Shockwave

We need a bass bash in Bristol. Thats where 99% of the board members come from anyway!

Hahah, I tried out for this band ages ago they had a manager who was a complete dick, The guitarist is such an Ego hog, And wouldnt allow the bass to do anything but root notes and if i did try he said i was trying to take over the band. The Drummer is the only nice guy, Young guy named jake the best and most talented out of the bunch. They have been looking for members for a long time and people usually leave or get kicked out. The music is boring as hell. Many songs being based on three chords. Dont bother.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='116085' date='Jan 8 2008, 10:12 AM']Y'see, to me, music is one of the most primal, emotional & soulful pleasures we have. I'm fairly sure 99.9% of the musicians I admire have never been on one of these courses. I seem to recall that Dream Theatre formed at Berkeley. *cough*[/quote] Whilst they are one of my fave bands and musicians of a excellant calibre i dont see any emotion or originality in the lines they make. Sure they are technical but they have zero emotion, Sure they can "Simulate" Emotion, But still. Dream theater are alot like classical musicians. They are about as rock and roll as a prawn cocktail crisp packet. (Yes i am a huge fan of them but i dont delude myself with biased ramblings!)

[quote name='stingrayfan' post='116075' date='Jan 8 2008, 09:49 AM']Isn't it just like actors going to acting school? Bear in mind most bass playing jobs in the music industry won't be in Top 10 rock bands. It'll be reading off charts somewhere random like a theatre show or a cruise. It pays to be a Jaco of all trades rather than a Mark King of one. [/quote] Believe it or not i have also done 6 years of drama and related subjects. With acting yes its an art as much as music is, however there is alot more to it. With acting its very hard to learn at home on your own how to act. You need to have criticism because you cant watch yourself act well. However being a musician is far easier to teach on your own. You can record and hear your mistakes easily. Plus there is some demand for the very good actors at acting school and generally get hired during or after completing the course. Also as to the jaco of all trades and mark king comment. I would rather play like Mark King then a jaco. yes i probably wont get very famous or rich from it. But at least i will be playing in the style i really want to. To me playing the music i want to play in the way i wish to play it is far more important then adhering to a standard and be bored playing but for money.

I wont go into a huge debate about this. However, Since when did anyone need a degree or qualification in music to actually play or get a session? The laughable thing is, I have been in a music tec hcourse and had interviews for various music courses and i find it hilarious how teachers try and sell the course. And how it gives big oppurtunities to anyone. I am not so much against the course as i am against the teachers and people who try and sell these courses as a must have to be a musician. However as to making students do bland uninteresting music, that is also down to the teachers. When i did a BTEC Music technology I made a death metal/jazz track in 7/8 and 3/4. My teachers loved it. However did it set me up for anything in the real world or teach me anything new about music technology? Not really i got a overall merit grade yet i never learnt how to sight read, never was able to use logic effectively and didnt get any work from it. It was fun but at the end of the day the people who create and teach these courses go home with money in their pocket and the student goes home with a worthless qualification. Now i am at uni studying Computer software engineering and the amount of work i have put in the past 3 months and the amount i have learned is staggering and twice as much as any music course. And i knew more about computing then i did music. So in closing. Music courses = Sometimes fun, Worthless qualification, If you have time and money to do it and maybe learn something do it, But never do it for a career. (Unless your a classical musician, in which case you should have started back when you took your GCSE's! EDIT: I learnt far more watching other musicians play at live gigs then i have courses.