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Options jhferret Feb 21 2006, 09:13 PM Post #41 QUOTE(nedsbeds) I know quite a few people who wish they had worn ear plugs earlier in life. Me for one! pitchfork Feb 21 2006, 09:54 PM Post #42 I'll probably wear them if and when i start playing the bigger venues like hammersmith paladium and brixton academy etc. But for now its alright, i play 200-300 people club gigs once in a while but its mostly pubs and bars. nedsbeds Feb 21 2006, 10:01 PM Post #43 I find its mainly in rehearsals that I get ringing in my ears, and where the ear plugs would be of most benefit. you are in an enclosed space so it's gonna be more intense on the ears thumbo Feb 21 2006, 10:18 PM Post #44 I wear ear plugs to all gigs and rehearsals I go to and I don't stare at the sun. I've been using Etymotic ER20s for a while but I want to get some of the custom fit ones. Does anyone have any experience of these? Are they worth it? pitchfork Feb 22 2006, 06:07 PM Post #45 I wouldn't wear them to a gig, ruins the atmosphere and if i mosh ill most probably lose them. thumbo Feb 22 2006, 10:16 PM Post #46 Ruins the atmosphere? That's a bit extreme! I've always found they've made gigs sound better because ear plugs make the harsh volumes more managable for your ear drums. Greene-King Feb 22 2006, 11:18 PM Post #47 I'd strongly endorse what being said here about protecting your hearing. Hearing loss is permanent. I suffer quite badly from high tone deafness. Bass playing is okay but I'm the one in the pub quietly drinking me pint and not joining in any conversations because hearing one voice amongst the background is nearly impossible. A combination of over 35 years of motorcycling, working in ships and submarines and too many Thin Lizzy concerts Peter fatrabbit Feb 23 2006, 09:53 AM Post #48 Get some custom made earplugs... they cost in the region of £100-160, but - i figure that's it's only money, and you only get one pair of ears (once you have tinnitus/hearing loss, there's no fix). My custom fit ER15s (i think they're called) are great... most people comlpain that plugs ruin gig sound.. but I (along with a lot of other people) think they these improve the sound.. you can hear all the instruments much more clearly and attenuates the sound evenly. I think the website is www.hearingprotection.co.uk EDIT: and just a side note : you can definately get permanent tinnitus from just one gig - I know : it happened to me! If you think about it... all this extreme sound (powered by electrical amplification) is only a very recent thing (50 odd years) with levels arguably getting higher and higher. This generation (i'm 19) and the one previous are/have a worrying level of hearing loss/damage. There's still a great stigma surronding protecting your hearing - and unfortunately, most people only realise what great damage they've done only after the fact when it's too late. Garbs Jul 12 2006, 01:20 PM Post #49 How do, Sorry for having to bring up this depressing post but I too would like to emphasise how important it is to protect your hearing. I've been playing in bands for over 12 years now and up until a few weeks back never used earplugs as I always thought it "spoiled" the overall sound. I have never listened to music quietly and need it loud to get the "buzz". I now am paying the price and have bad tinnitus in my left ear - the right ear isn't as bad but I reckon it aint got long left if I don't protect it. I am now wearing Docs Pro Plugs in band practices to prevent any further damage. I have listened to music at ridiculously loud levels through stereo headphones for years and I'm sure that has added to the damage also. Basically, the choice is yours. I took a risk and am now paying for it - it's all self inflicted so I can't complain really but loud music does damage your ears - permanently. Take care. LukeWard2004 Jul 12 2006, 01:46 PM Post #50 I wear my ER20's at every practise, gig and anything that envolves loud music. My Singer and the guitarist for the Natalie band refuses to wear earplugs as he feels it destroys a lot of the "Kick" that comes from the bass and drums, however i would much rather have good ears for music that mean i can