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Thanks, Clarky! Lovely stuff for some old geezers like meself, and apparently for some young'uns too. [quote name='Wil' timestamp='1347912539' post='1806632'] They really knew how to use dynamics to their full too, I think the Lamb might have the widest dynamic range of all the non classical music in my collection? [/quote] Hey! Completely new perspective for me. Never even used one brain cell on Genesis' dynamics. Cool and thanks. As for dynamics in prog, my pet peeve has always been Van der Graaf Generator. VdGG not only used dynamics to the extreme, but also followed them up with wildly varying vocals with great intensity. Lurv them. Lurv Genesis almost as much. best, bert

Hey Themrperson, Welcome to BC, belatedly. It was great reading your story, and as you already will know, people will be standing in line to help you progress. Be aware though when writing your bass is "crap". Before you know it, people will wanna set it up for you at your home, and they'll be asking for your address, not even realising this sometimes is not appropriate. Anyway, kudos for joining, and don't be a stranger, best, bert

Hey John, Though I'm funky nor groovy, allow me to wish you welcome to the surface. Great read, that OP. Keep enjoying, bert

[quote name='tom1946' timestamp='1347908972' post='1806554'] it's hard not to move when you are the main rhythm player, her mind tends to be on 3 things at once so mike discipline isn't top of the list when playing and singing.[/quote] This again points to Cheeky Mikey and he should preferably come with a Sound Transmitting Device, but those tend to stress your assumed budget gravely, unless the church will pay. If you can find a cheap one, check back with us (not me - I don't know any of them personally) or search for serious tests. In a budget situation, I still feel that in total she may be best served by the ones proposed by Stevie. [quote name='tom1946' timestamp='1347908972' post='1806554'] From what I can see a supercardiod would be best?[/quote] Practically speaking and simply: yes. Do not get taken in by the word itself though. I once had some cheapish supercardioids (still like 50 or 60 quid) that were rubbish as to feedback. The essence is to choose a Potent Mike like the AKGs, Audio Technicas, Beyerdynamics or Sennheisers. Remember you can't go really wrong with an SM57 (see what Spike wrote), but one has to almost eat the SMs and hide one's face behind them. best, bert

I've seen numbers here that something has to deviate 15% for it to be legal. Silly question: how the feck are you gonna calculate that then? Company names here, however, are legal already if they deviate with one letter or an apostrophe, so the company Coca/Cola is already legal in that respect. Guess three times who is gonna win the lawsuit though... best' bert'

[quote name='Leon Transaxle' timestamp='1347884157' post='1806069'] Why do this then leave the back battery cover in a pristine condition? [/quote] This. By large, all these jobs reveal their fakeness on this type of things, the basses' pristine necks standing out most. Nothing more charming and awe-inspiring than a well working or weird old instrument that really has gone through its paces, and shows it. But relic'ing? "I'm sick! Stop the car [b]right now[/b]!" best, bert

[quote name='tom1946' timestamp='1347822890' post='1805507'] She is quite soft spoken and the church is fairly big and old.[/quote] Getting back to this: How are the acoustics? How many pairs of speakers are used? Any speakers close to the "speaking area" and pointing in its general direction? Charic's ideas seem very worthwile to me, but the clip-ons are easily a hit or miss, and should be tested on the actual soft-spoken one in the actual room. Also, cables or expensive wireless systems really trouble the experience, especially when different people are gonna use them during the same service. A good supercardioid on a stand on the other hand is simple and just works. That said, for speach I use a cheapish Olympus (yes, Olympus) clip-on that works a treat even when a motor is running right on the side. My Beyerdynamic (which I chose over the SM58 even though my sister worked for Shure at the time) hardly leaves its box. best, bert

^ totally this.

[quote name='Mick Kahn't' timestamp='1347802743' post='1805147'] Although looking at the SR500 now as you seem to get a bit more for not too much more money [/quote] That's great. Here it costs at least twice as mu ... Oooh! Your fat fingers again! You're lusting for the SR5000E-OL. I see. Great bass I reckon. best, bert

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1347790968' post='1804912'] Because hardly anyone uses them.[/quote] Essentially yes. Customers tend to have no idea about how extremely expensive it is to produce, distribute, stock and market products that are of a less popular type. [quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1347795011' post='1804985'] I think more and more people are discovering and liking them, especially on the other side of the pond. [/quote] Yes, we do like them on this side of the pond. That said, I've always liked them, though it started out as a finger saving alternative to the then obligatory Rotosound rounds. I'm now(ish) putting flats on my fretted Bongo, as it is said to sound killer. best, bert

Hey Iain, Welcome to BC and welcome back to bass. It's buyers' market these days, so a cheap combo is waiting for you at another basschatter's house. Good luck with the chase. best, bert

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1347746672' post='1804664'] You're already addicted [/quote] Hehehe, glad you did spot it. Yes, I am, and am very grateful too. best, bert

Man, I wish I could help. Sadly, in 45 years of playing, I've never dropped a note, never played the wrong song, never playing at a different speed than the rest of the band, never had a sound guy get drunk during the break, never had any cables being pulled out, and always had a perfect mix in the monitor. So I can't help you, but my guess would be that you're human, which must be nice, I guess. My guess would also be that next time you guys will do everything, [b]everything[/b], to make sure you can hear each other, and you will do just fine. My last guess is that this experience will help you grow. Good luck. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. best, bert

