eude Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Hey there, I'm going to get myself a little rig very soon. Based on the Ashdown Mibass 2.0, but I'm swithering between having a single Mi12 1x12" cab and 2 Mi10 1x10"ers. For the last little while I've been using a Promethean P5110 10" combo and have really enjoyed the compact design and portability. Does anyone have any experience of the Mi10 cabs, and if so have you tried two of them at once? Just wondering if it would provide enough bottom end and power to do the output of the MiBass 2.0 head justice. Failing that, I guess I'll need to go for the bigger Mi12 cab, and maybe add another one of them further down the line. Thanks guys! Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franzbassist Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Hi Eude I gave both a good run. I didn't try two of the Mi10s, but I plumped for the Mi12 in the end anyway as it was just bigger sounding and had a lovely smooth tweeter in it. The Mi10 sounded boxy to me, which I guess is unsurprising as it is not much bigger than a cardboard box anyway! There are two Mi12s for sale here on BC at the mo, so you could sort yourself pretty cheaply if you want to go that route. Cheers Gareth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted January 24, 2014 Author Share Posted January 24, 2014 [quote name='walbassist' timestamp='1390579480' post='2347198'] Hi Eude I gave both a good run. I didn't try two of the Mi10s, but I plumped for the Mi12 in the end anyway as it was just bigger sounding and had a lovely smooth tweeter in it. The Mi10 sounded boxy to me, which I guess is unsurprising as it is not much bigger than a cardboard box anyway! There are two Mi12s for sale here on BC at the mo, so you could sort yourself pretty cheaply if you want to go that route. Cheers Gareth [/quote] Hey Gareth, thanks for chiming in so quickly! I was worried about the Mi10 being boxy, the Promethean for some reason doesn't suffer too badly from that, but I'm fairly sure there's some kind of Japanese Voodoo involved there, even Ibanez haven't managed to recreate the magic in the newer version they created... I was planning on buying through Andertons who are doing insanely good deals on MiBass heads with cabs various, cheaper than buying the cab secondhand! Cheers mate, Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan670844 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 [quote name='eude' timestamp='1390579262' post='2347192'] Hey there, I'm going to get myself a little rig very soon. Based on the Ashdown Mibass 2.0, but I'm swithering between having a single Mi12 1x12" cab and 2 Mi10 1x10"ers. For the last little while I've been using a Promethean P5110 10" combo and have really enjoyed the compact design and portability. Does anyone have any experience of the Mi10 cabs, and if so have you tried two of them at once? Just wondering if it would provide enough bottom end and power to do the output of the MiBass 2.0 head justice. Failing that, I guess I'll need to go for the bigger Mi12 cab, and maybe add another one of them further down the line. Thanks guys! Eude [/quote] I just got a Mi12 it joins a LB212 and a CL610. For less than £300 quid its a cracking cab. It has good smooth highs and its very punchy. It also has great tight low end. It has a natural very smooth low mid hump which makes it cut through the mix very well. I normally put 150 -200 watts or so into it thumbwise. I normally use a spyder 550 or a LB30 with it and its got a great level of volume but obviously not as loud as the CL610.... . Also testament to a decent designed crossover / tweeter it doesnt sound harsh with the valve Amp. Very pleased with it. Two downsides its big, its is defo the biggest 1x12 I have seen. Its an easy one hand lift though. Other problem is the tolex on some of the cabs is a bit wonky. Not really an issue soundwise. I bought mine from a well known, large dealer so was able to sift a bit. Its a great looking cab and looks a quality job. I bought mine so I dont have to use my LB212 on small gigs. I love the LB212 its the best small cab I have ever had and it records amazingly well. So I want to look after it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 [quote name='dan670844' timestamp='1390765987' post='2349294'] I just got a Mi12 it joins a LB212 and a CL610. For less than £300 quid its a cracking cab. It has good smooth highs and its very punchy. It also has great tight low end. It has a natural very smooth low mid hump which makes it cut through the mix very well. I normally put 150 -200 watts or so into it thumbwise. I normally use a spyder 550 or a LB30 with it and its got a great level of volume but obviously not as loud as the CL610.... . Also testament to a decent designed crossover / tweeter it doesnt sound harsh with the valve Amp. Very pleased with it. Two downsides