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20-year old cheap bow - rehair or replace?
NickA replied to Beer of the Bass's topic in EUB and Double Bass
Not heard of "chestnut" ..tho I guess it's quite a common horse colour. I've black on my best ( arcus Carbon ) bow and white on my spare (wooden dorfler) Not a deal of difference, but new hair and good rosin are useful...and when bowing spiros you need all the grip you can get. Amusing fact... Stallion hair is apparently grippier than mare hair as the mares piss on their tales which polishes out the grip. -
The issue with long leads and wet ground is that your body is at one voltage (that of the ground you are standing on) and the earth of your kit is at another voltage (either an earth spike in the place the power comes from or more likely via the neutral wire to a local substation many meters of cable away). The resistance between those two earth points is likely quite high so the current that flows through you is too small to trip an RCD .... BUT you will still feel it. My house is very poorly grounded and you can easily get a tingle if using power tools in the garden in bare feet (!!) or off the stainless toaster or microwavestanding on the damp kitchen floor. TBH there isn't a lot you can do. Using one of these portable battery generators (eg a Jackery Power Station) is one way to get around it. Another way is to use an isolation transformer and an earth spike near where you are standing (getting a bit techie at this point). In any case if an extension lead is the only option, do use an RCD - you may still get a tingle but it would trip before you got electrocuted. Try not to play in bare feet on wet grass 🙂 (PS: I'm an electrical engineer, I'm not making it up)
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20-year old cheap bow - rehair or replace?
NickA replied to Beer of the Bass's topic in EUB and Double Bass
if you're happy with it get it rehaired. It's 10s of pounds not 100s. they'll replace the wooden wedges and who gives a monkeys that the tip is super glued on. still if you fancy an upgrade, nows an opportunity, but you won't get much improvement for under £200. -
Good left hand technique from a teacher or ploughing through Simandl, (possibly the world's most boring book) is useful..helps you find the notes, stay in tune and play what you're thinking not what your hand will let you. But you can't learn everything from classical or (even) jazz musicians. Nb: using "the evil 3rd finger" is de rigeur above the neck joint, as is using your thumb. Rabath is all about whether you can move your hand without moving your thumb ( Simandl says don't), it doesn't involve using your ring finger below the neck joint... does it? Most people's hands are just too small to reach a semi tone with every finger. Rabath is useful for some things and worth adopting at times at least .eg the bass line of boogie stop shuffle which is easy on a 34" scale electric but a workout on a 46" scale dB ( unless you have massive hands)! Pivots make it easy again. Sorry thread drift.
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Anyone teach slapping? Right hand technique ( decent pizz, let alone slap) is a mystery to most classically oriented bass teachers. Being a classical and mainstream jazzer ..It's not something I'd ever wanted to do ( tho I admire the skill of some people who do it) but was in a big band playing Mingus' music this year and the parts were sometimes marked "slapped". Well I tried but with highish tension strings it didn't work well. Back in the day there were no amps, strings were gut and most of the players had to slap to be heard ... by the late 50s it was applied ironically or nostalgically, but those guys could do it. Dying art?
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Only 2 of my electric basses ( and an acoustic bass and a viola da gamba) have those. I find they make things more difficult tbh. We are!!! Don't go!!!
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I play electric bass one finger one fret as I can reach..though 1 2 4 would be more comfortable in lower positions. I play the double bass 124 with some back and forth extensions. Really, they are quite different instruments with different techniques. The only thing in common is the tuning of the strings. Technique does matter if you want to expand what you play. Lack of technique or a personally derived technique will likely limit you. It sounds tedious and snobby, I know, and there's a lass in my town who plays in "Americana" bands by just clamping her whole hand around the neck at a root note..then up a string for a 4th, down a string for a 5th.works ok .but she's kind of stuck playing only that style. Nb: that very nice " realist sound clip " pickup whilst excellent for jazz and for classical players wanting occasional amplification....probably not what you want for rockabilly. Stick it up for sale and put proceeds towards that shadow system probably.
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Great strings. Awful! Actually they sound ok, bit brassy but solid fundamentals. They just take ages to start sounding, the bow kind of skates over them. You can bow them if you have to but they're not really intended for it.
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That pickup is £300+ worth. Go for it, but factor in a new bridge and probably a decent set of strings down the line ( another £250 ) It won't get you in the LSO but decent to learn on. Nb: my own bass (£10k worth of antique German timber) has a fingerboard bevel. You don't need it but it's pretty harmless and I've never needed to get it altered - they were for bowing with floppy gut strings.
