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The article should have read "A local music shop in Harrogate has taken groundshaking bass to the extreme!"

It also annoys me GREATLY that it says "STUNNING 1983 JV series Fender [u][b]SQUIRE[/b][/u] Precision Bass" [b][u]twice[/u][/b] in the listing, despite the fact that it clearly reads "SQUIER" on the bass headstock... numpty alert!

I would also say they definately don't have ANY defence if they didn't actually deliver it to the front door of the address. They shouldn't be letting people accept a package on the driveaway (especially a SHARED driveway) without seeing some I.D.

I don't understand this listing. Listing title says "STUNNING 1983 JL series..." but then further down in the listing it says "1986 JV series Fender Precision Bass" then further on from that, we're back to "The neck date is June 1983, the body date is also 1983 and the serial number is JV54693"... When I looked the serial number up online I got this "Guitar Info - Guitar was made at the Fuji-gen Plant (for Fender Japan), Japan in the Year(s): 1984 - 1987" Am I missing something or do the dates not add up? 1983, 1986, 1984-1987... which is it?! I'm actually REALLY interested in this bass because it could be my birth year bass, but want to be sure before acting!

[quote name='BurritoBass' post='1045333' date='Dec 2 2010, 04:50 PM']Just a thought but perhaps they moved onto bigger and better things Then again.... does anyone's musical dream really end in happiness and glory? Very few really[/quote] Maybe he was so talented, that playing all those instruments at the same time wasn't enough of a challenge anymore. He's taking the next step up from virtuosic one-man band... no-man band!

[quote name='Mog' post='1044011' date='Dec 1 2010, 04:44 PM']Almost time to hit the studio again. This time around we're planning on using a different engineer and producer. However I'm fairly picky when it comes to recording as you'll see....... Usually my sound comes from a blend of direct bass, a reamped signal through a JCM 900 into a gk goldline miked with a bog standard SM57 and a reamped signal through the TE into an Ampeg 4x10 with a Ribbon(+ pop filter) mike at the cone and an AKG D 11 at the port. Sounds tricky I know but its a good mix. I usually only get away with it when recording with our usual guy and have lots of time, but with a new engineer time may be tight and I might not be able to run that set up. So, how do y'all record yer bass tracks? I'm looking for mic suggestions, plugins, anything really.[/quote] Personally, I have a number of methods. For the 'amp' bit, usually a large diaphragm condensor placed about 1-2ft in front of the speaker, slightly off to the side so that the air doesn't blast through the diaphragm and destroy it. Then a dynamic mic right up close to the speaker to get all the thud. Then mix that together with the DI signal. My DI signal is mostly a 'line out' job from my amp head and then through a compression unit (Aguilar TLC Compressor OR DBX160A depending on what I'm after). However, sometimes I don't use an amp at all, in which case it's just Aguilar Tonehammer and Aguilar TLC Compressor straight into the DAW of choice. Although, what usually happens is, I turn up and plug my bass in where the engineer says so and let him do what he does best. It is his/her JOB after all and I'll hold my hands up and accept that they are an engineer for a reason, the same as I'm a player for a reason lol.

[quote name='Protium' post='1040225' date='Nov 28 2010, 06:22 PM']Why? A four string bass with 21 frets covers 4 octaves, well more than is necessary.[/quote] I think that Anthony Jackson's implication is that, by definition a "guitar" has 6 strings, and therefore a "bass guitar" should have six strings at lower pitch than standard guitar. I don't agree with him. Just an interesting take on what a bass should be. Personally, a bass should only exceed 4 strings IF it makes things easier. For example, if it means you do not have to position shift when reading. Other than that, I'd just be happy with standard 4.

This reminds me of Anthony Jackson's bass philosophy; "Why is four the standard and not six? As the lowest-pitched member of the guitar family, the instrument should have had six strings from the beginning. The only reason it had four was because Leo Fender was thinking in application terms of an upright bass, but he built it along guitar lines because that was his training. The logical conception for the bass guitar encompasses six strings."

Depends for me. If I could, I'd do everything on a 4 string. However, after doing a lot of pit work recently, I've found that a 6 string (which I borrowed from a good friend) just makes sightreading tricky parts a lot easier because you remove the problem of position shifting all the time. I've already started saving up the gigging pennies for a custom 6er as a result.

[quote name='earlyman' post='1033271' date='Nov 22 2010, 10:18 PM']Again, I'm not talking about remembering material for performance etc. I'm just asking whether, in a practise/study situation, notating stuff enhances your understanding of something you've learned?[/quote] Depends. If I'm in a practice/rehearsal I'll record the session and then transcribe the lines later before emailing them to myself. Just so I have proof that I wrote them in case of any band fallout/copyright issues

[quote name='JDH' post='1031673' date='Nov 21 2010, 06:42 PM']Great bass lines can only exist inside bass guitar forums - even then, there can be no consensus…[/quote] True. Let's make it a "great nap times" thread instead I had a nap this afternoon after a full sunday's dinner. Bloaty sunday's dinner feeling + nap time with belt/top button loosened off = enjoyable sunday afternoon.

[quote name='bartelby' post='1031635' date='Nov 21 2010, 06:04 PM']I've no idea who that is in his 'tar. [/quote] The "who" is not important... it's the "what"

[quote name='Pete Academy' post='1031619' date='Nov 21 2010, 05:57 PM']Yet again, a perfectly obvious and harmless thread gets criticised. I fully understand it's a generation thing, but I was just asking people to name a song that people would recognise instantly by the bassline alone. ie. Peaches. Judging by the responses there seems to be a lot of songs that are instantly recognisable.[/quote] We should change the thread to "avatars that everyone recognises"... I think we all love yours pete:P

Black... always got to be black (especially with the matching headstock!) But get a black or tort scratchplate. That pearloid one is horrid!

