LewisK1975 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 In my never ending quest for simplicity, I've been thinking about doing the above. Currently I use my TC BH250 head as a DI box, mainly because I really like the spectracomp and I also like the core tone of it anyway. Inputs 1 & 2 on the X18 mixer are hi-z so can take a guitar directly. The X18 has all the EQ you could ever imagine and also has compression available too. Has anyone else done this specifically with the X18/ XR18 / XR16 / XR12? I know I could just give it a go, but we don't do much full volume rehearsal and I'm not going to just leave it to chance on a gig.... Any thoughts appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 It all depends... mostly on what speakers you are using with your PA. Have they got the guts to support everything you are throwing at it? But yes, it's all doable but you should look at your monitoring solution... don't rely on hearing everything you need to from the reflection from the front of house. I'll ditch the backline wherever I can... and the band sounds better out front for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 Hey Russ, indeed the PA is fine, there are Mackie 18in subs and JBL PRX tops, which have two 15s and a tweeter each. Monitoring-wise I'm on in-ears (UE900s recommended by your good self) so no worries there..... Cheers dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 [quote name='LewisK1975' timestamp='1495554929' post='3304757'] Hey Russ, indeed the PA is fine, there are Mackie 18in subs and JBL PRX tops, which have two 15s and a tweeter each. Monitoring-wise I'm on in-ears (UE900s recommended by your good self) so no worries there..... Cheers dude. [/quote] In which case, go for it. You'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I've been clean di since around 2003! Go for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 If the bass is good and quiet (no hums or RF noise) then go for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 [quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1495557582' post='3304809'] If the bass is good and quiet (no hums or RF noise) then go for it [/quote] I'm not sure why that would make a difference? Hums and RF is going to be present in a backline, just like it would a PA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1495557671' post='3304812'] I'm not sure why that would make a difference? Hums and RF is going to be present in a backline, just like it would a PA? [/quote] But you can filter some noises with a DI box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) [quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1495557799' post='3304816'] But you can filter some noises with a DI box. [/quote] I suspect an xair mixer can do about a gazillion things more than a di box! It's got a built in bass amp, compressors, fx and a 31 band eq just for starters Edited May 23, 2017 by stingrayPete1977 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 You could if you really wanted to just put a normal cigarette box sized di inline if you wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) would be interesting trying to tweak your sound on the fly going direct into the X18, the interface on a tablet is tricky as f**k, I'll stick with my DI box thanks! Edited May 23, 2017 by skidder652003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I've gone bass - tuner - synth pedal - xr18 on a gig using in ears. Was absolutely fine and was able to get a really good foh sound and a lovely sound in my ears. Didn't have to work the eq too hard and just added the preset bass compression. I've got a beautiful aguilar DB750 and am this close to selling it and replacing with something cheap and cheerful for the odd occasions I want an amp for stage monitoring or dep gigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoham Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I'd love our whole band to go direct to the PA. I suspect I've no chance with the guitarist though... he insists on cranking a JCM 900, 4x12 full blast even when rehearsing. Only way to get a decent sound out of a Marshall apparently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 [quote name='skidder652003' timestamp='1495572520' post='3305031'] would be interesting trying to tweak your sound on the fly going direct into the X18, the interface on a tablet is tricky as f**k, I'll stick with my DI box thanks! [/quote] What would you be tweaking? Once the in ears he is using are set and the foh is mixed there shouldn't be any on the fly really should there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Indeed - when you go inears, you find out that there is no tweaking... as there is no volume wars and less ear fatigue that is egging you on to turn around and mess with your amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 You can also set yourself an individual layer on your tablet rather than view the entire band to use during the gig if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1495575667' post='3305071'] What would you be tweaking? Once the in ears he is using are set and the foh is mixed there shouldn't be any on the fly really should there? [/quote] shouldn't be, but i always find i might need a little more mids or bass, or less, or some more DI as the gig progresses, take off the compression for quieter moments etc, most of which I can control from my DI/EQ pedal, but maybe some folks just setup and go and don't need to change things during a gig, rarely happens for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Ah a knob twiddler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 All pointing the right way for me I think, I'm certainly not a fiddler, when it's set, I leave it alone unless a trusted source from out front tells me something different... Cheers all, every input is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I just plug my bass into the zoom and that straight into the PA. It just works and its plenty loud enough to shake cups at 30 feet. No amp needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1495619751' post='3305291'] Ah a knob twiddler [/quote] cheeky! more fine tuner (honest!) Edited May 24, 2017 by skidder652003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) Fine tuna..! Mmm..! Edited May 24, 2017 by Dad3353 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 [quote name='skidder652003' timestamp='1495662612' post='3305765'] cheeky! more fine tuner (honest!) [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1495669276' post='3305809'] Fine tuna..! Mmm..! [/quote] Oh-oh. Here come the Tickled Trout fish puns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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