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[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1401101872' post='2459985'] Where would music be without entertainment? Surely the real conclusion is that there is room for all forms of music . . . Even karaoke and elevator Muzak. You just have to choose the stuff you like and allow others to do the same. [/quote] There should be, and I'd like to think that there is room. I just hope that, over time, the original stuff doesn't get elbowed out of venues for financial reasons.

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[quote name='HowieBass' timestamp='1401101744' post='2459982'] Opinions are always 100% accurate because it's a person's viewpoint based on their own experience at the time [/quote] How would you apply that to the second example? What if he played it now and it's a disappointment? Then his opinion was not 100% accurate

An opinion is a personal thing, and everyone is entitled to one, although some are more qualified than others, right? This topic is about how time/memories/other factors may distort the truth somewhat. Here's some hypothetical examples: - A player had a 2EQ Stingray 13 years ago, and he has always upheld on BC that they didn't like the tone. The truth is, he was young and clueless about controls at that time, and in likelihood just had the Bass and Treble cranked all the time. - Someone states that a certain rig that they had in the '70s was the perfect tone, a tone that no other rig to this day can equal. That was 40 years ago - the person is very different, their hearing is probably different. Perhaps those 'glory days' bring back all sorts of happy memories of youth, groupies etc. and their memory has filtered out all the crap stuff. Could their memory have sweetened up the tone of that rig over time? - A band are supporting, and the headliners kindly offer the use of their gear. The bass player is faced with an Orange Terror bass and a Markbass cab, neither of which she has used before. She is too polite to tweak the controls, so plays the gig, and is not keen on the tone. Every time an Orange Terror is mentioned on BC, she chips in saying that they are crap. I have been guilty of 'blanket statements' on BC in the past. When you think about it, how accurate are your opinions on gear?

[quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1401096458' post='2459896'] I've just had Jon Shuker build me a sublime bass, the easiest design process via email I've encountered. Alan's ACGs are also fantastic, his lead times are why I didn't pick one of them, and also his shapes are all too Jazz-y for me, but might suit you. I will say, though, that nearer you are to definite and settled on your design requirements, the happier you'll be with the finished results. I knew EXACTLY what I wanted, and when I got it, executed by Jon with what I can only describe as artistry, I was very happy indeed. If you go down the luthier route with any vagueness, you run the risk of disappointing yourself, and then you'll be left with an instrument with a terrifying residual value. [/quote] You chose Shuker over ACG because the Shuker lead time was shorter??

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1401094265' post='2459858'] what he said - I picked my Hellborg preamp up partly because 2x18's nice power amp needed more output than it could give [/quote] You mean the Hellborg didn't have enough output for the power amp? This compatibility is tricky to know in advance, as not many preamp manufacturers state the output levels. I had to contact Glockenklang (who were great) to ensure that my head's preamp had enough output for the Crown. For the Avalon, I've just had to go on anecdotal web stuff where people have said that they've happily run their U5 with a Crown power amp.

Have you seen this? http://basschat.co.uk/topic/237669-2014-bacchus-woodline-dx-ltd-exotic-wood-range/page__pid__2459774#entry2459774

You could have bought my Crown XTi2000 but as of yesterday, I've pulled it from the marketplace to use in my rig with a preamp (Avalon U5) As soon as I have the rig up and running and gigged it a few times, I'll let you know my thoughts.

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1401084602' post='2459786'] I've got an OC3 too. A very fast chorus at the end of the chain is good for DnB sounds. [/quote] Stop it! I'm skint :-D

Good call, thanks chaps. I've got a 2.5m iron cable and plug, and a separate 'kettle' plug. Should be just the ticket

Haha Nothing wrong with a waney edge in the right context - I have 'Fred Flintstone' shelves in my lounge. IMO this has been done by someone who has a moderate woodwork ability (machined dovetails and other rudimentary jointing) and a poor sense of design God knows what it sounds like. As an experienced cabinet maker, even I'd rather leave the acoustic cabinet stuff to the experts. Can you even have an open-backed cab for bass?

Hahah, I wasn't expecting that! I like the ironic way that he refers to his 'better half'

Using the XLR balanced line out to the PA is exactly the right thing to do. The XLR input would be for plugging in a double bass pickup

[quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1401027320' post='2459282'] That's the Sleng Teng bass line, I think it was played on an SH-101, but yeah an OC-2 will give you the basis of it but you'll be missing a bit of the crispiness of the higher frequencies. With my gear I'd run an OC-2 into my Bugcrusher to add in some treble content and then use my Xerograph to filter some of the really high stuff out. It's worth noting though that the OC-2 does sound different depending on the signal you feed it with, and you might get something close to that by putting a distortion before the OC-2. Avoid chorus, that won't work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjw7m-BKmQ8 [/quote] Great info, thanks. I've actually just bagged an OC3 for cheap on the marketplace, so looking forward to playing with it. I have a Xerograph, so it should come in handy. I'm thinking this tone will come in handy for the more Dancehall style songs we do too

I have a bit of a thing about my cables being flexible. You know, the type which bend really easily, and stay that way when you let go. Not stiff plastic, but nice bendy rubber. I'm sorted for speaker/instrument cables, but really want a nice bendy mains 'kettle' lead. Any recommendations? Thanks

I've been checking out different octavers on Yt this morning. This one amuses me - you can tell by the settings that as soon as he switches it on, it will make no noise. Switch>silence>hasty tweak. And that's the one he uploads to YT :-D Surely that's a key part of preparation? (Apologies if you're a Basschatter, but it is quite funny) http://youtu.be/k3wlIVxC0UQ

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1401012301' post='2458999'] If there's any way you can get the valves checked over then you should definitely do this whilst it's still covered by warranty. [/quote] I believe that this amp, because it's a sale item, is 'sold as seen' so I'm guessing there's no warranty

Great stuff, thanks folks. I've checked out some YT vids. There's a really clear Subterrenea demo, and it sounds superb. I love the clean octave sounds, but the as soon as you start to kick in the filter and waveforms, I can already get a lot of those sounds with my existing pedals. The Boss OC2 seems like a good bet. It sounds good enough clean, but would also be fun mixing in drive/fuzz/LPF/Expression pedal too. Also, it's a lot cheaper than the Sub! Thanks a lot folks

One of our new songs has a kind of old-skool rave vibe, and I'd like to get a tone like that in the following video (bass starts at 0:30). I'm assuming this is keyboard bass, but any pointers on approximating it on bass guitar please? Thanks http://youtu.be/xI8S1Nn6NRk

Not surprised the LB is louder - I have a 100w valve amp which is way louder than my 440w solid state one

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1400967456' post='2458758'] It's the only option, really... [/quote] ...to live in once you're divorced

Good man! Coincidentally, I was going to post a 'talk me out of my amp GAS' thread today, but decided against it at the last minute. Glad I didn't now :-D

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1400958379' post='2458633'] Er... I mean, no... don't buy it. It's too heavy, you can't easily hide it from your partner and it will be expensive to maintain. Is that better..? [/quote] Ah, redeemed yourself :-D