VTypeV4

Nice comparison.. I do look at them from time-to-time but I can't really justify owning one. My Ashton does the 'thick, loud and punchy' thing and the Twin Valve does the 'super transparent Trace' bit so buy something that sits somewhere between the two would be a bit pointless. As I've said previously, my Commando 10 was an excellent little amp with plenty of volume for such a small box and ten inch speaker. It'd be interesting to compare the Commando (12 & 15) pre-amp with the V-type to see if there's much different (other than the 'valve' thing) tonally going on.

Very cool indeed!

Excellent, watching a couple of the ADA8000 on ebay right now.. Looks like a cheap(ish) way of getting 32 channels.. I wonder if I used the outs configured 1-8 and then 9-16 connected back to the ins for 17-24 and 25-32 I could have a 'second copy' of 1-16 on 17-32 and apply different EQ / dynamics to squeeze a bit more and have a bit more control over of my monitors?

Looks like I need to read the manual better! Thanks..

As I understand it, the ADATs are out only whereas the TDIF are in only.. Unless I've misunderstood of course..?

Monster rig! I used to have a 600SMX, it was a great bit of kit when I ran it with an 1153 and a 1048H..

Does anyone know of any alternatives to the Soundcraft external pre-amps that were designed to be used with the above digital desks? They have 8 inputs with manual gain, 48v, phase invert and HPF controls then link to the desk via a TDIF connection. Two can be used to extend the desks' 16 inputs to a full 32 channel outfit. I can't seem to find any alternatives? Essentially what i'm looking for is analogue in to TDIF digital out. Thanks, Matt

Some pix would be good..

Any joy? did they sort it for you?

Put some new valves in my Stereo 20 a few months back.. [URL=http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/ShuguangLeak84_zps679d8173.jpg.html][IMG]http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/VTypeV4/ShuguangLeak84_zps679d8173.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/Leak84OVVW_zps083774de.jpg.html][IMG]http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/VTypeV4/Leak84OVVW_zps083774de.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Excellent, glad you're happy with the result although it was a shame you got ripped off.. All is well that ends well. Nice one.

[URL=http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/LinearChas4_zps3b03a1e5.jpg.html][IMG]http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/VTypeV4/LinearChas4_zps3b03a1e5.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [url="http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/LinearChas3_zps699c01ea.jpg.html"][/url] [url="http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/LinearChas2_zps8032ec9f.jpg.html"][/url] [url="http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/LinearChass1_zps4ceab6c6.jpg.html"][/url] Some pix of The Linear L30. I tightened a banging panel on one of the cabs but thought I'd have a look inside at the same time. To my surprise I found the 12" Goodmans Audiom 51s to be 16 ohms rather than the expected 8. The amp was designed to work (slightly inconveniently) at either 3 or fifteen ohms so however the two cabs are configured, they're the wrong load. The amp has worked with these cabs at 4 ohms since the '60s but on doing a little research the general concensus is 'under' load the amp so I've put the 8 ohm load onto the 15 ohm tap. It doesn't seem to have made much difference to be fair.. Whilst it's been apart I've given it a thorough clean and visual inspection.

I've had these bad-boys re-coned.. My Mrs is a star. [URL=http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/GoodmansPair_zps4d0bdb00.jpg.html][IMG]http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/VTypeV4/GoodmansPair_zps4d0bdb00.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Gonna knock up a reasonably compact sealed double 15 cab for them to live in.

[right]I'll take the right hand pair please as above ^[/right]

I'd have said it was a Fane too.. Good luck.

Personally I'd look for something like a Spirit Powerstation and a pair of Peavey HiSys 2s.. You'll spend only a little bit more money but it'd be well worth it.. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soundcraft-Spirit-Powerstation-600-12-Ch-Powered-Studio-Mixer-Lexicon-VAT-INC-/321156370236?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Mixers&hash=item4ac6694f3c#ht_6002wt_758"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soundcraft-Spirit-Powerstation-600-12-Ch-Powered-Studio-Mixer-Lexicon-VAT-INC-/321156370236?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Mixers&hash=item4ac6694f3c#ht_6002wt_758[/url] This one is a bit over priced but other examples come up for less monies.. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peavey-HiSys-2-XT-Loud-Speaker-cabs-with-Black-Widows-/400624284095?pt=UK_ConElec_SpeakersPASystems_RL&hash=item5d471171bf#ht_44wt_958"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peavey-HiSys-2-XT-Loud-Speaker-cabs-with-Black-Widows-/400624284095?pt=UK_ConElec_SpeakersPASystems_RL&hash=item5d471171bf#ht_44wt_958[/url] These are still great speakers on a budget.. Hope that helps.

+1 for SRM450.. We used to use a pair for stage monitors and they were very good all-round.

I like the look of these although I usually prefer the control of input gain / master volume. Knowing EBS' usual high standards I bet these are a killer amp, I'd love to try one. The 90w rating doesn't put me off, I've gigged with less so it wouldn't be an issue.

Is it me or does this all seem a trifle ridiculous not to mention a waste of time?

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1386410812' post='2299728'] bang for buck, old trace elliot stuff.... [/quote] +1 Any of the bigger ones, GP11 500 and later 400 / 600 SMX or AH500 - 12 are pretty pokey. My vote would be for the 400..

The old Trace Elliot V-Type pre-amp was lovely and woorked really well for me. I didn't have the rack unit but had a 4808 combo and a V4. The tone circuit is apparerently the old Fender design which pretty much works as well today as it ever did..

These will be going into a DIY cab when they're back from re-cone.. Not sure if to go for direct radiating or horn plus HF component tho. [URL=http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/GoodmansPair_zps4d0bdb00.jpg.html][IMG]http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/VTypeV4/GoodmansPair_zps4d0bdb00.jpg[/IMG][/URL] I tried these for a bit but they were a bit too old fashioned. The one with the EV sounded better. Sold them on the bay a few weeks back. [URL=http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/BeavisW2_zpsa0418bce.jpg.html][IMG]http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/VTypeV4/BeavisW2_zpsa0418bce.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

I had a look at the old thread too.. I once replaced some burned out Ashdown drivers for a friend which had 6 ohm stamped on the frame. I think i was an old MAG 410.. The cab was rated for 450w with a claimed impedance of 8 but it was wired series / parallel with 4 of these identical units and that doesn't make a nominal 8, makes a nominal 6 in my book.

I don't have the SWR cab but if I multi-meter my 4 ohm 15" HH driver, it measures ~3.85 ohm so you might not be a million miles off. Also consider you have a high frequency component in that cab and some form of crossover network so that may well be confusing your reading a little.. I'd consider your cab 4 ohm..

Excellent.. These days I expect some of the Trace cabs will be showing their age with worn-out drivers as well as cosmetic issues. Never really had any issues with ones I owned and the 810 was one of the best ever. It's good to know that the Trace heads pair well with the new lightweight cabs, shows there's life in those (mostly great IME) amps even though I don't think Trace is really very fashionable these days. It was postulated in another thread a while back that they may consider making a compact head and matching cabs themselves.. It's a bit like modding an old bike which has a great engine but the old wheels are an odd size, the forks are thin and the rear shocks are worn out and replacing them with modern running gear. Bit like a GS1000 or RD350.