spyder Posted November 21 Posted November 21 I play mostly in pubs / clubs / wedding venues with a very basic Presonus PA and it was noticeable compared to the direct to mixer via a high quality active DI sound. The sound tightened up and I could here myself better because it pushes the sound forward. Using quality iem / studio headphones / high end hifi it was very noticeable. 1 1 Quote
krispn Posted November 21 Posted November 21 4 hours ago, Al Krow said: All good / valid points gents! Genuine real-world question: how much of the sound and feel is going to be preserved (or lost!) depending on the amp & cab or FoH set-up that you are going through when playing live with a band? What is going to be a "necessary minimum" quality set-up to hear the lush tones this is producing in a live band mix? I’d imagine it would translate quite well. I can hear a difference running just my amp versus running my pedal board into my amp. Same way my amp Di is adequate- I never use it but had to recently as my tube pre amp wasn’t giving any sound (turned out it was a simple fix but the amp DI did the job in a pinch). Did it sound ok for the gig yes but it’s wasn’t as enjoyable a sound. I could defo he’s the difference in my IEM’s This same question gets asked a lot on forums and there’s been some great demos showing how a pedal can sound like another pedal but I believe Origin are going for more of an experience in both feel and tone. It might not be important to folk for a pedal to feel like an amp if it’s nearly £500 but it’s exciting that we have a recreation of a classic amp that folks are describing as nailing the tone and feel. Does a 5k bass vintage bass sound better than a £400 bass? Does it feel better to play versus the £400 bass? Not everyone cares for these things but it’s nice when we can feel and hear a difference and that can push something form desirable to must have fall in love at the first play. If a £99 pedal can do 80% great but some players live for the last 20% because that’s where the inspiration lives. 9 Quote
Nickthebass Posted November 22 Posted November 22 (edited) How does the BR15 compare to the SV - tonally? I know they’re modelling different amps but how does that translate into a sound (more lows, tighter lows, does one break up more easily than the other etc.) Anyone who can compare a real B15 to a real SVT+fridge feel free to chime in too! 😆 I’m mainly interested in the DI sound with the cab sim on. The SV BassRig is generally always for me but not with huge amounts of overdrive - a little bit of push or break up at most. Tonally I’m normally going for old school supportive punch and clarity. I’m not normally looking for clangy Geddy Lee overdrive. (It drives me crackers that every demo of the SV spends 93.7% of the time driving the nuts off it.) Edited November 22 by Nickthebass 1 Quote
Nickthebass Posted November 22 Posted November 22 On 20/11/2025 at 15:08, spyder said: Moving on from this morning I've used the 1/4 inch amp out straight into my Ashdown ABM / 4x10 with no EQ, valve drive or sub harmonics turned on. With the settings shown below it sounds almost the same as the Di out going into the PA. This feature is great as I can duplicate the Di sound into any back line amp. Winner winner *insert preferred roast protein* dinner. This is exactly what I’m trying to do with my SV. I’ve been fiddling with the amp out EQ via a Radial JDI and some decent cans. 1 Quote
spyder Posted November 22 Posted November 22 34 minutes ago, Nickthebass said: Winner winner *insert preferred roast protein* dinner. This is exactly what I’m trying to do with my SV. I’ve been fiddling with the amp out EQ via a Radial JDI and some decent cans. That is exactly what I did yesterday. I took the amp out from the pedal into an active DI and straight into the PA. Switching between the pedal Di out and the pedal amp out there was no difference. Quote
Al Krow Posted November 22 Posted November 22 13 hours ago, krispn said: I’d imagine it would translate quite well. I can hear a difference running just my amp versus running my pedal board into my amp. Same way my amp Di is adequate- I never use it but had to recently as my tube pre amp wasn’t giving any sound (turned out it was a simple fix but the amp DI did the job in a pinch). Did it sound ok for the gig yes but it’s wasn’t as enjoyable a sound. I could defo he’s the difference in my IEM’s This same question gets asked a lot on forums and there’s been some great demos showing how a pedal can sound like another pedal but I believe Origin are going for more of an experience in both feel and tone. It might not be important to folk for a pedal to feel like an amp if it’s nearly £500 but it’s exciting that we have a recreation of a classic amp that folks are describing as nailing the tone and feel. Does a 5k bass vintage bass sound better than a £400 bass? Does it feel better to play versus the £400 bass? Not everyone cares for these things but it’s nice when we can feel and hear a difference and that can push something form desirable to must have fall in love at the first play. If a £99 pedal can do 80% great but some players live for the last 20% because that’s where the inspiration lives. Very nicely put Gav! Particularly like that final para, albeit the VTDI is £250 not £99, but that's splitting hairs on the philosophical point. Hope you manage to land one used in due course. Quote