enjoy music throughout my life, than have crap hearing. It wasnt until i took just one earplug out in the middle of the practise last night that i realised how loud everything actually was - the ER20'sare excellent plugs and IMHO, the best tenner ive ever spent! Garbs Jul 12 2006, 02:29 PM Post #51 With hindsight very sensible. Since I have started wearing the plugs, I have also noticed how much they block out of the high frequency - which isn't too bad a thing when you play bass (think this has been documented on another thread). Our drummer thrashes the cymbals (no coincedence I stand with my left ear next to the kit - the one that has tinnitus) and it's these type of frequencies which puts your ears at risk. takron Jul 12 2006, 02:38 PM Post #52 I work in a noisy environment and are supposed to wear ear plugs, but a lot of people don't like sticking things in their ears, managements solution, give everyone a set of ear defenders with fm radios inside, so you get to listen to radio 1 or 2 all day, the fact that you cant hear anyone shouting you, anything about to run you over seems to have gone right over their heads! apart from that i get the odd song for the band now and then. Surfinbernard Jul 12 2006, 04:27 PM Post #53 I find that tons of wax builds up after a spate of loudness, gig party etc. It must be a mechanism to protect them from damage. I'm not medical or anything. I've had an ear infection and they are nasty, but I think you would know because there is knitting needle pain and nausea and a temperature and that. Hope you sort it out. Zoe fluter Jul 12 2006, 05:34 PM Post #54 Ouch! I remember that pain, although it happened many years ago. I played with a loud band a week ago, first time I turned my amp past '3'. Luckily my hearing returned to normal after a few hours. The drummer was wearing protection, don't think that was the reason he wasn't playing in time. Must look into the ER20. dood Jul 12 2006, 06:10 PM Post #55 One thing that I think needs to be pointed out, that seems to be overlooked is that ear damage is cumulative. (spelli This means that if you go to band practice and the noise makes your ears ring, that is damage.. When you wake up the following day and the ringing has gone.. that isn't repair, the damage is still there. The next time you go out and make your ears ring is not fresh damage, that is more damage on top of that which you have done already. There comes a point that the delecate parts of your ears start giving in and the damage will be easier to do over time. buying moulded ear plugs has been the best 140 quid I have spent on music gear. it cant repair the damage I have done to my hearing, but I can at least try not to cause any more. oh.. and if you buy the moulded plugs, 'in ear' eaphones plug straight in.. save yourself a fortune in 'name brand' kits, like Shure etc!! jhferret Jul 12 2006, 06:40 PM Post #57 Agree with all of the above, its the drums, or most likely the cymbals, that do the damage. Both non dumming Ferrets have got hearing problems drum side. I've got permenant tinnitus in my right ear and its not fun. If you cant bring yourself to plug both ears then just plug drum side, although I would still recommend plugging both. Must get some of the moulded jobbies. thunderthief_29 Jul 12 2006, 06:48 PM Post #58 I've got a pair of the ER20, which I've had for ages and I must admit, only used once. After reading this thread Im going to start using them. I've got a practise tomorrow night and I'll start using them then. Mike thumbo Jul 12 2006, 07:52 PM Post #59 I had my left ear syringed the other day, what a wierd feeling! It took me a while to get used to how clear everything sounded after that. Mobius Jul 12 2006, 10:05 PM Post #60 I have Obscure Auditory Dysfunction which I got from having glue ear as a child. Basically it means my brain didn't quite learn to filter noise from voices very well, so I can't hear very well if there's loud noise. So bascially I wouldn't really notice if my hearing gets damaged a bit because my brain can't process it properly anyway! I don't bother wearing earplugs. I do get a little bit of ringing after practices sometimes but it goes away after a half an hour or so.

