Have you ever or would you ever ?

[Bass4real]

So you've got $20.000.00 dollars ,euros , rubles ,yen , or whatever , and you want a new 5 string  BASS . 

 You've found exactly what you're looking for , a New

FODERA IMPERIAL 5 ELITE  - for 

15,399.00 USD

I It's being sold on a reputable site 😬

Would you buy this bass without seeing it  , Holding it in your hands , actually playing it through an AMP  ?

 

This is just my opinion .

👉DON'T DO IT 👈. !!!!

I would never buy a bass , no matter the price , because I like a few pics of the Bass and a description of the Bass.

15,000.00 + 

HELLLLLLLL NOOOOO 

 that's nothing even remotely close to a

good decision.

Again just my opinion .

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hellzero]

Don't look the ads threads then...

[Bass4real]

2 hours ago, Hellzero said:

Don't look the ads threads then...

I don't look at any ads I just see crazy expensive basses  , IM talking like  10s of thousands of dollars for sale on some sites 

The Internet is full of thieves that are real good at the fkd up cons .

I just look , I don't trust anyone trying to sell

a 10 -20 30 thousand +- dollar bass.

Who would ,  ?

Someone that has no idea how many expensive basses  ordered online are 

a Chinese copy of a BASS costing thousands and thousands of dollars.

They pay a few hundred dollars and sell it online for thousands even 10s of thousands .of $ .

The Internet has All the human knowledge ever thought of.

And it has made people forget about 

common sense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[itu]

Please take a look at the prices of quality double basses and bows. Expecting to hear about you soon.

[Woodinblack]

There are several questions, so just trying to work out what you are really asking

Depends on the whatever, 20k rubles in $197, 20k yen is $127!

 

Assuming you mean enough to but that fedora, well, I wouldn't, its not something that appeals to me, so I wouldn't buy it even if it was a lot cheaper. I also am not at a place where I could justify buying a bass that was that sort of money, I wouldn't really buy a bass that my money from gigging wouldn't cover at some point - so you know, £1000 I can justify in my head in that its 8-12 gigs and I have paid for it.  Better than that, it is retrospective gigs, all my gigging money goes in a drawer, if I want to buy something I look in the drawer to see if there is enough money, and if there is, I buy it.

 

But, everyones justification limit is different. Some people wouldn't dream spending over a couple of hundred on a bass, some people wouldn't think twice of spending over £10,000 on an instrument that they want.

 

Then the final question, sight unseen. Well, it is a truth that 2 of the 4th largest amounts of money I have spent on a bass has been untouched. Once because it was a custom instrument so it didn't exist before I bought it and one because it was a long way away, and I also believed. it was going to be fine, it was.

I think if I was going to spend 15k on an instrument I would go and check it out, but then that is again down to my finances, maybe for the person who would drop that sort of money on a bass it wouldn't be worth their time. 

 

I am also sure that even though I don't like them, they are very high quality instruments, and you probably don't get a friday afternoon fodera, I am sure that if you play one of a certain model, and then play another one it is pretty similar, they aren't made like fenders. 

 

Also, if there is something wrong, I am in the UK, and assuming that I am buying in the UK, if something goes wrong, I can get the credit card company to sort it out!

[Frank Blank]

So you've got £20 and you want a fish supper.

You've found exactly what you're looking for...

Cod and chips for... 

£19.95

It's being sold by a reputable chippy

Would you buy this classic British dish, holding it, wrapped in newspaper, actually eating it with one of those wooden FORKS!

 

This is just my pickled onion.

👉DO IT 👈 !!!!

Granted, I would rather it was rock eel than cod and I realise my 5p change isn't quite enough to buy some mushy peas, but yes, no matter the price, because I like a few chips and a nice bit of cod, why not? You only live once.

£19.95

Reasonable at half the price and if I'm not mistaken, after the opening speech by the Vicar, I think there's a tombola, or maybe it's a raffle? I really shouldn't have had that second sherry. 

That's almost certainly a fine way to spend a Saturday afternoon at the Letcombe Regis village fête

Again just my pickled onion .

[binky_bass]

I've bought/traded hundreds of instruments from pictures only. Not had any issues. Many of these have been 'boutique' instruments, and most from this forum (and most from @Hellzero!)

 

I certainly would not have had the capacity to view and test 99% of these in person due to them being either in different countries or 100's miles away, so I would have missed out on hundreds of fantastic instruments if I'd lived by your advice. 

 

Do you homework, be sensible, and you'll be fine. 