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Probably as useful and the amp will appreciate it 🙂
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Cost of living crisis perhaps? Fashion at at time when many prefer a factory fender to a boutique beauty? That it's in Germany meaning the Brexit idiocy that you should pay 20% VAT on import... which makes it rather expensive at £4680? (My own dolphin, imported from Portugal pre Brexit, was £1800 ... though admittedly only a 4-string). Still, someone in in the EU should snap it up as they are truly beautiful basses that do everything from an amazing clear "piano like" sound to something like a gnarly Thumb. Slap rather well too.
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Portable Appliance Test. Hence PAT test is, like PIN number, a misnomer. but everyone says it. Checks electrical equipment that's connected to mains to ensure no-one will get a belt off it ...in theory. The test...Checks the plug earth pin is connected to any exposed metalwork and checks there is no leakage from live or neutral to ground. Venues and health and safety oiks think it makes electrical kit safe to use and that it's lethal otherwise. I have a PAT machine and a roll of stickers and a log book of stuff tested. Easily done, I'm m not convinced it's worth the fuss but easier to do it than convince a health a safety oik that it's a waste of time.
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A Shout out for bassbags simply as they are local and have always been helpful for me ..and also my local emergency luthiers.. and they do get a discount and do pass some of it on. For a set of Eva's, I didn't find anywhere cheaper. But Amazon and eBay do indeed throw up all kinds of occasional bargains. Big question is...do you really need guts, and all their expense and inconveniences, when synthetics are so very good these days. Personally I like steel wound steel rope core strings best for pizz ..but the rest of my orchestra would rather I didn't 😂.
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Not sure I've ever seen such abysmal repair work. Having recently had far less serious renovation done on an old cello and a new neck on my bass ..you're probably talking £5000 or more to bring it up to scratch, more still to fix the cosmetics. Taking the front off is major and expensive work..... and is that a crack in the heel of the neck? Might be possible to pin it, might need a new neck.. and that's £4k or so straight away. But, nice wood and a pretty shape. I'm guessing German factory bass late 1800s, fully done up it "could" be worth £10k in a sales room ( IE you won't sell it for that, but a dealer might), but maybe only half that.
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Yes, they are made of unicorn intestines, hand wound by Bavarian nuns, high in the alps. I think they were originally aimed at pro level classical soloists playing basses that cost £50k+ . A louder and more projecting sound than eudoxas. Not sure about pro double bass players these days, but cellists seem to have given up on them and switched to steel and tungsten ( Larsen and thomastik) which are cheaper, stay in tune and last forever... and sound very good. Even pirastro recommend using Eva Ps for the A and E rather than olives across the board.
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😂😂😂. Personally I dislike playing through a pa only as I want the sound of my bass to be near me and come from close to where the bass is. When PA is a must I still use my little pjb combo and di out of that. Realist pickup, rarely have feedback issues....then again pub &club not stadium volumes.
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Groundbreaking that was. Up to then Synth players had been using guitar amps ... now all my keyboardy friends use ...guitar amps.
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True, a local player who subs for my orchestra has a 5 string one. Huge fat round bottom end 🙂 phwoar. A sound I really like. A lot of fine "classical" oriented basses sound to me like big cellos, which doesn't float my boat. However the T&G may not work so well for jazz. I'd ask for a try, but pretty sure it has those "bowing only" strings on.
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Mahler and Elgar (amongst others) didn't seem to know the normal range of a double bass 😂. I doubt extensions existed back then either. I've had to retune to DADG or CGDG on occasion ..a friend has a BEADG 5 string which is the best way to go. Extensions are awkward and ugly imo. No fan of Mahler anyway. But T&G Martin make some lovely basses ..if yr loaded enough.
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Made by political prisoners in China perhaps?
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Deliberately "punchy" according to David Gage. Whereas I'm using a realist sound clip, which you move around the bridge, pad with cycle inner tube and mess with counterweights till it sounds right.
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Rarely touch the eq on my pjb rig. Maybe tweak the bass for room acoustics. My old trace certainly needed a big smile on it tho. Guess the trace was designed to sound impressive and the pjb to be flat response.
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Really? Interesting. My cobra was black and white. Had to upgrade to a gp12smx to get the green glow.
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Avoid cheap fibre glass or "composite" bows, basic wood bows ok, carbon bows around £1k probably beat wooden bows at the same price point. The very very best bows are probably wood, but you're talking £3k+. There's a Hobgoblin in Edinburgh that have a few bass bows, but it does seem a bit of a bass desert. Caswells or Bowspeed will send you a box of bows to try out. Tell them your budget and they'll work out a selection for you. Go 4/4 bow length unless you have very short arms. Bow length unrelated to bass length and you can always use more length.. " I always think playing with a bow is like making love to a beautiful woman; first you get out your stick, admire the wood and give it a gentle polish .........etc etc" 😂 Can't speak for teachers, I only ever had two bass lessons, but was taught the cello at an early age ... which helped
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Carlsbro in trace clothing. Always sounds better with a green front panel 🙂