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Sorry NJ, I did wait nearly a week for this reason. I can't keep everyone happy 😉

Yes! Nigel Olssen! Forgot about him too! I have to admit I just had to Google Dave Mattacks, so maybe these lists are doing their job!

I'm also fairly sure that in the first episode, when they used a clip of James Brown in his Bootsy period and very artistically split the screen/graphics to show/name Jabo and Clyde, it wasn't actually Clyde in the clip. It's been bugging me that, I'm sure the internet would provide the answer...

Good point. I think I heard someone briefly say his name but surprised he wasn't more prominent.

Did anyone else watch the whole 4 episodes? In the last one, they did a list of the "Top 20 Drummer's Drummers" - basically the top ones mentioned by the contributors. They are below. Discuss! Note before you get angry, even the program (Steve White) said it wasn't the definitive list, it was just theirs, so don't take it too seriously. No surprises with most choices, but I just thought it would be good to hear people's thoughts. Like they said, if it inspires someone to go check someone out, it's worth it. 1. Buddy Rich 2. John Bonham 3. Hal Blaine 4. Ringo Starr 5. Gene Krupa 6. Dave Grohl 7. Louie Bellson 8. Bill Ward 9. Billy Cobham 10. Ian Paice 11. Neil Peart 12. Earl Palmer 13. Ginger Baker 14. Steve Gadd 15. Cindy Blackman 16. Dave Daddy Kane (didn't get mentioned in all 4 episodes until the list) 17. Carlton Barrett 18. Jeff Pocaro 19. Clyde Stubblefield 20. Keith Moon Personally, and I am by no means an expert nor right, I was surprised they had Jeff Pocaro and not Bernard Purdie, as he just went further with BP's idea? Also, with Cindy Blackman, it felt like they had put her in because they felt they had to include a female? I admit she is good (and most likely much better than I ever was), but top 20 ever? Some of my personal idols that didn't make the series (not necessarily the list) were Mitch Mitchell (surprisingly barely mentioned at all) the Motown drummers, Al Jackson Jr (Stax), Greg Errico and UK drummer Pete Ray Biggin. I did love hearing Jabo Starks humbly praising Clyde Stubblefield as though he was nothing in comparison! I also have renewed love for Ian Paice, both his drumming and his personality after watching this series. ...and no doubt the most inflammatory bit for some - I totally agree with Ringo's inclusion - he was a massive influence on me.

I'm sorry, but I can't help but think this is some sort of penis extension bragging thing...and I say that as a former drummer myself. It also reminds me of the percussionist at the concert band I play with. There is a separate guy who plays drum kit, but he will show up half an hour early to wheel out glockenspiels, xylophones, gongs, tubular bells, timpani, congas etc etc, just to end up playing "ping" on a triangle on one piece before having to put it all away again. He's a lovely bloke and has a lot more patience than me....

I used to work with Bobby G's version on the holiday camp circuit about 15 years ago. It was quite a litigious mess. If I remember correctly, Mike Nolan and David Van Day (Dollar) had joined forces and were doing hits from both, but when Mike quit, DVD kept plugging away calling himself Bucks Fizz, or something like that. However, I think all the legal stuff has forced a wedge/hatred between Bobby and the rest of the original members. Shame, I used to think Bob was a lovely bloke when I knew him. His missus used to bring us cakes!

Just a thought, but perhaps Ric put them at an angle for a reason, such as they've found that the tone improves if the E string end is further back and the G string end is further forward? Not sure if a few mm angle would make much difference, but the two examples on this thread seem to be wonky in the same way?

Another massive fan here. Jamiroquai were never the same after he left, in my humble opinion, no disrespect intended to the later bass players.

Might be an accent thing - perhaps Yorkshire? I notice a lot of my old school mates from the North East typing Facebook statuses in phonetic Geordie, but with the added complication of zero punctuation or grammar. Takes me a while to work it oot mesel....

Hmm, I certainly am not a fan nor would I make an offer, but I don't understand some people's need to put comments like that on someone's listing...?

