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Advice about a Trace Elliot 4052h

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Hi all

I’ve  just picked up one of these. Can anyone tell me anything about them. I know it’s a high frequency add on but could it handle an ELF for home practice or is this not what it’s all about

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Mike

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It's for reproducing highs and only highs. It's not a full range speaker suitable for home practice.

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I have wondered if the speakers in these could be replaced by full-range ones; however, the size of the cabinet is small too and physics would come into play.

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I'm going way back, but I remember these being referred to as 'bright boxes'.

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As has been said, a bright box from the late eighties/early nineties. I believe they were first introduced in 'multi-stack' form with the MkV range.

 

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Not really. A 1x15 has no hope of keeping up with a 4x10. Eventually the 15 will be damaged.

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Nah,  the trace rigs always sounded great. That was the go to set up a decade or two ago.

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1 hour ago, BassmanPaul said:

Not really. A 1x15 has no hope of keeping up with a 4x10. Eventually the 15 will be damaged.

It seemed to be a pretty popular combination for many players for many years.

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As @la bam says "Brightboxes"...I have one...ideal "as well as", not "instead of"...

Though some may disagree, they add some colour to your tone when using a bigger cab. If you're looking for something to pair with your Elf see if you can find a 1x10 extension cab which came with the BLX range - easier said than done but they do come up on eBay occasionally. IIRC I paid around £75 for mine.

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23 hours ago, Deedee said:

It seemed to be a pretty popular combination for many players for many years.

Until the 15s started to fail. I honestly think that the pairing came about because Marketing wanted to show as many products as they could in one advert.

A 4x10 can go lower and louder than a single 15 and some 15s can go higher than the 4x10.

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Guys can I ask. I’ve plugged it in to my extension link On my cab and it’s silent. Will this only make a noise with a real high frequencies or am I looking at an issue. All 4 speakers are working

Thanks in advance

Mike

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Posted (edited)

Does it need a 4-wire cable? <= Sorry, wrong thread!

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It's likely to be an open circuit somewhere along the line. Check the wiring from the output through to the midrange drivers. A multimeter would help.

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On 05/05/2020 at 10:28, Deedee said:

As has been said, a bright box from the late eighties/early nineties. I believe they were first introduced in 'multi-stack' form with the MkV range.

 

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Doubtless due to being a teenager in the 90's leafing through gear magazines and catalogues on actual paper, images like this still get me all excited. I remember a few promo shots of double this setup side-by-side with the UV lights and all.
I'm generally quite pragmatic about gear, but there is nothing wrong with a bit of awesome for the sake of it!

*EDIT* Also, I think the bright box is high passed by a passive crossover/s. To use it 'full-range' the capacitors can be removed or bypassed which will let the full signal through to the drivers. Whether it would sound good is another matter, but it may work for home levels.

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Posted (edited)

Inexplicable double post here...

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Flippin eck! It says that bright box is 14kg!!

How times have changed! Theres full range 15" combos that weight less than that now!

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I just noticed that my TE 2x10 has a couple of those speakers in it.

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53 minutes ago, prowla said:

I just noticed that my TE 2x10 has a couple of those speakers in it.

Is that the shallow (front to back) one, same depth as the combos? They’re pretty rare now. 2x10” and 2x5”

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