just had a look on stringbusters and they have the ER-20 which are a very reasonable £9.00, heres the link if you missed it in the long post above [url="http://www.stringbusters.com/frameset.asp?...ERSONAL%20CARE/"]http://www.stringbusters.com/frameset.asp?...ERSONAL%20CARE/[/url] if it doesn't go straight to the page just do a search for earplugs

these are copied over, i have simplified it a bit and if anyone doesn't want their post in here then it can be edited out, will try and get the rest of the important stuff over too. mods if this is wrong then feel free to delete. ______________________________________________ chardbass Aug 9 2005, 08:12 PM Post #1 Luke's 'Ear Problems' post got me thinking- anyone got any preferences to the kind of plugs they use? It would make interesting reading- if you don't use plugs- cool- but lets not get into the rights and wrongs. They generally suck, but then so does tinitus. I find that the rubbery plugs that have 3 sections and claim to cut out certain frequencies actually accentuate all those horrible boxy mids i.e. snare drum, and make matters worse. I use the Boots foam fellas for pure ear defence- the problem is, they wipe out all that top end that stops you from bashing the hell out of the strings. Net result- aching wrists and pending RSI. Anyone gone the whole hog and tried the real expensive stuff? dood Aug 10 2005, 12:23 AM Post #2 I have mild tinitus and yes, have gone the whole hog. um, I wrote a really long post a while back about the plugs I bought, but in summary, I went to a hearing specialist who sent me to an Audiologist to have moulds of the inside of my ears made. they send them off to a company like Etymotic/Elacin blah blah who make the moulds into inserts with specific rated filters in them. They REALLY ARE the dogs doo-dahs and are worth the money. I wear them to gigs, I wear them to practice, and when I'm playing. I wont go into rights n wrongs, as above, but I personally (tho young.... ish) HAVE to look after my ears now.. and my back!! ;o) dood Aug 10 2005, 12:24 AM Post #4 [url="http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/erme.aspx"]http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/erme.aspx[/url] here! dood Aug 10 2005, 12:26 AM Post #5 oh.. and I found out that with an adaptor I can plug in pro earphones and make professional in ear monitors at a drastically reduced cost weh hey!! chardbass Aug 10 2005, 12:39 AM Post #7 How much did the plugs set u back if you don't mind me asking Dan? Urb Aug 10 2005, 10:45 AM Post #8 I believ they are about 200 quid - which in the scheme of things is a very small price to pay to keep your hearing - I am planning on getting some of these really soon as well - thers'a palce on Harley Street that makes them. I use those plugs that are sold in drum shops at present - they have three concentric silcone cones that go into your ear - they really cut out the high-frequencies - that do most of the damage and for about 15quid I think they are pretty good - but not as good as the ones molded to your lugs. Watever you do where ear plugs - I have mild tinitus and I am very concerned it doesn't get any worse - I don't have an iPod for that reason alone - earphones do almost more damage in the long term than lots of loud gigs / band practices - that's how Pete Townsend lost his hearing - that and Keith Moon blowing up his drum kit righ next to his left ear! Look after yourself - this ain't no joke. Mike Johnny_BoomBoom Aug 10 2005, 11:29 AM Post #9 Until I can get the proper custom fit moulded jobs, I use ER-20 plugs. These have the 3 concentric section (side on it looks Xmas tree like) and I find them really good. I wear them to gigs, practise and any gigs we perform. They have a flat frequency response which cuts everything by upto 20dB (if you fit them right!). I also am a biker and have had custom fit jobs made for that (not worried about freqnecy response there and they were only £45 at a bike show!!). At 60 mph the noise inside your lid can hit 105dB or more (and that's just wind noise)........so that can do a fair bit of damage as well! lampmeister Aug 10 2005, 12:08 PM Post #10 Anyone know what these are like? [url="http://www.hearingprotection.co.uk/mu001.asp?hd=4"]http://www.hearingprotection.co.uk/mu001.asp?hd=4[/url] Dave. -------------------- Big Ear Location Recording funky_bass_guy Aug 10 2005, 06:10 PM Post #11 QUOTE Until I can get the proper custom fit moulded jobs, I use ER-20 plugs Same here! They sound fairly good there isnt that, is my amp really on when you play high notes with foam earplugs. -------------------- White Lime - www.myspace.com/whitelime Muppet Aug 10 2005, 06:44 PM Post #12 I'm a biker too and use www.ultimateear.com custom moulded plugs. Urb Aug 10 2005, 07:47 PM Post #13 QUOTE(Johnny_BoomBoom) Until I can get the proper custom fit moulded jobs, I use ER-20 plugs. These have the 3 concentric section (side on it looks Xmas tree like) and I find them really good. Those are the ones I use - I just didn't know the exact name - they really are good and you can still hear enough to actually feel you're still part of the band - not like you have your head in a load oif cotton wool - i.e. like the foam ones make you feel. I