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Loving the niche audience for this bass - Yes tribute band with left-handed Squire-alike. Yes it is a bit of an ugly-spud but a Pup in the 70's I was awe-inspired when CS whipped out the original!

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1360785426' post='1976578'] I'm not knocking him , but he is what he is . It's not his fault that people who don't know better herald him as a great player when he is not . He's a quite-good -in certain -respects player who plays an awful lot of notes . He has always struck me as a very decent , honest and self-effacing guy . He can't be held responsible for some of the wild claims other people make on his behalf . The fact remains that he isn't one of the all- time greats , as some people seem to think he is . He isn't even as good at slapping as a whole host of lesser known sidemen I could mention . [/quote] Hmmm a bit disingenuous Dingus.... 'quite good'!? I can't agree. Even if you don't like the songs, his fingerstyle lines and harmonies are really clever and funky. And as for the slap - whoa he really invented that whole left hand slap 16th chug which Larry, Louis, Marcus and Stanley didn't do. I thinky you're talking nonsense and being provocative for the sake of it. But hey let's go with it... given he's not as good as these lesser known sidemen, who are they?

Well you're lucky - you've got to kiss a lot of frogs to find a princess!

[quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1359677872' post='1958861'] This is fantastic. Why have I never heard of this band before? [/quote] 'Cause it's the usual arpeggiated math-rock fayre that anyone not on the autism spectrum would ignore as a stuck-CD.

[quote name='4000' timestamp='1231276118' post='372429'] Stanley Clarke (a 4000) [/quote] Quite so: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lFP-alYNq5I"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lFP-alYNq5I[/url]

Maggie Philbin - Brown Sauce http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLczkW0vR9U

Continuing the Stanely Clarke theme, I'd recommend Return to Forever's 'No Mystery' which is their funk album. It's my least favourite of theirs but fits your requirements of jazz-funk, moog and stack heels (probably in Al Di Meola's case). My favourite track on it is the title track but that too, like the album is a mixed bag, featuring one of Chick's best heads but an excruciating bowed bass solo which I can't stand to listen too - which is odd 'cause I normally love Stanley's electric/acoustic tone and playing.

[quote name='ikay' timestamp='1359231424' post='1952035'] The Fodera Hollowbody caught my attention [attachment=126080:Fodera Hollowbody.jpg] [/quote] That's not gonna be cheap! Wonder how it sounds? Wonder what it's for? Wonder if Anthony Jackson will be able to get his arms around it? Is there a role for such a beast between an electric, EUB and an acoustic?

Saw Wayne Krantz with Steely Dan years ago at Wembley Arena with Tom Barney on bass. The group took a little while to get going but then settled into an awesome groove for the rest of the set. WK was a little muzzled though. I saw his trio with Tim [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Lefebvre and Keith Carlock on drums in the Band on the Wall in Manchester - 15 people in the audience and boy did they stretch out! WK really working that textual way playing with his effects. Spoke to Tim after who showed real disdain for the chops-orientated jazz of the time - singling out Marcus for playing the same old stuff. He had a gorgeous sunburst P which he played almost all above the 12th fret but mostly on the 'E' and 'A' strings to get a real dubby sound.[/font][/color]

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1358533607' post='1941090'] People who can't play mostly sound approximately the same . [/quote] And Fodera-wielding MI graduates channeling Jeff Berlin approved chord-tones transcribed from 50-year old standards and Gary Willis' technique don't!

Try Cakewalk Music Creator. You can get it new for £35ish or older versions are cheaper. It has a good score editor with multiple clefs and its not a bad entry level sequencer for playing your bass into and recording. (You'll need an audio interface for a good signal for that if its something you want to do but that can come later.) The sequencer (and soft synths) it comes with means you can set up practise tracks with drums too. Main negative is that it doesn't notate slap very well as this needs quite specific dynamic markngs for left-hand slaps, etc but for most music stave reading and writing its great.

Where does the Alembic Essence figure? If it all other than in vids?

Heard it on R6 this evening - didn't know who it was... but hair stood up on arms. Great song and performance... He lived every word. Amazing. (Also some great bass, which I find out is the awesome TL.... it just gets better...)

[quote name='4 Strings' timestamp='1357401065' post='1922130'] Shouldn't we all be getting on with some serious study and practice rather than spending our time and money concerning ourselves so deeply with minutiae of guitar/amp/speaker construction? [/quote] Definitely! But to your point, it's a bit of both really - Macca's musical note choices on a Hofner, Entwistle's gnarly blues runs on his Alembic, Squire's melodic parts on a clanky Rick, Stanley's snapped melodies on his Alembic and Jaco's back pick-up 16th note funk or his woody singing fretless Jazz bass. I think the best players have their own vocabulary enhanced by a distinctive voice from their bass/gear.

Squire / Bruford Clarke / White Patitucci / Weckl Lee / Peart ... not sure who's Jaco's best drummer was?

As dilemmas go, that's got to be up there with salted or buttered pop-corn. That said, strings are a whole heap of mystery... you mention the design, but there's a whole of other parameters (gauge, scale, material, core design, bridge presentation)... to me the most mysterious being tension and flexibility. Try lots... or better still, play other basses and identify the strings... I'd recommend Rotosound round-wounds as your reference set from which to explore... (medium gauge if you're into more 'modern' styles, standard, i.e. heavy if you're more 'traditional').

I'm not sure about the logic of what's being suggested. It's simply not good business sense to acquire a company simply to shut them down unless the company is sold for peanuts - it's a complete waste of money and a bad investment. Sure you'd seek to out sell a competitor and maximise your market but the only reason you'd acquire them is for their brand (as an ongoing business) or assets. I can only presume that if the former, Kaman thought that they could continue to successfully produce the Hamer line alongside the Gibson range. Trouble is, they always tinker (sorry streamline) production, cut costs and 'improve quality' effectively stripping the mojo from semi-hand made products like the aforementioned TE, SWR and Tobias, etc.

Amazing player... does the 'Jaco' thing very well whilst still injecting his own personality... Plus it's a great tune.. That blue bass sounds great.. Anyone know what it is? Valley Arts?

Never seen one but it looks really nice.... production mod'ed Precision with blocks and in Sea Foam! Gorgeous... Hope it sounds and plays as well as it looks. P.s. This post should probably have gone under 'Bass Guitars' as this discussion group is mainly for Rush, why slapping is bad and why Denmark St. should be nuked...

Roundabout - Chris Squire, Yes Used to be a Cha Cha - Jaco Pursuit of Accidents - Mark King, Level 42 Medieval Overture - Stanley Clarke, RTF

Having tried a couple of Alembics before going Goodfellow, I'd agree with the previous poster. Some of them look lovely and have a great tone but they have a very 'individual' feel and control layout which is quirky. Weirdly as well as being heavy, they're surprisingly thin in the flesh which is disconcerting if you're comfortable with a thicker-bodied bass. Check the stand-up position balance too as they're notoriously neck heavy (depending on shape). Cost aside... I'd play one and decide with your ears and fingers...

Snarky-pup!

Chris Squire - tone, melody & musicality

Some good tips & suggestions in this thread... I'd add stay hydrated - for the brain and fingers and, another obscure one to consider, keep your hands/fingers flat or at least not under tension whilst sleeping - easier said than done...

Yes (oh wait, I remember Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe) scratch that then... How about the Beatles? Police?