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1347653550' post='1803748'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUq7tbuH00E[/media] [/quote] [b]Wow, wow, wow![/b] Thanks so much. Had never heard about them, but love their studio music as well as their live stuff. Have bought Man Alive right away, plus the Schoolin' EP, the iTunes Festival live album and a remix of a song. All this is on repeat right now. Thanks again, bert

Thanks for all the help. I'm slowly getting more confident on this project. [quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1347671335' post='1803968'] Even bigger than this[/quote] Thanks. So my neck isn't even [b]that[/b] special. I'm also mucho impressionado. How do you even find stuff like that? When I google for "huge bass guitar", I get: That surely is a coincidence. Though admittedly, I also get: [quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1347671474' post='1803969'] By Spinal Tap.[/quote] Ah! Thanks. I had forgotten it. Must revisit. [quote name='lurksalot' timestamp='1347694522' post='1804019'] it could just be some railway track cut into pieces and glued to a tree, [/quote] That would explain the £79.00 quite effectively. [quote name='Blademan_98' timestamp='1347694788' post='1804023'] Such an eloquent description of a Jazz neck lol [/quote] LOL indeed. Thanks for playing, gents! I'll get back to you when I get trouble with the neck. After all, it [b]is[/b] gonna be a crap cheap bass. best, bert

[quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1347697328' post='1804049'] muff boxes[/quote] Huh? Isn't that tautological or at the very least pleonastic?

Lovely story. Thanks for sharing. I think I'd have loved to be there. best, bert

Moving up pricewise, yes? I don't know those basses, but can't imagine anything but that they'll both be awesome. In that price range there's dozens upon dozens of well-working things, and Yamaha and Ibanez certainly are amongst them. Just in case: you do realise the RBX 375 is a 5-stringer, yes? The 4 string version is called RBX 374. From what I've read on BC, the SR 300 (assuming there was a typing error in "SB 300") has a very effective mids knob. I fail to remember what it does, but I'm sure you know by now. Are you comfortable with the idea of two humbuckers? I like it, but the classical setup for flexibility is said to be 1 hb and 1 sc. best, bert

[quote name='mushers' timestamp='1347657107' post='1803814'] saw this earlier today and thought the neck seemed pretty standard ... the penny just dropped that is a rather large neck [/quote] Ain't it indeed? At least for a Jazz neck. That is what bothers me most. You specifically order a Jazz neck, and then this! I'm getting worried about technique here, cause I do prefer to place my thumb right on the skunk stripe whenever possible, and only move it up or down when required for demanding passages. best, bert

[quote name='deanovw' timestamp='1347633219' post='1803368'] Have you got really big hands? [/quote] No, but I do have really cold feet now! [quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1347633380' post='1803371'] If it's being built, is it not a case of "tough" as far as the maker is concerned? I don't know many places refund custom orders. What was the comment about the body? [/quote] Happily, it's not a custom, though indeed I would have reckoned things like these only come as customs. As to the body, I posted the demands for the neck pocket above. [quote name='bremen' timestamp='1347633553' post='1803375'] Going to play Stonehenge on it? [/quote] Stonehenge the venue? Maybe. Stonehenge the song? Don't know it. Stonehenge the board game? Dunno if that's possible. Will see. "Stonehenge" the ex-wife? Don't think so! best, bert

[quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1347635622' post='1803422'] GIve me good old feet and inches, we never got confused when I was a lad.....[/quote] I don't have enough hardwood for inches, let alone for feet, but thanks for the idea. My next project maybe. [quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1347647637' post='1803669'] carve it into a canoe! [/quote] Wow, that was the bestest idea I've ever heard! I could make myself another Greenland style sea kayak, 52-54cm wide and 26cm high. A bit low for most, but I do sit quite comfy in a low kayak. Thanks! [quote name='Blademan_98' timestamp='1347650399' post='1803708'] Can't wait to see the amp you are going to drive with that baby. [/quote] Hadn't even thought that far ahead, but now you write this, there [b]is[/b] an avatar on BC with a grand 810. I'll contact the owner. He might take the phone up there. Edit: It's Barkin, and it's a 610 (yes, I know about scale math). Have a look: best, bert

If I compare the little I know about 25 years ago with the little I know about today - - basswise that is - - buying a cheapish bass then was a lot more risky than it is today. So at least as to quality you're quite safe when buying any of the ones proposed. We have more ideas in stock as well, so just keep sending info and asking more. Can you remember anything about what you like as to necks? This might be the most important factor. Do you remember anything about string distances, fretboard radius and the like? What style(s) are you thinking of playing? IMHO not the most important issue, but important enough for some. best, bert

Thanks! Can I assume the neck pup is at the original place then? Looks interesting and relatively cheap at the same time. best, bert

Hi Mick, Welcome to BC. Teach us newbies sumten. As to cheap basses, what I think I've learned from here is that the Yamaha RBX is great, and beats the hull out of the Ibby in the same price range. For RBX prices (roughly), Squier do a short scale Jaguar without all the switches, whilst a 34" scale Jaguar is somewhat more expensive (here in Norway at least). Alos have a look at a used Squier CV (or VM). Don't remember if they come in Jaguar (think they do), but at least come as Precision and Jazz. Good luck with the chase! Enjoy! best, bert

[quote name='cloudburst' timestamp='1347633927' post='1803384'] Makes Steinberger look hopelessly over engineered. [/quote] Fantastic! Yes, I'll do that. Now reteach me: I get quarter tones that way, yes? j-best, j-bert