Edited December 19, 2024 by binky_bass

[NickA]

On 15/12/2024 at 09:07, itu said:

Please take a look at the prices of quality double basses and bows.

Difference with double basses is the amount of work that goes into one.  All that carving (and a considerable amount of material) or they're rare antiques made (allegedly) from wood of a quality beyond what is now available.   £20k for a lovely Penning or T&G Martin is pretty good value.

 

Electric basses are, by comparison, just fancy plywood that's been band sawn into a shape. 😉

 

No, I'd never pay £20k for an electric bass, and certainly not that ugly fodera.

[WinterMute]

I bought an ACG Krell without seeing it, as it hadn't been built when I ordered it.

 

I had played a Krell and other ACGs however, so I knew what was coming.

 

I guess that's true of many premium brands.

 

I'd buy a Wal series 2 5er on pictures alone if the price was right.

[NickA]

I DID buy a MK2 5er Wal off reverb without ever having seen it in the flesh or played one.  £4k tho not £13k.

 

Doubt I'd do it at today's prices ... though they've settled from the peak and 5ers are generally a bit cheaper than 4s.  I'd buy an ACG Krell instead 😁.

[Baloney Balderdash]

No way I would ever do that!

 

If I had that kind of money I'd have luthier make me an amazing bass exactly to my personal preferred specs.

[binky_bass]

14 minutes ago, Baloney Balderdash said:

No way I would ever do that!

 

If I had that kind of money I'd have luthier make me an amazing bass exactly to my personal preferred specs.

I suppose the difference being is that if you spent 4k on a custom build it'll be worth approximately 2k the day its delivered to you, whereas if you buy a 4k bass on the second hand market (Wal, Fodera etc.) it'll probably be worth 4k if/when you move it on, assuming you haven't paid well over the odds. 

[Woodinblack]

22 minutes ago, binky_bass said:

I suppose the difference being is that if you spent 4k on a custom build it'll be worth approximately 2k the day its delivered to you, whereas if you buy a 4k bass on the second hand market (Wal, Fodera etc.) it'll probably be worth 4k if/when you move it on, assuming you haven't paid well over the odds. 

 

So I guess the diffrence is if you are buying something for an investment or an instrument to play

[binky_bass]

13 minutes ago, Woodinblack said:

 

So I guess the diffrence is if you are buying something for an investment or an instrument to play

Potentially, I'm lucky enough to have a few from both sides of this particular fence. I have a few ACGs Alan made for me and of course Binky the 10 string Bee Bass. I also have some I've bought well under their market value that I doubt I'll ever sell and some I've bought for about their market value as I wanted to try it but also didn't want to buy new and loose a chuck after the initial purchase. 'Orses for Courses as they say! 

[Baloney Balderdash]

3 hours ago, binky_bass said:

I suppose the difference being is that if you spent 4k on a custom build it'll be worth approximately 2k the day its delivered to you, whereas if you buy a 4k bass on the second hand market (Wal, Fodera etc.) it'll probably be worth 4k if/when you move it on, assuming you haven't paid well over the odds. 

Well, I am not buying a bass as an investment, if I was I would be a poor businessman, considerably more profitable things to invest your money in.

 

I am buying it to actually play it.

 

And to me it would be worth much more, though not in money.

 

Knowing I can earn money on something I don't enjoy playing is pretty worthless, even pointless for that matter.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Baloney Balderdash

[binky_bass]

1 hour ago, Baloney Balderdash said:

Well, I a not buying a bass as an investment, if I was I would be a poor businessman, considerably more profitable things to invest your money in.

 

I am buying it to actually play it.

 

And to me it would be worth much more, though not in money.

 

Knowing I can earn money on something I don't enjoy playing is pretty worthless, even pointless for that matter.

 

It's subjective isn't it. If you were in the market for an ACG let's say, some might look to buy new and spec it up to their liking and pay full retail, some might be very happy with something 90% to their liking and pay say 30% less on the second hand market. Neither is 'right', its entirely subjective.

 

I've bought many basses that I simply wanted to try, some I've loved and kept, some I've enjoyed for a short time and moved on, some I've broke even, some I've came out on top a little and some I've lost a little on. 

 

For me, buying second hand at a price I'm reasonably confident I won't loose money on allows me to enjoy and play significantly more basses than I ever would do if I'd only bought new. It's also vastly broadened my horizons in terms of what I now really look for in a bass - it's honed my 'wants' to an extremely specific list that I know suits me perfectly. 

 

As I say, tis all subjective with no correct answer! Do what suits you. 

Edited 2 hours ago by binky_bass