Quatschmacher Posted November 22 Author Posted November 22 1 hour ago, Nickthebass said: How does the BR15 compare to the SV - tonally? I know they’re modelling different amps but how does that translate into a sound (more lows, tighter lows, does one break up more easily than the other etc.) Like you, I’m mostly running these sounds clean (or with slight breakup when digging in). Yes, it is frustrating to hear most demos showing the harsher side of the SV because it’s very capable of some lovely clean tones. (I actually noticed the other day that Avishai Cohen was running his upright through an SVT-CL Heritage rig.) As mentioned above, the SV does have deeper and more prominent lows. The top end can also get much fizzier due to the high switch. And this is before using either of the cab sims. I thought getting the Fifteen would obviate my keeping the SV, but I do appreciate the extra low end heft it brings for certain sounds. 4 Quote
Nickthebass Posted November 22 Posted November 22 1 hour ago, Quatschmacher said: Like you, I’m mostly running these sounds clean (or with slight breakup when digging in). Yes, it is frustrating to hear most demos showing the harsher side of the SV because it’s very capable of some lovely clean tones. (I actually noticed the other day that Avishai Cohen was running his upright through an SVT-CL Heritage rig.) As mentioned above, the SV does have deeper and more prominent lows. The top end can also get much fizzier due to the high switch. And this is before using either of the cab sims. I thought getting the Fifteen would obviate my keeping the SV, but I do appreciate the extra low end heft it brings for certain sounds. So if I’m understanding properly - your thoughts at the moment are that the SV has more fullness etc. in the bottom end and also more range at the top? Are you running one into t’other? Quote
Quatschmacher Posted November 22 Author Posted November 22 3 minutes ago, Nickthebass said: So if I’m understanding properly - your thoughts at the moment are that the SV has more fullness etc. in the bottom end and also more range at the top? Are you running one into t’other? Yes, the SV has more deep bass than the Fifteen, but that’s to be expected. The high switch on the SV allows for more clickiness of finger/pick attack of the string to come through, even with the treble knob rolled off. Obviously having the mid control on the SV gives you options that aren’t available on the Fifteen. Mine are hooked up in series but I’m not running one into the cab sim of the other, if that’s what you mean. Quote
Ian McFly Posted November 22 Posted November 22 On TalkBass, some say that the Fifteen sounds very close to the DCX. Interesting. Quote
krispn Posted November 29 Posted November 29 Any ‘real world’ feedback from gigs and that now the pedal has been in the hands of players for a wee bit? Quote
spyder Posted November 29 Posted November 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, krispn said: Any ‘real world’ feedback from gigs and that now the pedal has been in the hands of players for a wee bit? Yes. I've used it for 2 rehearsals, one Church gig and one Pub gig. With another pub gig tomorrow evening. On all occasions it preformed as expected, a warm vintage sound that just sits in the mix so well. My iem mix and playing feel sounds like I'm using a 'real' amp. It's a definite keeper and I've sold off all my other preamp pedals because the BR15 is all I need. Highly recommended. 🎶🎶🎶🎶 Edited November 29 by spyder 3 1 Quote
krispn Posted November 29 Posted November 29 (edited) 52 minutes ago, spyder said: Yes. I've used it for 2 rehearsals, one Church gig and one Pub gig. With another pub gig tomorrow evening. On all occasions it preformed as expected, a warm vintage sound that just sits in the mix so well. My iem mix and playing feel sounds like I'm using a 'real' amp. It's a definite keeper and I've sold off all my other preamp pedals because the BR15 is all I need. Highly recommended. 🎶🎶🎶🎶 First class. Maybe I’ll have to get one in the next wave. Borrowing my guitarists Nano Cortex tonight for the first set and have a couple of sounds loaded one being B15 capture. Ideally I’d shift some pedlas and things first! It does sound big and warm from the demos and a bit of a mix filler in a good way. Edited November 29 by krispn 1 Quote
bassist_lewis Posted November 30 Posted November 30 I've been lurking here ever since the Bassrig Fifteen was released. I pulled the trigger on Thursday morning and it arrived Yesterday (Saturday), finally got to spend time with it today. The EQ controls are very interesting. They seem to interact with each other, so I feel like I'm still getting to grips with how to dial in a sound. However, I have managed to get a very nice sound with my Wilcock. I've only used a B15 once for recording, so I can't speak with much authority to its accuracy, but I am liking what I'm hearing. 3 Quote
Quatschmacher Posted December 1 Author Posted December 1 1 hour ago, bassist_lewis said: I've been lurking here ever since the Bassrig Fifteen was released. I pulled the trigger on Thursday morning and it arrived Yesterday (Saturday), finally got to spend time with it today. The EQ controls are very interesting. They seem to interact with each other, so I feel like I'm still getting to grips with how to dial in a sound. However, I have managed to get a very nice sound with my Wilcock. I've only used a B15 once for recording, so I can't speak with much authority to its accuracy, but I am liking what I'm hearing. EQ is independent, unlike the Fender tone stack. They do however influence the drive character as they come before it in the signal path. 2 Quote