often think when I get some of those designer ones that I'll actrually wear them on the tube here in London - as sometimes the screeches and scrapes on some parts of the Victoria line are seriously f-ing loud! Anyway - protect your ears - young folks 'listen' to us older and deafer bassists - it's serious business! M chardbass Aug 10 2005, 07:56 PM Post #14 Pardon? dood Aug 10 2005, 08:40 PM Post #15 QUOTE(chardbass) How much did the plugs set u back if you don't mind me asking Dan? £160 inc p&p/vat etc dood Aug 10 2005, 08:42 PM Post #16 QUOTE(lampmeister) Anyone know what these are like? [url="http://www.hearingprotection.co.uk/mu001.asp?hd=4"]http://www.hearingprotection.co.uk/mu001.asp?hd=4[/url] Dave. under musicians, anything prefixed with ER is pretty much gonna be Etymotic Research. They are the people that make the filters themselves. There are many companies 'out there' making the moulds and supplying ER products (ER also go under the names Elacin and HEROS). I went thro' www.adcomservices.co.uk who were excellent. dood Aug 10 2005, 08:44 PM Post #17 oh, generally, the ER20 are the premoulded sorts you can pick up for between 9 quid and 15, whereas the ER9 ER15 and ER25 model numbers, refer to the filters for the one you get moulded to your ears. LukeWard2004 Aug 11 2005, 10:12 AM Post #18 Besides my ear problems, i usually use Etymotic Research ER-20's, they are quite good considering they cost bugger all. Im only 20, and i find im the only one in my band to wear Earplugs at all, barring our drummer. Our drummer uses In Ear monitors to listen to his Click track, and the monitors block out all external noise so he is normally tinitus free after a practise. My Singer doesnt wear earplugs as he says he can never really hear what he is singing properly and he feels too "Away" from the show. Our Guitarist is the same. I think im going to invest in some moulded plugs in the future... funky_bass_guy Aug 11 2005, 10:50 AM Post #19 Im the only one in my band who wears them too. brycebites Aug 11 2005, 11:08 AM Post #20 And me. Does being half the age of the next youngest member make a difference? :? Options LukeWard2004 Aug 11 2005, 11:29 AM Post #21 Well i guess it may be the ignorance of youth, although i am the youngest....Im 20, my guitarist is 21, drummer 20, and singer is 23. homerplaysbass Aug 11 2005, 11:52 AM Post #22 You should protect your ears - period. Damage occurs gradually and often unnoticed until you become an old git like me and you have trouble hearing the television etc. Take it from me, I have mild tinnitus and it's not funny, and what's worse is, I don't hear low frequencies too well now so I can't wear earplugs, if I do, I have trouble hearing my bass in a band situation. This came to light when sound checking where I have to rely on others to help me set my volume 'cos if it's left to me, I always set it way too high but it sounds quiet to me. dood Aug 11 2005, 06:24 PM Post #23 QUOTE(homerplaysbass) This came to light when sound checking where I have to rely on others to help me set my volume 'cos if it's left to me, I always set it way too high but it sounds quiet to me. no, i think you infact are hearing things just fine mate .. it's those bloody guitarist who winge like babies when they cant hear their Newfangledo Turbo Gazzilion Watt 64x12 Enormo Stack. The bass player usually gets moaned at he hehe ! homerplaysbass Aug 11 2005, 06:30 PM Post #24 QUOTE no, i think you infact are hearing things just fine mate .. it's those bloody guitarist who winge like babies when they cant hear their Newfangledo Turbo Gazzilion Watt 64x12 Enormo Stack. The bass player usually gets moaned at he hehe ! Bastards! I knew they were up to something surelybassie Aug 20 2005, 11:25 PM Post #25 I suffer from tinitus (both ears) and noticable high frequency loss of hearing in my right ear. I just recently paid £180 for a pair of ER 15's. I wish they'd been around 30years ago. They're great when I remember to pack them, or even find them. Last time I lost them they turned up in the pocket of my best black trousers, not the obvious place to look when one is dashing out to a blues / rock gig! I have used the much cheaper (about £6.99) hearplugs from allearplugs.com, they are better than nothing, and are worth keeping as spares in your gig bag. But did you know, volume controls do turn anticlockwise! The only prob is most drummers do not have volume controls and I think most of the damage to my hearing has been caused by close proximity to snare drums and cymbals. Beware, one G.P. told me there were only two cures for tinitus, total deafness by surgical operation, or suicide! So if you can't avoid being within earshot of that rimshot or other high level sound source, get plugged! dtbmx Aug 20 2005, 11:41 PM Post #26 i dont know about wearing them for gigs, but they sure come in use when you are getting a rollocking of your mom for not enjoying shopping lol peted Aug 21 2005, 09:06 AM Post #27 Is it just me or do all bassists always get the short straw and have to stand right next to the cymbals at a band practice. My wife is always moaning that i'm not listening to her but all I hear is mMMGMM GMMmhhmm Mhhg (everything is a bit muffled). Luckily my range is still