As a former drummer myself, I have been enjoying the series so far. Interesting choice of guests too. Was it just me or did the guy with 6 pedals struggle to keep the time constant and start to slow once he started playing everything? I'm sure he's an amazingly gifted technician, but that is what it sounded like to me. In the first episode, it was odd they glossed over Motown and Al Jackson at Stax by just playing the types of feel without naming actual the drummers, but loved watching Jabo playing Clyde's funk - RIP to both of them. Lets see what the last two episodes bring....

I'm sure Dave (obbm's) offer will be great, and I haven't looked if you still can, but you used to be able to buy new parts including the removable lead from Canford Audio. You could buy all the bits to make a new pair! I bought several sets of new drivers for mine over the years when I was in the industry. (I'm sure other suppliers are available too).

Wasn't Jools Holland, was it?

I had to quit my main gigging band last year because of ill health. I just couldn't do it any more. I'm only glad that my employer has been very understanding in letting me work from home, and that I didn't have to rely on gigging for my main income.

A year ago, I would have said I have two gigging basses: Sire V7 5 string NS Design NXT5 I then have the following around the house: Squier P5 with Wizard J pups - Sire's predecessor - now on permanent loan to a mate's son Squier P5 with EMG P6/J set Squier JV Jazz - my first proper bass and will never (hopefully have to) sell Harley Benton 5 string Acoustic Cheapo G4M double bass Unfortunately, due to sickness, none of them are currently gigging basses 😢 Oh, and I'm a technology manager who always dreamed of going pro but never had the balls or talent to do it full time....

It looks like he's only selling the two cabs with the TV in though - so you'd have to faff around and try and win the rest too. I think the bit with the TV would look odd on its own without the rest.

Beauty. If you've sold your soul, does that also mean you've gained the ability to play it at virtuoso level, and you're beating the ladies off with a soiled stick? Two reasons I know I haven't managed to sell mine yet...

I could of course be very wrong, but I think a lot of modern theatre/music scores are specified as written with a 5 string in mind. I seem to remember being involved in a cabaret show as a sound guy and the bassist told me he'd had to get a 5 string because the score demanded it - lots of low Ds and Cs etc. I'm assuming some 4 string bassists would jump up the octave or use drop tuning - I guess it would depend on how lenient the MD/director was.

Sounds to me like someone who is desperate to join an Alt-Rock band, but has not seen many such ads, so is pushing you to see if you'll bend to his way of thinking. I can't imagine there are hundreds of Alt-Rock bands in his area waiting for a guitarist to climb on the tour bus?

I was just too young for most of OGWT, but having been bought the DVD box set, it is apparent to me that a lot of bands mimed on OGWT too. Perhaps the singer sang live, but the rest of the band mimed in a lot of cases?

I agree to the profanity filter to make the forum more inclusive to budding impressionable teenagers, but I also doff my cap in admiration to whomever edits the filter. The one that replaces the current hot topic involving cold air precipitation when describing someone who has less hardened views than you always makes me laugh. I think that was Dad....

Just a thought from me - when this started, were you taking meds for anything else? I myself have had to quit my bands due to illness in the last year and have been on a myriad of painkillers and anti-inflammatories. I have found that whenever I take Naproxen for a length of time (a stronger Ibuprofen type drug) I get really sore ankles and wrists, and I was tested for arthritis til I twigged what it was. I just wonder if it could be a reaction to another drug? Long shot, but worth a thought....? Good luck with getting yourself sorted.

I was bought that timber kit as a present. When I read the instructions, they seemed to be saying there was a lot of fettling involved with sanding and glueing to get it all to fit together. Mine is still in the box...

I got a pedal made up to my spec by BrightOnion for this very task, but as HJ said, it had no gain controls, so balancing the two was a pain. At the time I went for a Radial Tonebone Bassbone V2 which was a couple of hundred notes, but worth it for me - I don't think the model HJ has was available then, or I missed it!