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[quote name='eude' timestamp='1349942319' post='1832403'] Excellent, really excited to see what these are like... Eude [/quote] I got a Mi12 today. Initial impressions are great. Really good sound-the horn isn't harsh like some-and it gives a really full range sound. I've not used 12" speakers before,but at the moment I really like it. I've got 3 gigs this weekend,so it will get a thorough testing. It works really well with the MiBass 550...I've not tried it with the Little Bastard yet.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1349958901' post='1832701'] I wonder how much of this 'undercutting' is real world experience, or whether it's just percieved. Whenever I've done pub gigs we have been offered a 'going rate'. The landlord usually just says we usually pay £250 or whatever. It's then down to you if you accept it or not. [/quote] When I was regularly playing pub gigs,I knew of at least one band who happily admitted that they would offer to do the gigs for £100-150 when most were going out for around £200-250.

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1349855942' post='1831244'] Think of it as an "as live" rehearsal where you don't have to pay for the rehearsal room. [/quote] I've never liked this attitude. Once you hit the stage you should be performing,not rehearsing.If you are treating a gig as a rehearsal (I often hear the phrase 'paid rehearsal') then you shouldn't be on the gig,because you have completely the wrong attitude towards the gig. Since when should new bands play for little or nothing just to get out there? I've never done this,ever. Like I said in the 'playing for free' thread,I once booked my old bands first gigs and got over a grand for 2 nights (plus accommodation).

[quote name='alstocko' timestamp='1349804387' post='1830784'] Pure improviser, Miles made me that way. Licks make me feel like I'm living in the past, I want to be individual [/quote] [quote name='lobematt' timestamp='1349872797' post='1831559'] I'm pretty sure Miles used licks too. From transcribing his solos I've seen a few crop up that are pretty much identical. [/quote] If you analyse or transcribe a number of solos from anyone,you will notice that they all use certain lines and phrases that are comfortable for them or that they can use of certain changes.Even 'groove' players have things that they regularly use.It doesn't matter if it's Miles,Jaco,Brecker,Metheny or anyone.These lines,or licks,are part of the players identity and they all use them even if they claim to improvise all the time. The problems come when other players learn these licks and spew them out endlessly.It's cool to add them to your vocabulary, and you should-take them and make them your own and let them be there for when they feel right.

[quote name='eude' timestamp='1349871158' post='1831519'] Well?.... [/quote] I was told last week that the Mi Cabs are expected for delivery in the next few weeks,so I'm guessing that he's not got the full rig yet.

[quote name='Ashwood1985' timestamp='1349865875' post='1831422'] "the sympathetic resonance of harmonically related strings may be desired for some songs, such as ballads. In these cases, a bassist can fret harmonically related notes. For example, while fretting a sustained "F" (on the third fret of the "D" string), underneath an F major chord being played by a piano player, a bassist might hold down the "C" and low "F" below this note so their harmonics sound sympathetically." [/quote] Really? I've literally never heard of anyone knowingly doing that. If you fret the notes mentioned,it doesn't matter if the fretted notes are ringing because it will just be an F 'power chord'. Also,bear in mind that the harmonic overtone series is not always positioned in the same place as the fretted notes so you may end up with a clash in the chord if you are trying to vibrate the harmonics. Personally,I think whoever wrote a wiki about that is just trying to sound too clever.

I love how the 'slap is boring' is always backed up by a 2 minute clip of a concert that lasted for,what?.....2 hours? That section was just a bit of fun/entertainment that the players enjoyed...and so did the audience on the night,judging by the reaction. Yeah,slap bass is boring and unmusical....but no more so than fingerstyle playing or pick playing.The technique in itself is not unmusical-that would be down to the player. As for boring-that is down to the listeners own taste.

