ 5ers over the past 2 years... Certainly won't be any worse than a Warwick Thumb I've got my eye on for neck dive!

PS ETIAS looks like an excellent regime going forward. Well done the EU for coming up with that improved approach. Besides, it makes complete economic sense to me to be encouraging touring musicians in that way - I would have thought that the vast bulk of the economic benefit from touring musicians is to the local economies anyway (unless you're a mega star charging a $multi million tour fee).

@skankdelvar bravo - what an excellent piece of research and very helpful indeed! I thought Woody had nearly cracked the issue earlier with his look into the EU visa regime. But it seems to me you've provided a clear route map for EU touring musicians to look into.

Len is right. Let's keep on topic. Goodness knows the public mud slinging is one the mods have repeatedly asked us not to engage in, and I'm going to try harder to heed their requests although it's tricky when too often it's only side of the debate playing ball! But I'm really happy to have a polite, private discussion on pro / cons of Brexit with a fellow BCer if you're really interested? PM me if you want to do that and I'll set up a private thread and we can add any others in if they want to join.

Andy that's a very wise approach. I suspect folk mostly comment on topics for interest /or for a bit of fun. I totally agree there is no need to worry about pretty much ANY bass related topic, unless you're a pro bass player who is rightly worried about when gigs will start up again!

EQ is obviously a key part of any set up and finding sonic "space" as you say, Oli. No keys in our band, although @dave_bass5has turned with gusto to the dark side recently... However, I think this particular issue has a lot to do with pup placement and the additional harmonic richness that is found closer to the bridge, which is where the J pup on my PJ is to be found. The low B string (B, C, D Eb) fundamentals are not in an EQ range that you typically associate with wanting to boost for cutting through - that is more usually the mid range. So we are then back to the harmonics. Just my tuppence worth.

Ah so a Barefaced Super Compact (with a DG M900 head) is the real culprit here? Good, glad we've got that sorted now then 😂 Yup, I am indeed talking about P vs J on the low B as the main theme of this thread. But obviously anything with "B" in it is going to be controversial on BC...

Come on - not even close to the worst. How about this one?

Couldn't agree more - it is just experiences shared in common by several BC'ers, some of whom are really outstanding bass players. Just to go back to my OP, when I switched from P to J pup mid set for a song with a lot of low B work with exactly the same EQ settings, our drummer, who has a really excellent ear, did a double take and said "whatever you just did - keep doing!" He could hear me cutting through the mix with that one change. The P and J pups were set up just fine for the rest of the set on songs with less focus on the low end. As I hope I've made clear, plenty of folk won't have experienced this issue on their set ups. It's just a little 'gem' that may come in useful to some of our fellow musos along the way.

More seriously - looking back over the thread, it does seem like the point of view expressed by Andruca is one shared by some seriously competent bass players (so I wouldn't be quite so quick to be so dismissive @CameronJ) and, amusingly, one of them happens to have a Sadowsky PJ5 and hasn't merely looked at their website. Defo worth keeping an open mind to other folks' experiences - won't always be relevant but could be a little hidden gem in there from time to time. Just sayin' 😉

For sure, it's a marvellous bass - in fact one of the very best! Not a PJ though.

Now there's a chap who's managed to Roger it up, 'bless 'im! Seems to be getting his W'ick completely confused with his Metro.

They do a four string version of course, Lozz.

Plus £ has gone up, highest it's been for a while at $1.35, was at $1.20 in Aug 2019 when these came out.

Just Jan sales. I've seen a couple of Sandberg Panthers on for £1.5k and not the usual £2.2k - nothing to do with quality, just stuff not shifting with what's going on. I picked up my Spector in some Anderton sales in 2019 and was lucky to get for a great price.

Now just £575 at GAK. Defo not so crap at that price. And as you say, the rest of it looks very good on paper.

At the end of the day I'd love a Spector with a reverse PJ set up on 5 string (EMGs plus 35" scale) but they can't be arsed to bring one out, so this is a poor man's alternative and entirely appropriate therefore it has a rough 'red neck' 😁

Yeah but possibly something that can be easily sorted with a bit of extremely fine sandpaper? You're much more expert on that sort of thing than me.

Reverse PJ EMGs, 3 band EQ and 35" scale are all pretty promising. Unless of course that's 5" too big for you.

Tell me more about the crappy neck?

Cheers Andy, you've reminded me I need to be getting me one of these! 😉

Was just looking up an old thread on this bass... ...came across your post from a while back and thought what you were saying completely tied in with what I was hearing as set out in the OP! Appreciate it's not everyone's experience but it's certainly both of ours - so I thought I'd post it on here so that it's not lost.