spyder Posted December 1 Posted December 1 (edited) Another successful gig last night using the BR15. I had to turn the bass up to 5 o'clock and the treble to 3 o'clock to balance the sound through the PA and it sounded fantastic. The EQ on the mixer was set completely flat so I could check out how the pedal responded. Edited December 1 by spyder 2 Quote
spyder Posted December 1 Posted December 1 (edited) A non scientific test. Pink noise from YouTube thru tablet into Origin Effects Bassrig 15 into Midas MR18 mixer with EQ bypassed. 1. Pedal off / bypassed. 2. Pedal on with cab SIM OFF tone controls at 12 o'clock. 3. Pedal on with cab SIM ON tone controls at 12 o'clock (mid position). 4. Pedal on with cab SIM ON tone controls at 6 o'clock (full). Edited December 1 by spyder 8 2 Quote
spyder Posted Sunday at 15:59 Posted Sunday at 15:59 I built a small pedal board around the Bassrig 15 for my 80s - 90s cover band. 5 Quote
thisisswanbon Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I'm painfully stuck between one of these (or the other Bassrigs but seem to be leaning towards the fifteen with all the comments of how well it sits in the mix) and an Anagram - I know they're two totally different bits of kit, but I like shiny new stuff! I was sold on the Anagram but everyone seems to mention the "feel" element of the Origin Effects stuff and that's huge to me, I can't imagine anything digital replicating that. My two concerns though - firstly, I spend half of my set using either a solo'd octave or C4 with some gnarly synth patches and I'm concerned the cab sim will cause issues with these, but I'd be reluctant to turn it off if it adds to the feel element.. Second, Headphone practice and C4 patch creation are a big thing for me and I'd need FOH sound available for headphone use when making C4 patches - anyone doing anything similar? I know this box is ticked off easily with the Anagram.. Sorry for the lengthy post, especially on an appreciation thread! Any input would be massively helpful though as hoping to order next week... Quote
Nickthebass Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, thisisswanbon said: I'm painfully stuck between one of these (or the other Bassrigs but seem to be leaning towards the fifteen with all the comments of how well it sits in the mix) and an Anagram - I know they're two totally different bits of kit, but I like shiny new stuff! I was sold on the Anagram but everyone seems to mention the "feel" element of the Origin Effects stuff and that's huge to me, I can't imagine anything digital replicating that. My two concerns though - firstly, I spend half of my set using either a solo'd octave or C4 with some gnarly synth patches and I'm concerned the cab sim will cause issues with these, but I'd be reluctant to turn it off if it adds to the feel element.. Second, Headphone practice and C4 patch creation are a big thing for me and I'd need FOH sound available for headphone use when making C4 patches - anyone doing anything similar? I know this box is ticked off easily with the Anagram.. Sorry for the lengthy post, especially on an appreciation thread! Any input would be massively helpful though as hoping to order next week... So - caveats and bias first - I have not played the Anagram so can't comment on it or compare to the BassRigs. I have had a BassRig SuperVintage at the end of my board for the past 18 months or so running to front of house / interface from the DI, to the back line from the jack out. Generally it's an "always on" I have also been running it "off" with the cab sim engaged on the DI. I wouldn't worry about an adverse impact on octavers or synths. There will be an impact which may mean that you want to tweak things but in my experience (OC2 / line 6 purple filter modeler / Mastotron / Envelope noises) the impact is generally positive (a bit more focused and consistent a sound - less alarming for the FOH / mix when you kick in a new sound). If you turned up to a gig with your effects and had to use the in-house SVT / 810 - would you be upset? Bootsy and Tim Lefebvre don't seem to be scared about running squelches or "doooh" noises through an SVT. I don't think of the BassRig as a pre-amp or effect - I think of it as an SVT + fridge that fit in a biscuit tin. 3 Quote
spyder Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago As above. ^ This is exactly how I treat the Bassrig 15, as an always on replacement for a stage amplifier. I always Di and use iem as my backline / monitor system. 2 Quote
Quatschmacher Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago (edited) And actually, the Fifteen tames octaver and filter a fair bit due to the low end roll-off. Edited 44 minutes ago by Quatschmacher 1 Quote
Nickthebass Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 53 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said: And actually, the Fifteen actually tames octaver and filter a fair bit due to the low end roll-off. This is exactly my experience with the cab model on the BassRig SV - everything is a bit tighter and more controlled. 1 Quote
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