joe_geezer Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) Paul Webb is playing some nice finger style on what looks like an original Vigier Passion? Edited December 20, 2022 by joe_geezer 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misdee Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 I probably watched this the night it was on! Great band, excellent bass player, lovely bass. Paul Webb was/is a tasty player, for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, joe_geezer said: Paul Webb is playing some nice finger style on what looks like an original Vigier Passion? seeing your username and the thread title, reminded me of the coolest Vigier of all time Edited December 20, 2022 by lidl e 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_geezer Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, lidl e said: seeing your username and the thread title, reminded me of the coolest Vigier of all time Haha Exactly that! Good old Geezer Butler! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Cloud Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Excellent...do love me a Vigier!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Not quite original: the headstock is black, i.e. carbon graphite i.e. series II. The first Arpege and Passion basses had wooden necks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_geezer Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, itu said: Not quite original: the headstock is black, i.e. carbon graphite i.e. series II. The first Arpege and Passion basses had wooden necks. Ahh thank you, i was waiting for someone to confirm / correct me as I'm no expert on Vigier, just an admire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, itu said: Not quite original: the headstock is black, i.e. carbon graphite i.e. series II. The first Arpege and Passion basses had wooden necks. I might be wrong but I’m 99% sure the passion entered service with a graphite neck and never had the wooden neck/metal laminate that the Arpege had until the series II instruments. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 The earliest Passion basses had wider horns as you can see on this bass. They narrowed them down a bit in around 1988 I think or thereabouts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 @ped has a good point here, there has been quite a few wooden Arpeges, but Passion and wood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright/watt Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just seen this..Remember from Back in the Day!! lol🙈🙊🤣 Definitely an early Passion with a carbon neck..but most surprising to me, only two control knobs!! @ 2.42 in video.. mind you, my eyesight..Ironically enough on www.leboncoin.fr there is an early Vigier Passion Jazz as described for saleIt's Been on the market for a few years I believe? at 1000 Euros..Needs abit of touch up work to the Headstock and neck..but definitely a wooden neck as on my old Arpege series 1, plus it's a non active bass..I have thought about this a few times but cannot set up a leboncoin account, not through lack of trying, believe I need a French phone number..Fortunate to own a January 86 Passion 11 bass, and it does have as @ped our man all things Vigier😃👍👍 rightly says has wider horns and the start of the 2nd ,generation Benedetti single coil pickups.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 The two knob versions sometimes had a removable preamp module with pre set EQ so the remaining knobs are vol and balance. I’ve only ever seen a couple like this though and the system never caught on, a bit like the Nautilus preamp. The one above looks like a carbon neck to me? Can’t find it on the site, got a link? Also looks active with the para EQ as standard? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Here’s an early passive one but with carbon neck still https://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/vigier-passion-passive/12523 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright/watt Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Hi Ped, as per anything technical cannot upload the link from www.leboncoin.fr of the Vigier Passion bass I mentioned ..How I ended up playing these game changing basses is a mystery to me..lol🙈🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 No worries, it'll definitely be graphite especially with the later pickups. Never ever seen a wooden necked series I Passion. I'll ask Patrice of they ever did them just to be sure! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergs40 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) https://www.leboncoin.fr/instruments_de_musique/1988904642.htm I think this is the LeBonCoin listing. EDIT. 1. It does look like a wooden neck - in fact the finish at the neck/headstock join almost looks like there’s been a break. Photos aren’t very clear, though 2. Is posting a link to someone else’s for sale on another site for the purposes of this sort of discussion within this forum’s rules OK? Apologies and please delete if not Edited January 7, 2023 by fergs40 Added info 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, fergs40 said: https://www.leboncoin.fr/instruments_de_musique/1988904642.htm I think this is the LeBonCoin listing. EDIT. 1. It does look like a wooden neck - in fact the finish at the neck/headstock join almost looks like there’s been a break. Photos aren’t very clear, though 2. Is posting a link to someone else’s for sale on another site for the purposes of this sort of discussion within this forum’s rules OK? Apologies and please delete if not Well fancy that! It does look like a wooden neck! And yeah no probs posting links to things for sale elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright/watt Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 36 minutes ago, ped said: Well fancy that! It does look like a wooden neck! And yeah no probs posting links to things for sale elsewhere. Think it is abit of a rarity!😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Yeah I’m pretty sure it’s the first one I’ve seen. I really like the sound of the wooden necked Arpege basses I’ve had but they tend to be pretty heavy with that metal laminate and a truss rod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright/watt Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, ped said: Yeah I’m pretty sure it’s the first one I’ve seen. I really like the sound of the wooden necked Arpege basses I’ve had but they tend to be pretty heavy with that metal laminate and a truss rod. I hear you @ped about weight, my series 1 Arpege fretless, ALMOST the weight of a wal! though in my humble opinion so much more comfortable to play😃👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 19 hours ago, ped said: The two knob versions sometimes had a removable preamp module with pre set EQ so the remaining knobs are vol and balance. I’ve only ever seen a couple like this though and the system never caught on, a bit like the Nautilus preamp. Now the two knobs are vol and preset tones. There is one pot and one switch. The switch has maybe six (?) positions and the ROM packs are inserted to a printer serial multipin connector. I have not seen many of these Passions, but played one. The idea was nice but it did not fly. I do not know how many different preamp modules were produced, but they were marked with texts. That semi parametric was the most common option. I think Nautilus system was only put to an Arpege, not to Passion? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, itu said: Now the two knobs are vol and preset tones. There is one pot and one switch. The switch has maybe six (?) positions and the ROM packs are inserted to a printer serial multipin connector. I have not seen many of these Passions, but played one. The idea was nice but it did not fly. I do not know how many different preamp modules were produced, but they were marked with texts. That semi parametric was the most common option. I think Nautilus system was only put to an Arpege, not to Passion? Ah I see, so it's a rotary switch - there's one for sale here https://reverb.com/item/33188518-vigier-passion-4-graphite-neck-active-bass-1986-white Yes the Nautilus was Arpege only. Nearly had one a few years ago but it fell through. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E sharp Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Are they really that much second hand now, or are they chancing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, E sharp said: Are they really that much second hand now, or are they chancing it? Reverb guy is chancing it, big time. I think a seriously nice Passion or Arpege would be £2K tops 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haimesy Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 I got a Nautilus in 87 .. bought it from my Bass tutor John Currie .. it had a 19 band eq pre set .. and a thick cable that went to a foot controller , and a prism which the pre set number would be displayed .. Great bass but the cable to the foot controller was a nightmare for curling up and I had to get the weird flat batteries direct from Patrice .. Fab bass all the same .. J 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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