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1349774759' post='1830228'] In the originals bands I've been in, generally we get paid anywhere from zero upwards, usually a measly £30 for the whole band (is this normal?) only ever get more if we get a cut of the door takings, or organise our own event. With the cover band, we did our first gig for free, our second for £50... And now we usually ask for a minimum of £200 (whether we get that or not varies, but our highest fee so far has been £245). We did do a charity event for free this year though, but they fed us [/quote] Picking up on a couple of points..... £30 for the whole band? I find that maybe more insulting than playing for nothing. If I know that the gig is worth no money then I can make my mind up if I want to do it or not based on other things,but if there is money involved then they can at least pay a reasonable amount.If I knew that that was all that the band would be paid,I wouldn't even think about it-it would be a 'no'. With regards to doing the first gig for free,again this is something that I wouldn't do. The last time I ran a band,our first gig was two nights in the same club for over a grand-this then became a regular gig for us. I then spent a week phoning venues and was getting gigs for a minimum of £400. The only time I struggled was with local venues who pulled faces even when we played for less,just so friends and family could come see us sometimes.Even when we packed the place they wouldn't up the money because other bands (many of whom we knew) would play for less. I've been out of that band for a while now,but I still get some phone calls from venues offering us gigs for decent money.

I've never sat down and learned licks per se. I've learned and transcribed tunes and solos,and invariably they contain licks which work their way into your vocabulary,but I've never learned just a lick by itself. Pretty much everyone plays licks,even guys who claim to improvise everything.Sure,they may not have taken a Marcus or a Brecker lick,but everyone has certain things that they play often that are their own lick.Some guys do it more obviously than others though.

The first Bass Clinic I saw (I'd already seen tons of Drum ones) was 'Ready' Freddie at the Bass Centre in Birmingham when he was on tour with Michael Jackson. Ace player.

[quote name='guitarjong' timestamp='1349636866' post='1828575'] My first bass amp after playing bass for 24 years!!! [/quote] What have you been doing if you haven't had a bass amp in that length of time?

[quote name='iiipopes' timestamp='1349562871' post='1827854'] It's the technique of being able to switch positions laterally rather than longitudinally (across the neck instead of up and down the neck) for increased faculty (easier to play) on patterns, scales, intervals, leaps, and other advanced techniques that most of us, including me, don't really ever get into, but can appreciate. [/quote] This defence always comes up,but to be honest,I don't particularly buy it that much (except in the case of Anthony Jackson who is probably the only guy to actually make great use of that).Great you can play 2 octave scales in one position,but that's no big deal-you can do it on a 4 string with only one shift. There are tons of players who can,and have been able to play extended scales,intervals etc. on 4 and 5 strings,it's not that difficult if you know your instrument.I've also never seen anyone that plays an instrument like this use any 'advanced techniques' that can't be done on other instruments. Like I've said before,I've got no problem with extended range instruments,but for the vast majority of players they are about the extreme lows and highs (then again,there are lots of 5 string players who are all about the lowest notes too).

I think they're ok if they are used as an occasional effect,like any effect in general,but I wouldn't be overly impressed if it was constantly used for pitch correction or whatever.

[quote name='arthurhenry' timestamp='1349630426' post='1828464'] Technically and literally true, but I suspect almost every single band that tunes down a semitone would refer to the notes as if standard. If you were tuned down a semitone and someone told you to play a D, would you naturally go for the 6th fret? Surely the idea of tuning all the strings down (but still tuned in 4ths) is that you can 'forget' you've done it and play/refer to notes as normal. [/quote] If I was detuned,then yes I would be thinking of D as being on the 6th fret,because that's where it will be and I'm thinking about the notes,not the fret number. Try playing with a keys player or a horn player(or anyone that isn't a guitarist) and referring to the notes as if you were in standard tuning.

[quote name='arthurhenry' timestamp='1349603421' post='1828075'] Are you saying that if tuned to D, for example, they would still refer to 3rd fret note as G rather than F? Agreed - that's annoying. Or are you saying that if tuned down a semitone, the 3rd fret Eb string should be referred to as F#? Perhaps a bit fussy and confusing! [/quote] If you are tuned down to Eb the 3rd fret would be an F#...Why would that be fussy and confusing,especially as you say that the first example is annoying? It's the same thing.

