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[quote name='Ancient Mariner' post='739186' date='Feb 8 2010, 05:51 PM']El Maya here for £200 with only an hour or so on it:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130363782064&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT[/url]

I'd absolutely love it (had an El Maya guitar in the early 80s and it was fantastic) but no mun mun right now.[/quote]

I think £200 start's a bit steep for that, been watching it just to see if anyone would.

Worth pointing out, it's a Maya, not an El Maya. The two brands were owned by the same company (Rokkomann) but El Maya was the upmarket iteration while Maya was somewhat more cheap & cheerful - for example this one is sporting big black oversprays on the contours, which is usually an indication of ply construction. It's a nice bass but I'd say £150 would be much more realistic.

J.

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='739236' date='Feb 8 2010, 06:38 PM']I think £200 start's a bit steep for that, been watching it just to see if anyone would.

Worth pointing out, it's a Maya, not an El Maya. The two brands were owned by the same company (Rokkomann) but El Maya was the upmarket iteration while Maya was somewhat more cheap & cheerful - for example this one is sporting big black oversprays on the contours, which is usually an indication of ply construction. It's a nice bass but I'd say £150 would be much more realistic.

J.[/quote]

Well spotted that man - and thanks for pointing out the difference.

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One of the nicest JapCrap J copies in a while:

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320488376671"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=320488376671[/url]

It's our old mucker Zerofret again, as usual has some good gear but not very informed descriptions. This is a Matsumoku (check the neckplate) therefore nothing to do with Ibanez / Hoshino (who never had a factory), and is mid 70s - a nice accurate copy with a solid timber body & nice hardware.

Also a bit of a rarity in these parts - Luxor was a pretty low-profile US brand.

J.

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TSB 350 "Thor Sound". [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aria-PRO-II-TSB-350-THOR-SOUND-Bass-MIJ-JAPAN-MATSUMOKO_W0QQitemZ120531372517QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item1c103ac9e5"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aria-PRO-II-TSB-350-...=item1c103ac9e5[/url]

£239 start price. No bids as of right now.

SB-900 "Super Bass".

I don't really know the going prices for things yet, but isn't £325 a reasonable starting price for this?

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aria-SB900-PRO-2-BASS_W0QQitemZ180469225101QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item2a04cdd68d"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aria-SB900-PRO-2-BAS...=item2a04cdd68d[/url]

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I do like the TSBs - hardly ever see them though.

I think with the SB900 we're looking at Ebay psychology here - £325 would be a pretty good deal as a finish price but is a high start, so no-one's going to want to be first on the dancefloor until a lot closer to the end of the auction. 99p no reserve FTW. And the bids. :)

Meanwhile, [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230435817631"]this[/url] is gorgeous, but waaaay too dear.

J.

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Ibby RB750 Roadstar II, on Edinburgh Glumtree:

[url="http://edinburgh.gumtree.com/edinburgh/84/54071984.html"]http://edinburgh.gumtree.com/edinburgh/84/54071984.html[/url]

Classic 80s black-with-red-binding at a very reasonable (and haggle-able) 200 sovs.

If I had the readies, the room & the reason, I most certainly would. Ow.

J.

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[quote name='Jerry_B' post='747476' date='Feb 16 2010, 05:15 PM']Did the Thor have a similar pup to the Westone Spectrum DX? I ask as I have the latter and it's pup looks very similar to the former's...[/quote]

Might well be... Westone called theirs a "MagnaBass II" & Aria referred to [i]theirs[/i] as an MBII. Hmmm........

The casing is different however. My TSB-400:



I modded the bridge p/up with extra pole pieces, but the neck is still stock.

Pete

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='751441' date='Feb 19 2010, 10:47 PM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ARIA-PRO-2-SB900-BASS-EARLY-80S-MADE-IN-JAPAN_W0QQitemZ120533478455"]APII SB900 for £325 BIN[/url]

Which I think qualifies as something of a bargain for one of these, ne c'est pas?