OK I just have to lip read a little. I now use Doc's Pro Plugs that I got from Sound Control [url="http://www.proplugs.com/"]http://www.proplugs.com/[/url]. They seem to do a good job at cutting out those horrible cymbals and snare. On the plus side it actually makes my bass louder so I don't have to compete with the guitarist. I can happily have my amp at a low volume and still hear it through to mix with my plugs in. I use the vented version and as you can see: They let in all of the frequencies that i'm producing and dampen the rest. jonc Aug 29 2005, 07:28 PM Post #28 I'm looking to go the whole hog, earplug wise that is and want to get a pair of the ER-15s. Does anybody have any contact details for places in london where I can get started? Much appreciated pitchfork Feb 20 2006, 08:09 PM Post #29 Hey guys i think i might be going deaf in one ear. I've noticed this feeling like i've got something stuck in my ear (i know there isn't because i haven't put anything in there) and then my hearing is muffled as well. Could it just be an ear infection or is it something worse. fragility Feb 20 2006, 08:18 PM Post #30 Definately go to the doctors! Could be anything from a build up of wax and you'll just need it syringing, all the way to something serious, get it checked out! pitchfork Feb 20 2006, 08:30 PM Post #31 Will do, have to make an appointment tomorow. dood Feb 20 2006, 08:32 PM Post #32 Fragility is sopt on.. I have had exactly the same thing, but your hearing is important, the doc' is the best bet! ;o) oh, and syringing is great! .. but I am wierd.. it's like a mini jet wash!! (there are no needles involved. jhferret Feb 20 2006, 09:12 PM Post #33 Apart from the Doctor we are not doctors so its best get it checked out. Aquired Hearing Loss is sometimes accompanied by permenant tinnitus. It is usually more common in the ear closest to the drummer. All the guys in my band have it, but the drummer says his is the ear closest to the bass (dont know what he means:-) Drpepper99uk Feb 20 2006, 09:34 PM Post #34 Hello, Like others have said it's best you go and see a doctor regarding your problem,it might just be a build up of wax or it could be a certain degree of hearing loss.I myself use special acoustic ear plugs when playing: [url="http://www.stringbusters.com/frameset.asp?...ERSONAL%20CARE/"]http://www.stringbusters.com/frameset.asp?...ERSONAL%20CARE/[/url] If you reason to suspect this problem is due to over exposure to loud music then I'd seriously take heed and at least turn down the levels you play at, or try the above product. They are very good in loud band situations,and they don't muffle your sound like normal industrial foam earplugs do,especially in the bass frequency department.As a lot of people have said,once your hearing has gone,it's gone for good. Michael. Tim73 Feb 20 2006, 09:46 PM Post #35 I think Fragility is probably spot on with the wax build up... no shame there, just remember to turn the volume down on your ipod when leaving the Doctors having been syringed! For what it's worth, I think we all worry about our hearing. My Dad was a session drummer in the 60s & his hearing is totally shot. He has a hearing aid & lip-reads (but pretends he's not when caught). Most musicians I know are okay hearing wise but still worry. I had a hearing test a few years ago for work & I was in the exceptional bracket - ironic because I was convinced I would be in the danger zone. My wife has picked up on my selective hearing though! Get it checked for piece of mind... Don't half sound like a minor blockage. Get some Ear drops now though because the nurse won't syringe until you have been sticking those in for a few days. J_K Feb 20 2006, 11:58 PM Post #36 QUOTE(Drpepper99uk) [url="http://www.stringbusters.com/frameset.asp?...ERSONAL%20CARE/"]http://www.stringbusters.com/frameset.asp?...ERSONAL%20CARE/[/url] You absolute gem!! I've been looking for some of these!! didn't know what they were called though RichardH Feb 21 2006, 09:39 AM Post #37 I use a branded version of these (www.dontlosethemusic.com), and must admit I think they do knock the top end off the sound - which is a bit of a pain when watching gigs, as you end up feeling a bit disassociated from the performance. Apart from that, they do a great job though. pitchfork Feb 21 2006, 10:29 AM Post #38 Aye i've heard about that syrninging (excuse the pun) apparently you can hear your footsteps walking home sounds like a plan. I doubt I need the earplugs except for going to see bands, the sort of places we play you wouldn't hear the sound with earplugs in. Rich Feb 21 2006, 10:52 AM Post #39 Hey, the ER-20s are getting cheaper! I've been using them for years and they're great. I think the thing about knocking off some of the top end is the whole point -- AFAIK that it's loud high-frequency spikes (e.g. cymbals) that do the most harm. Open to correction, of course. nedsbeds Feb 21 2006, 01:13 PM Post #40 Get to try out my new toys tomorrow. My new warwick and my new ear plugs! seems kind of daft I spent 1100 on a new bass to make noise, and then spend money on making myself less able to hear it hehe. Deffinately a good idea though. I know quite a few people who wish they had worn ear plugs earlier in life.

