What are your irrational prejudices? I have some bonkers ones...

[Stub Mandrel]

55 minutes ago, AinsleyWalker said:

on electric basses they have been almost solely cosmetic (Jazz bass) or to hide routing (P bass).

 

Exactly... many are cosmetic- TZ's routing only claim doesn't stack up. Egen if you don't like them they aren't all there to cover routing.

Edited 6 hours ago by Stub Mandrel

[tauzero]

1 hour ago, Stub Mandrel said:

Exactly... many are cosmetic- TZ's routing only claim doesn't stack up. Egen if you don't like them they aren't all there to cover routing.

 

OK, they're either there to cover routing or to try to make it look like your bass was made on the cheap by pretending they're covering routing. They're still an affront to, well, everything.

[spencer.b]

I know it's irrational and it's all down to personal taste and I know I'm the d!CK here but this is s safe space right?

Custom colour fender basses should have white/mint guards , look in the books , nearly all white guards , why oh why do people put tort on them, sunburst, yeah tort of course, Olympic white beautiful, fiesta red OK I'll let it pass there is the odd one (although more than likely a sunburst bass refinished by the distributor like selmer or kitchens to order when new) but Daphne Blue , all wrong .Candy Apple Red are you f***!ng serious, Shoreline gold, I feel sick 

Apart from looking all wrong the celluloid tort is really hard to replicate unless you drop a fortune on a spitfire, why oh why do fender put awful cheap looking tort guards on custom shop custom colour basses , with an aged mint guard you'd have to get close to tell it wasn't the real thing with a tort one it catches my eye a mile off

Sorry everyone!

(I must admit I'm part of the problem here, I too am complicit in the production of illegal fenders, one of my 5 p basses  is a surf green Custom Shop which has a 10 hole gold anodised,all wrong , what were fender thinking, it would look the nuts with white/mint and with the period correct bevel , oof , but can I find a 10 hole mint guard , can I f***!!)

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by spencer.b

[Jack]

Same. Tort looks great, when it looks great. Sunburst, black, white. They're pretty much the only finishes that work IMO. It's like wearing tan leather loafers with a tracksuit, both of which are sensible fashion choices in the right circumstances but those circumstances should never align. 

[MichaelDean]

6 minutes ago, spencer.b said:

I know it's irrational and it's all down to personal taste and I know I'm the d!CK here but this is s safe space right?

Custom colour fender basses should have white/mint guards , look in the books , nearly all white guards , why oh why do people put tort on them, sunburst, yeah tort of course, Olympic white beautiful, fiesta red OK I'll let it pass there is the odd one (although more than likely a sunburst bass refinished by the distributor like selmer or kitchens to order when new) but Daphne Blue , all wrong . Shoreline gold, I feel sick 

Apart from looking all wrong the celluloid tort is really hard to replicate unless you drop a fortune on a spitfire, why oh why do fender put awful cheap looking tort guards on custom shop custom colour basses , with an aged mint guard you'd have to get close to tell it wasn't the real thing with a tort one it catches my eye a mile off

Sorry everyone!

I'm the opposite. White/mint guards are very rarely acceptible to me! They remind me of cheap starter basses from when I started. Black is generallly my preference. Never had a tort, but I wouldn't say no if a bass I wanted had one.

[Stub Mandrel]

4 minutes ago, Jack said:

It's like wearing tan leather loafers with a tracksuit, both of which are sensible fashion choices in the right circumstances

 

Ok I can see a case for a tracksuit if competing at an athletics event, but tan leather loafers? 

[spencer.b]

30 minutes ago, MichaelDean said:

I'm the opposite. White/mint guards are very rarely acceptible to me! They remind me of cheap starter basses from when I started. Black is generallly my preference. Never had a tort, but I wouldn't say no if a bass I wanted had one.

 One of my p basses is JV in black with white guard and it does look a bit Argos tbf

Edited 3 hours ago by spencer.b

[Chienmortbb]

Jazz basses, always look like the plate really wanted a Stratocaster. 

[Chienmortbb]

1 minute ago, spencer.b said:

 One of my p basses is JV in black with white guard and it does look a bit Argos tbf

My Kala U Bass is black with white guard and it is a common thing online for people wanting to change it. 

[snorkie635]

Tort, white, black, gold aluminium - you pays your money and takes your choice. Some folks will love some of these and others will hate them.

[Misdee]

25 minutes ago, snorkie635 said:

Tort, white, black, gold aluminium - you pays your money and takes your choice. Some folks will love some of these and others will hate them.

I approve of those choices, except for the sunburst/black combo. Mid-to-late '70's Fender is a rational prejudice as far as I am concerned. I hope you didn't pay a lot of money for it!😄

 

If you like I could be really annoying and regail you with what I could have bought that bass for back in the eighties (£200 tops).

 

 Myself, I can't abide red basses with tort guards. It's too much redness, like it wants to give me heartburn.

Edited 1 hour ago by Misdee

[snorkie635]

13 minutes ago, Misdee said:

I approve of those choices, except for the sunburst/black combo. Mid-to-late '70's Fender is a rational prejudice as far as I am concerned. I hope you didn't pay a lot of money for it!😄

 

If you like I could be really annoying and regail you with what I could have bought that bass for back in the eighties (£200 tops).

 

 Myself, I can't abide red basses with tort guards. It's too much redness, like it wants to give me heartburn.

What I bought my house for in the 70s, makes grown men cry. 😎

[prowla]

2 hours ago, spencer.b said:

I know it's irrational and it's all down to personal taste and I know I'm the d!CK here but this is s safe space right?

Custom colour fender basses should have white/mint guards , look in the books , nearly all white guards , why oh why do people put tort on them, sunburst, yeah tort of course, Olympic white beautiful, fiesta red OK I'll let it pass there is the odd one (although more than likely a sunburst bass refinished by the distributor like selmer or kitchens to order when new) but Daphne Blue , all wrong .Candy Apple Red are you f***!ng serious, Shoreline gold, I feel sick 

Apart from looking all wrong the celluloid tort is really hard to replicate unless you drop a fortune on a spitfire, why oh why do fender put awful cheap looking tort guards on custom shop custom colour basses , with an aged mint guard you'd have to get close to tell it wasn't the real thing with a tort one it catches my eye a mile off

Sorry everyone!

It's torture, I tell you!

[Misdee]

People put tort plates on just about any Fender colour now because it's become synonymous with the nebulous concept which is "vintage". 

 

Historically, Fender  did indeed ship most of its custom colour basses with mint/parchment pick guards. Bear in mind that most colours except sunburst were actually custom colours, including black. Some black Fenders were sent out with tort plates, but usually only as customer's special orders through Fender dealers. That's why finding an all original vintage P Bass or Jazz Bass in black/tort is so hard. They do exist, but they are very, very rare. But if you look at Fender's vintage reissues you would think they were commonplace.

[snorkie635]

1 hour ago, Misdee said:

People put tort plates on just about any Fender colour now because it's become synonymous with the nebulous concept which is "vintage". 

 

Historically, Fender  did indeed ship most of its custom colour basses with mint/parchment pick guards. Bear in mind that most colours except sunburst were actually custom colours, including black. Some black Fenders were sent out with tort plates, but usually only as customer's special orders through Fender dealers. That's why finding an all original vintage P Bass or Jazz Bass in black/tort is so hard. They do exist, but they are very, very rare. But if you look at Fender's vintage reissues you would think they were commonplace.

I think I'll commission a tort bass with a black plate. 🤔