Steve Browning Posted Wednesday at 20:48 Posted Wednesday at 20:48 Accounts show 36 sites with 736 studios generating 13m turnover with cost of sales 9m. Administration costs are 14m so a loss of 10m. 2 Quote
Wombat Posted Wednesday at 21:05 Posted Wednesday at 21:05 Loss leader owned by Russian (insert county of your choice) billionaire? 1 Quote
Al Krow Posted Wednesday at 22:27 Posted Wednesday at 22:27 1 hour ago, Steve Browning said: Accounts show 36 sites with 736 studios generating 13m turnover with cost of sales 9m. Administration costs are 14m so a loss of 10m. Admin costs of £14M on what??! It's not like they have a huge amount of staff... Quote
Dad3353 Posted Wednesday at 23:21 Posted Wednesday at 23:21 51 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Admin costs of £14M on what??! It's not like they have a huge amount of staff... Cost of financing equipment and property acquisitions and rentals..? Interest rates are cripplingly high. 1 Quote
Downunderwonder Posted yesterday at 01:01 Posted yesterday at 01:01 1 hour ago, Dad3353 said: Cost of financing equipment and property acquisitions and rentals..? Interest rates are cripplingly high. OK, what is the 9M cost of sales covering? Quote
Dad3353 Posted yesterday at 01:34 Posted yesterday at 01:34 30 minutes ago, Downunderwonder said: OK, what is the 9M cost of sales covering? Advertising..? Back-room staff..? Fines for poor fire procedures..? I may not have all the details right, I'm not their accountant. 1 Quote
tvickey Posted 22 hours ago Author Posted 22 hours ago 8 hours ago, Wombat said: Loss leader owned by Russian (insert county of your choice) billionaire? 4/6ths of the owners are resident abroad. Hong Kong and Singapore. Quote
Burns-bass Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 10 hours ago, Steve Browning said: Accounts show 36 sites with 736 studios generating 13m turnover with cost of sales 9m. Administration costs are 14m so a loss of 10m. Cheers Steve. Seems about par for the course. I remember hearing Pizza Express followed a VC-led rapid expansion model and is now sat on £1bn of debt. That’s a lot of pizzas! 1 Quote
Wombat Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) They REALLY are Pirates 😂 Edited 20 hours ago by Wombat Typo 1 Quote
Burns-bass Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago The Pirate business model could be good, and when it started in Bristol, it really was. I used to go to the first one which is literally half a mile from where I’m sat now. Over time, prices creep up, facilities go unloved and equipment falls in quality. The savings are really compromises. When you grow a concept like they have (for light touch engagement with the public) it works in some areas, but not others. The fundamental problem if they don’t own the buildings (which I assume they don’t) they’ll never make a lot of cash. Rent prices will go up where, because if the nature of inflation, mortgage repayments will go down. Finance means you can run a loss making business into the ground for years and extract cash from it. Safestore, for example, operates a similar model (selling space at a relatively low cost). Difference is that the business owns the buildings and the land I believe. 1 Quote
Burns-bass Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) posted twice (fat hands) Edited 20 hours ago by Burns-bass Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.