totally agree chris but at the moment i am skint so i am going to have to compromise for a while till i can get the money together for some top notch ones, so any suggestions for us hard up bassits would be useful along with the custom jobbies.

[quote name='phatmonkey' post='4298' date='May 22 2007, 01:21 PM']Might be sensible to copy over the important bits of the sticky.[/quote] would you like me to do that or is it a moderator thing?

we run our own, we have a 600watt PA with a 6 channel desk 2PA speakers and 2 100watt stage monitors (could do with bigger ones or a few more). The guitarist does have a 16channel desk but is a bit lothe to use it as he doesn't have a hardcase for it, bit daft cos it would solve some of the mic'ing problems btu i can see where he's coming from, also have a graphic and effects rack which the vocals go through. Our guitarist does the sound and he really does seem to know what he's doing so we leave it to him. Bit of pain luggin it around but then at least we know what we are using.

well first time after practice last night my left ear was really hurting, still is to be honest so i think now is the time to do something about it (might be a bit late but better than not at all) seeing as my amp is now really chucking out the volume. so is it possible to pull over the sticky from the last forum or shall we just start afresh. recommendations

hmmm, very good idea indeed

other Ibanez Soundgear SR500 (06 version) warm sleek punchy lovelyness

checked this out on my rig last night. with the bass volume on full i really had to back the input (gain) off to get a clean signal but i could get a clean signal by backing the volume on the bass off only a little as it seems to ramp very quickly over the last 10% (gets alot of hiss too). Doing this ment i could get alot more volume out of the amp than before and the tone was much improved also the input on the amp could go alot higher. like martthebass i never really thought about the bass output and always ran the bass volume on full but backing it off worked wonders, certainly opened my eyes and the bands as i actually had to turn my volume down as it was drowning out the guitarists