J.[/quote]

It certainly is (although it [i]is[/i] rather tatty, modded & that crack worries me a bit - beautiful body grain though), & what a surprise... It's sold!

Anyone round these parts bag it?

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' post='752181' date='Feb 20 2010, 08:35 PM']This is not the most informative ebay listing I've ever seen. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-String-Aria-pro-II-Bass-Guitar_W0QQitemZ170448938437QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item27af8c65c5"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-String-Aria-pro-II...=item27af8c65c5[/url][/quote]

Hmmmm.... "Buyer must uplift" eh? Interesting turn of phrase, but my ScamAlarm has failed to go off (unless the seller is Maddude16 in disguise!)

I see that the Patent No. is quoted, which might make it interesting. 3 strings? That could just be the super-rare "Blugrass" Series!

I do wonder at times why people bother.

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Well, that's not far up the road from me, don't think it's a scam (collection/cash only) and I'm slightly interested because on the whole, basses in (presumably hard) cases with the clasps off, are usually quite old.

He's answered a question by saying it's an "Aria pro II custom body part No 555719" - that number ring any bells, Mr Bloodaxe?

J.

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i think it will be one of the older ones with the wee writing in the middle of the headstock. otherwise he would have said what it said on the headstock if it had the model written on it.
an SB?

All I know is if i had a ebay account i would probably looking to see how much a youngpersons cheap return to cowdenbeath would cost me... :)

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='752227' date='Feb 20 2010, 09:15 PM']Well, that's not far up the road from me, don't think it's a scam (collection/cash only) and I'm slightly interested because on the whole, basses in (presumably hard) cases with the clasps off, are usually quite old.

He's answered a question by saying it's an "Aria pro II custom body part No 555719" - that number ring any bells, Mr Bloodaxe?

J.[/quote]

That's the patent number in the "paragraph" on those with 2+2 headstocks.

Full text reads:

"Designed & Approved by H. Noble
Original Custom Body P. No. 555179
A Product of Matsumoku 4.11. N.M."

There's another variant that goes:

"Specially Designed & Approved By
ARIA Research & Development LAB
Original Custom Body Pat. No. 555719"

And finally...

"(Model Name)
Original Custom Body Pat. No. 555179"

Probably others, but the first one is the most common.

Pete

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[quote name='LukeFRC' post='752253' date='Feb 20 2010, 09:40 PM']i think it will be mint. go and get it jon, i'm a wee bit jealous! :)

mint as in good, not as in mint condition[/quote]

I reckon so too...

If it was a Cardinal, Thor or Lazer then surely the seller would have put it in the listing as the headstock's so clearly labelled.

The SB & Elites tend to be rather enigmatic though.

Ask the seller if the body is all stripey & what the S/No is - if it starts with a 0, 1, or 2...

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[quote name='Bassassin' post='752227' date='Feb 20 2010, 09:15 PM']"Aria pro II custom body part No 555719" - that number ring any bells ... ?[/quote]

[quote name='Bloodaxe' post='752246' date='Feb 20 2010, 09:39 PM']That's the patent number in the "paragraph" on those with 2+2 headstocks.

Full text reads:

"Designed & Approved by H. Noble
Original Custom Body P. No. 555179
A Product of Matsumoku 4.11. N.M."

There's another variant that goes:

"Specially Designed & Approved By
ARIA Research & Development LAB
Original Custom Body Pat. No. 555719"

And finally...

"(Model Name)
Original Custom Body Pat. No. 555179"

Probably others, but the first one is the most common.[/quote]

Technically speaking it's a patent number. In fact, more correctly, it's the design registration number for the headstock, and can be found on all APII models with the "bat wing" and "open book" headstock designs - guitar, bass, and anything else Aria were producing - although units manufactured outside of Japan don’t always feature the text.

Of the graphs quoted, the first was in service for the shortest period of time, the second the longest. As for the third, that's one that I've not previously seen. (I'm suspicious that if it's only to be found in publish materials that it's, perhaps, a typo. I could be wrong.)

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