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It requires a MIDI controller capable of sending at least 5 simultaneous CC messages. I suggest using your Wahoo, Manta and Mastotron sale funds to buy a Morningstar MC6. They come up used loads.

Was this the one that was on eBay for £500? That was a bargain.

Glad you like it. Did you see I’d managed to create a chord freeze with it? See a few posts up.

Use the Neuro desktop editor, plug USB directly into the C4, navigate to your onboard C4 patch. Then send a MIDI PC message to your Hub corresponding to the slot you wish to save this preset to then press save on the Hub. Voila, your C4 patch is now stored as a hub scene!

I’d strongly recommend looking at the Future Impact or Source Audio C4 instead. The super synth has no square wave oscillator which is a travesty for something calling itself a synth.

It’s a bit unusual: if you are able to send MIDI into the C4 on the USB port then you can use MIDI PC messages to change the onboard patches. If you are controlling the C4 via the Hub over TRRS cables then in order to switch the C4’s internal patches you need to send CC messages - can’t remember off the top of my head which but it’s something like 104 and 105 to scroll up and down. (Look in the manual or open the MIDI map from the “devices” tab to check what the CCs are, or set your own.) You can load specific patches with another CC in the low 100s, the value you send determined the patch loaded. There’s a CC for loading the patch engaged and another for loading it bypassed. If your controller only sends PC messages and you’ve hooked up the C4 to the Hub via TRRS cable then your best bet is to store your C4 presets as Hub scenes (so they are saved on the Hub as opposed to on the C4). These can then be recalled by MIDI PC messages.

I've managed to create a chord freeze/hold function on the C4! You can hear it both with and without filter envelope retriggering: https://drive.google.com/file/d/12fNTA5hbrN8mv8Ndg_i12R3QX_AvFpMM/view?usp=sharing

Turn the amp envelope sustain parameter to zero. Raise the amp decay slider until it fades at the rate you want.

Seriously, download latencymon. There’s a guide which tells you why the processes are and which ones are safe to disable. You can also do something about the processor - many have a power saving mode which speeds it up and slows it down as required. This needs turning off to so that the processor runs at full speed the whole time. There are other options within the power management menu that control stuff like window transitions, animations, etc, all of which take their toll. I think all this might have been covered in the latencymon document too.

Windows or Mac? It is affected by many factors. Faster processor helps as does sticking in as much memory as it’ll take. Do you have an external audio interface? That will help. If not, download and install ASIO4ALL and disable all other sound drivers. Disable stuff like mics, onboard speakers, DVD drive and internet cards (wireless and wired). Other things that slow stuff down are background processes. Check what’s loading at startup and disable anything you don’t need. Download and run Latencymon and you’ll see what’s hogging processing power. Go through the list and remove or disable anything that isn’t needed.

Here’s an old line of mine that I’m finally trying to work up into something. @Shepster8316 this is why I was desperate to get the MXR BEF back. Thanks for coming through with it!

Sound effects are good too. Have you heard my FM-alike patch? It’s mad and totally unmusical but fun. There’s always a use for stuff.

You could upload and share the patch!

I recently bought a couple of books from Nick. Everything went fine, books were as described and posted promptly, packed well and all communication was clear, prompt and friendly. Many thanks.

Paul saw my recent wanted ad for an MXR bass envelope filter which I’d had and sold when times were harder and was keen to have again. He got in touch, sent the photos I requested and everything came together splendidly. Communication was prompt, clear, friendly and thorough. Pedal was just as described and packed well. Posted really quickly and arrived the next day. Couldn’t ask for more. Deal in confidence. Many thanks, Paul!

I've made loads of headway today in porting my II-V-I progression ideas that I originally developed for the Future Impact over to the C4. I'm using a Morningstar MC8 to control a few things. I've got the 3rds and 7ths working so that the voice leading is smooth. That is, the 7th of one chord falls a semitone to form the 3rd of the next chord whereas the third of one chord remains at the same pitch to form the 7th of the next chord. I’ve used the harmoniser to do this but implemented it such that the same C4 voice (1-4) plays the same positional note in the chord, i.e. voice 1 always plays the lowest note in the chord, irrespective of what chord tone it might be. This involves using midi to switch the interval of the harmoniser when changing chord. It also involves some octave shifting depending on whether the bass note is moving up a 5th or down a 4th to the next root. I’ve managed to implement it using only two buttons on the MC8. The first is a momentary button for when you play the dominant chord which inverts the positions of the 3rd and 7th so as to preserve the smooth voice leading. The second button allows you to choose whether the bass moves up-down-up or down-up-down while keeping the voicings played on the same register in both permutations. The 9ths and 5ths/6ths, I had to do manually via fixed interval offsets as the C4 only allows two automatically harmonised pitches at once. Here's a first taste. The first clip uses a basic patch and just goes through each voice first showing that it is leading correctly then I put them together. The Soundcloud clips are a using much nicer patches, which I've shared on Neuro. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_3JbfarEC6jhpsUD16ITE3EdwWH7V3QP/view?usp=sharing

Seems appropriate: There are 2 hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-1 errors.

Even sealed units can have firmware updates via midi ports or USB ports as the FI, Morningstar gear, etc do if set up to do so. I have no idea about Tech 21 stuff. One thing to bear in mind is that the majority of FI users probably don’t use MIDI as they use the pedal on its own. This seems to be borne out by online discussion. We MIDI users are in the minority. I didn’t read your request as a demand. I was just trying to give a fuller picture of the considerations that go into the update process. I say this as someone who has had some of my ideas incorporated and had others rejected. Of course I’d adopt a less self-righteous tone in the manual. 😆