[quote name='eude' timestamp='1349423013' post='1826035'] What's the build quality like on the MiBass heads? Oh, and is there an ETA on the MiBass cabs? The product photos have changed on the website but very little else, they were meant to be here months ago... Cheers, Eude [/quote] The MiBass heads are great quality. I've had no problems with mine-I take it out all the time and it still doesn't have a mark on it, and it's not like I baby my gear.All the controls are smooth and solid too.I can't say anything against it. As far as I'm aware with the cabs,last time I spoke to Lee he told me that they were expecting delivery of the cabs hopefully in the next few weeks.

[quote name='pietruszka' timestamp='1349525477' post='1827338'] In the function band we play Superstition, who doesn't?! And we play it in E, not Eb for sheer ease, I would imagine pretty much everyone will to. [/quote] The function bands I play with always play it in Eb.We have keys and horns though-all the bands that I've played it in E with have been guitar bands. With regards to drop tuning,I generally don't do it (despite having a D-tuner on my Jazz) and have never had any need to-even with guitarists that do. If you want to detune,that's fine-the only thing that bothers me is when people detune and refer to the notes incorrectly (the same with capos).

[quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1349528142' post='1827378'] You need to find [u]your[/u] bass. I suspect, if you're asking about MIMs (or for that matter MIJs) vs MIA P basses, then you do indeed need to own a MIA, for at least a bit, and see what you think. Does it have that extra bit of sound/feel/mojo for the extra money? You can pick up an MIA P for between £500 and £600 on here ..... and you won't lose much at all if you resell it on here. Not a great deal of a jump from a MIM or MIJ. [/quote] This is where I disagree....I don't think that you need to own a US made Fender to see if you like it. Ultimately,it doesn't matter if the American,Japanese,Mexican,Korean or what(although I'm guessing to some people it must be a big thing)-they are all Fenders. Personally,I'd never by a bass just to see what I think.I can normally tell within a couple of minutes if I like an instrument or not,so if it doesn't grab me I'm not going to spend the money with the thought of selling it if I don't like it later. Like I said earlier,one of the nicest Precision's I've tried for a while has been a Squier Classic Vibe. Sod what it says on the headstock, it played and sounded great.

[quote name='stevie' timestamp='1349515244' post='1827191'] That's a great performance. We're doing it in E flat (or C minor). What position on the neck do you play it in? [/quote] It's normally in C minor,and I generally play it down in the first 5 frets.I don't play the verse n position because I play the octaves (and the fifth) between my first and fourth fingers,so I shift a bit between 3 frets. I play the chorus entirely in first position though.

I'm guessing that the London Bass Show has hurt Bass Day somewhat?

[quote name='4 Strings' timestamp='1349474797' post='1826998'] Think how happy you'd be if they were MIA! [/quote] Apparently I'd be much happier.

[quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1349472166' post='1826956'] Somebody asks what's this about MIA Precisions. Someone else says they're pukka followed by a load of hard up people with MIM or MIJ Fenders who pretend they once had an MIA but it wasn't as good as their cheaper thing. [/quote] Yes,that's obviously the reason why people recommend non US Fenders Despite having a lot of nice basses (inc. Warwick,Shuker,Roscoe,Pre-Nashville Tobias) two of my hardest working (and favourite)instruments are my Japanese Fender Jazz and my Mexican Fender Jazz Deluxe V. Being 'hard up' has absolutely nothing to do with.

[quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1349464799' post='1826799'] Your lover should definitely be Italian though. [/quote] Nah.

[quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1349463872' post='1826774'] Your lover should be Italian. Your guitars should come from the US of A. [/quote] Mine's Mexican and my Fenders are either Japanese or Mexican,so what does that say? I've got Japanese and Mexican Fenders and a couple of Squiers (one '83 Jap and one newer) and I'm happy to take any of them on gigs. I've played US models and I don't sh*t myself with excitement. They are nice,but really not far superior to any of mine. In fact one of the nicest Precision Basses I've tried for a while was a Squier Classic Vibe.

[quote name='Twigman' timestamp='1349451756' post='1826557'] We don't own a tenor sax between us and the sax player (who is also the vocalist) has only recently learned to play sax, only has an alto and has learned the fingering for the part as though it was for tenor. [/quote] Schoolboy error. So the entire band has to transpose everything because your sax player has learn his instrument incorrectly?