Elixirs, very clear, love em

awww, i'm getting jealouys cos that is exactly what my ray looked like except mine had the mutes on it (and pickup in normal position), truely gorgeous bass, anyone care to swap for a sr500, nah didn't think so. going to go an reminiss over my old baby, how i miss her so. you are one lucky git machines

+1 top player we have just added crazy little thing to our set and it goes down real well, fairly easy to play but written so well it makes you look good went and saw we will rock you a few months back and i noticed the bass alot more than on the recordings and it truely is well suited to each song.

has someone been playing with the photoshop lense flare filtre?

anyone know why the sound on some of this comes out like an octave lower than it should? (not sure if its an actual octave just sound lower but not slower sounds real odd)

the rigor mortis thing i got at the first gig i did, didn't want to mention it as it could of happened just becasue it was put in your head, though it happened anyway. but the best thing is you worked round it and they it all fell in to palce. good work and it just gets better now

nothing special really, ashdown 210 and an ibanez sr500 ( like i've not said that elsewhere ), i like em and they're my babies

thanks again, i'll give it a try tomorrow night at practice and see what happens and let you know

just to help the comparison i've just aquired an ashdown mag210 combo and i have to be very careful with the settings compared to the peavey max combo i was using with my ibanez sr500, the peavey i could run pretty much flat out and roll off the bass a little and and it was fine the ashdown just seems more sensitive so it takes a bit more messing with the eq (also the input level is effected by the eq stage on the ashdowns so with high eq settings the input dial needs to be backed off). certainly have to check to see if my kids have messed with the eq before turning on. and my sr500 seems to pump out alot ot low end when biasing the to the neck pup so the eq has to change and could never get the peavey to sound good on the neck pup where as the ashdown handles it. maybe some amps need more fettling with ceratin basses.

cheers guys, puts my mind at rest. and yeah merton i totally agreee and want a second cab but don't want my wife to make anice necklace of me nuts right now, and we already have another lower powered combo that i used to gig with, it might help with the sound it might not but just wanted to ask before making things go boom!

+1 on enjoy it. i went through this last year having not played a gig in something like 15 years. and we recently played our fist 'home' gig which i found i worried about more because it was infront of friends and family, but i shouldn't of worried, everyone loved it, no-one noticed any mistakes and that included us muffing some songs right up. go out enjoy it and everyone else will and it'll all fall into place

i'vs seen my guitarist do it with 2 guitar amps and slave them together, you plug your guitar into one and then send out to the input on the next amp (not from the extension on the back of the first though but from the tuner out or the effects loop out). So is this possible with a bass combo? what would happen or could happen if you did this so is it wise? if it is ok whats the best way. would be a simple way of boosting my setup as we have another bass combo that i was using that had a fair bit of low end but didn't cut in the mix wellso would add low end to my amp that cuts beautifully. or should i just get a slap in the face

was curious if anyone knows the exact specs of the speakers used in the mags and in the abm range as i beleive they are both different and was wondering what they are rated at. cheers for any help

[quote name='David Nimrod' post='553' date='May 17 2007, 05:03 PM'][attachment=40:IMG_0008.jpg][/quote] nice rig nimrod, would you mid shareing your settings as i have an ashdown too, a mag mind, and an ibanez sr500 think yours is the 1000. but would imagine the output of yours to be fairly similar. just playing around with my settigns at the mo.

ok, feeling brave hope you are, one you might have seen and one you haven't. need to get some better photos but they havent surfaced yet from our last gig, so either they didn't come out or boots refused to print them need to try to get my fixation with my feet changed to something else