[quote name='silddx' post='1019267' date='Nov 10 2010, 07:50 PM']Tab kinda destroys the point doesn't it? I always found tab to be horrible to learn from anyway.[/quote] I've found that this book is really useful for people who are already regular users of tablature, because in Paul's book, he uses Tab with stems to mark the notation. I've found this makes for an easier transition for people who feel comfortable with tab but want to move into reading notation as they can concentrate on rhythm notation whilst still having tab to mark out the notes/frets. I find this then makes it easier to wean them off tab and then they feel more comfortable when the tab is removed altogether and replaced with notation. I do agree with Doddy though, some students need to have it removed completely early on, or they use it as an easy/lazy option.

[quote name='Muzz' post='1019244' date='Nov 10 2010, 07:38 PM']I think part of the problem is access to the higher end gear to try it - very often people have to buy without trying themselves, perhaps influenced by the opinions of folk on places like this (I know I have), and opinions, as we all know, are like... well, let's just say the only thing you can ultimately trust is your own ears. It's all part of the fun, though. Oh, and I've moved [i]to[/i] a TC head, having, for a change, actually tried one first... [/quote] Is it bad that I actually think NOT trying gear before buying it, makes the whole thing more fun? Especially if you finally try it and it is WAY better than you thought was possible?!

[quote name='JamieBenzies' post='1019221' date='Nov 10 2010, 07:26 PM']In that case sorry for getting so worked up. I may have overreacted but I hope you can see how describing my thoughts as flippant and reckless could be taken as offence, along with all the emphasis. Nice rig by the way - there's something we can see eye to eye with [/quote] Yeah mate, sorry about that. Clearly writing responses in a hurry doesn't make them very friendly :S As for the gear, hell yes I agree. Aggy are #1!

IMO this is the best Bass book for a range of learners; The Bass Bible - Paul Westwood [url="http://www.amazon.com/Bass-Bible-Verlag-Paul-Westwood/dp/3927190675"]http://www.amazon.com/Bass-Bible-Verlag-Pa...d/dp/3927190675[/url] It has CDs to help those who learn by ear, has notation & tab together to help you learn to read (or just read what is written in the way that's best for you) and then has a range of content starting at Motown and groove based stuff (covering key players such as James Jamerson, Stanley Clarke, Chuck Rainey), moving through world music (African, Latin, Middle East, Guinea etc etc) and moving into pieces that help you develop more advanced techniques (such as slap bass, natural harmonics/artifical harmonics/chordal harmonics and Jazz/Progressive lines)

[quote name='JamieBenzies' post='1019193' date='Nov 10 2010, 07:06 PM']I apologise for reflecting on my own experiences and responding to the initial question... If you were to criticize my opinion in a less condescending manner then this might have lead to a beneficial conversation. As it stands however, your valid point is completely overshadowed by your somewhat bigoted input.[/quote] I apologise if you read my post and could only see a condescending tone. I just didn't feel that "reflecting on my own experiences" was producing a very fair and objective representation of such exams. My post was in fact not intented for you, but was intended to offer the OP the positive, factual and objective benefits of exams such as rockschool which were not highlighted in your (and a few other) posts, that is all.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1016814' date='Nov 8 2010, 07:48 PM']I don't have the original version to hand, but is Macca's timing on the fast runs around the 1m mark as flaky as they are in this clip? [/quote] +1, this guy's timing is pretty poor actually.

[quote name='Pete Academy' post='1016836' date='Nov 8 2010, 07:59 PM']Ears are clever things. And they keep your glasses from falling off.[/quote] Nice way of dodging the question Fact is, you know music theory without knowing it if your ear tells you the right notes to play. Would you play the right notes just by ear if you got lumbered in a indian classical orchestra? Unlikely, because you won't understand the [b]theory[/b] that is used by using just your ear, because you haven't been exposed to it in the same wasy as you have with western tonal systems. The same is said of children. If you gave them a small bass/guitar/instrument, they don't play all the "correct" notes and rhythms, they just bash the instrument, because they haven't had enough experience (on ANY level) to understand the theory behind our tonal system (or the way in which you produce sound from the instrument), and then take that theory and apply it appropriately in a musical setting (like you or I can). Fact is, if you can play "correct" notes by ear, then you know the theory behind it on [b]some[/b] level.

[quote name='Pete Academy' post='1016822' date='Nov 8 2010, 07:53 PM']But playing the correct notes doesn't need a knowledge of theory. Your ear should tell you if the notes are wrong.[/quote] How does your ear know what the correct note/s?

[quote name='silddx' post='1016815' date='Nov 8 2010, 07:48 PM']Ah sorry, it's that things like that have actually been said on here about us illiterate folk, I assumed you meant it, I apologise.[/quote] The problem with these types of threads is that they divide bassists! We should unite as bass players and use this destructive energy to rid the world of guitards... We'll just have 6 string basses to fill the void. They would do a better job anyway

[quote name='silddx' post='1016782' date='Nov 8 2010, 07:24 PM']I will try not to descend into profanity, but that statement, if you meant it, is one of the most condescending and arrogant statements I think I've come across on here recently. And it says an enormous amount about your personality and your approach to music. Really disappointing [/quote] Haha. I was just joking. I actually play in a classic rock "originals band" and it's one of the best gigs I have. I'm just trying to highlight how stupid and outrageous most of the posts on here are. If it makes you feel any better, I'd also rather have my ears cheesegrated off than listen to the modal jazz groups (including mine) who would happily play to their guitar neck all night long and play all of the notes in the "wrong" key, just to make themselves look clevererererer. At the end of the day, why don't we all just do what we think is good for us as individuals and stop trying to goad people into arguments about nothing?