stingrayPete1977

You could display a 31 band EQ on a tablet next to your drink with a real time analysis graph jumping around during your gig of you want, how much more adaptability could you want?

yes

I wouldn't even need the helix, I gig pre eq most of the time, that's £730 saved, the xair digital mixers have guitar and bass amps built in too, I'd never go back now.

As end says it depends on the speakers, my full range PA (735s) is no larger physically than yours but we could leave the guitar and bass amps/cabinets at home or as I said if starting from scratch not even buy them, that's cheaper and less storage space, stage space, quicker setup etc etc, to top it off it will sound better and be more controllable volume wise. There's a reason professional function bands operate that way.

I'd seriously consider selling my Genz 2x12 and Shuttlemax 9.2 to fund a nice wedge, I rarely use them anyway these days.

There's a lot of pub bands with a great guitar amp, bass amp, drum kit and great vocalists who then put the vocals through a Tandy PA because it's "just for vocals", if you were starting from scratch a good pa and modern desk complete with good wedges facing the players instead of backline would be perfect.

If you've got a TC head you can have double without question.

Fwiw I can read fly stinky poo, it doesn't stop me enjoying technically flawed or simple pop and rock songs.

I agree, I'm sure plenty of educated people would disagree with jaywalker's posts, Goodhall for a start, there's only one person here trying to make this an us and them thread.

Wem dominator!? One man's trash is another man's treasure as they say Musical exchange in brum had a tunnel full of 'interesting' stuff, I always wondered why they didn't junk it to make more room, probably worth a few quid now.

The secret is to use a smaller boutique amp then crank that to stage monitoring volume, micd up at head height spread across the room sounds lovely compared to a massive amp blaring at everyone's ankles, which is also why the guitarist can't hear it and turns it up as the gig goes on.

It actually makes loads of sense, you've got much more control over the band mix out front and more control over the volume, as soon as the bass player turns up with his 2000 Watt Matamp you're screwed and inevitably it turns into a volume war and a pub too loud. Small amps, wedges or in ears behind the FOH, full range pa system out front for the win regardless of the venue size, these rock stars running around in front of six Marshall stacks whilst wearing in ears aren't fooling me. ☺

So what about very well educated musicians that still think Jaco is widdley nonsense, just not as clever as jaywalker yet?

And likewise loads of music technically incorrect that people love, ie Bob Dylan wtf

Original Grange Hill theme was a good un.

The trouble is people still buy big backline based on who is using it live, most of it on big stages is nothing more than stage dressing and advertising. The smaller the gig the bigger the amp appears the norm now!

I've got fives only for electric bass but fours only for upright bass.

Just watching a Genesis programme on the yesterday chanel, Phil Collins says he pinched Ringo's drum pattern and fills for the song Shame That's All.

The trouble is those tortoises take a long time to grow!

They are very pretty and in another league to the Stagg, the only thing I'd say is a possible negative is that it's less DB like than a Stagg, if someone was wanting to move onto a full DB later/as well as then I would recommend the Stagg to get the hang of the left (right for Silvia) hand technique of a DB. For me the dots just confuddle me too, I prefer the minimalist Stagg method or none at all if wanting to go full DB later. Quick transition from elec bassist to passable in the mix upright player the NS has it hands down, most convincing DB sound alike goes to the Yamaha, most awkward to play deep neck closest to the real thing goes to the Stagg imo.

Trying to buy basses 'without' an Adam Clayton signature is becoming difficult, I think the ones without will be worth a few quid in years to come!

Once the dinosaurs and their "I need my sound out front blasted from an 8x10 in the corner of the room regardless of the size of the venue" have died out I think setups like this will be common place, looks great.

93% but it was mixing up the Kims for me.

Well the gig was a bit cursed, I came down with manflu but my mates went, their car broke down on the way!