its big, its is defo the biggest 1x12 I have seen. Its an easy one hand lift though. Other problem is the tolex on some of the cabs is a bit wonky. Not really an issue soundwise. I bought mine from a well known, large dealer so was able to sift a bit. Its a great looking cab and looks a quality job. I bought mine so I dont have to use my LB212 on small gigs. I love the LB212 its the best small cab I have ever had and it records amazingly well. So I want to look after it.... [/quote] Thanks for the info mate. Unfortunately "defo the biggest 1x12 I have seen" and "the tolex on some of the cabs is a bit wonky" are the death knell for me. I was really hoping that the 1x12 would be a compact design, I can't stand bad QC, and it seems that the Mi10 cabs aren't really up to it, bit boxy and have had folks concerned about power handling. I think I'll have to start looking elsewhere now. Thanks for your input anyway folks. Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I loved Dan's review, but this is what I think he really meant (no offense, Dan)... "I just got a Mi12 it joins a LB212 and a CL610. For less than £300 quid its a cracking cab." [i]I paid 300 smackers for it – so admitting that it’s rubbish would make me look like a pratt.[/i] "It has good smooth highs and its very punchy." [i]The highs are a bit rolled off.[/i] "It also has great tight low end." [i]Not much bottom end either.[/i] "It has a natural very smooth low mid hump which makes it cut through the mix very well." [i]It has an annoying honk in the lower mids.[/i] "Also testament to a decent designed crossover / tweeter it doesnt sound harsh with the valve Amp." [i]The tweeter's not very loud either.[/i] "Very pleased with it." [i]300 smackers pleased.[/i] "Two downsides its big, its is defo the biggest 1x12 I have seen." [i]What was I thinking? I should have bought a 15.[/i] "Its an easy one hand lift though." [i]Made of some cheap thin material I'll bet.[/i] "Other problem is the tolex on some of the cabs is a bit wonky. Not really an issue soundwise" [i]At least the wonky covering doesn't affect the sound. That's something, I suppose. [/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ghost_Bass Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Hi Eude I also have a P5110 combo and had a Mi10 that i used with my shuttle 9.0. First of all, you won't be able to use two Mi10's with the amp because the Mi10 are 4Ohm cabs, the Mi12 are 8ohm. What i can say from my Mi10 is that the cab is well put together, beautifull fit and finish, light, easilly portable, nice bottom end but the top lacks a bit (doesn't have tweeter, only a HF extention cone, like on the wizzy). It can handle some power without farting but it will only cope with a mild hitting drummer. One or two Mi12" will be a better option if you plan playing without PA or use for rehearsalls. I can safely say that the Promethean combo can handle a gig better than the Ashdown Mi10. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 [quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1390921299' post='2351316'] Hi Eude I also have a P5110 combo and had a Mi10 that i used with my shuttle 9.0. First of all, you won't be able to use two Mi10's with the amp because the Mi10 are 4Ohm cabs, the Mi12 are 8ohm. What i can say from my Mi10 is that the cab is well put together, beautifull fit and finish, light, easilly portable, nice bottom end but the top lacks a bit (doesn't have tweeter, only a HF extention cone, like on the wizzy). It can handle some power without farting but it will only cope with a mild hitting drummer. One or two Mi12" will be a better option if you plan playing without PA or use for rehearsalls. I can safely say that the Promethean combo can handle a gig better than the Ashdown Mi10. Cheers [/quote] Thanks very much mate! They actually, very quietly, re-released the Mi10 as an 8 Ohm cab, so you can run 2 at a time now. Do you reckon 2 x Mi10s would be a decent bet, or would I end up missing the Promethean? My only reason for changing is for changing's sake, just fancy something a bit different... Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Well, with two Mi10's you'll be able to gig with any drummer, i recon. Just be sure that you won't miss the top end zing that a piezzo can provide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share Posted January 28, 2014 [quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1390927324' post='2351392'] Well, with two Mi10's you'll be able to gig with any drummer, i recon. Just be sure that you won't miss the top end zing that a piezzo can provide. [/quote] Thank you mate. Now I need to find out where you can buy that set up and if they'll do me a deal Cheers, Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Be sure you try it first. These Promethean combos have a great sound, it's hard to find a replacement that'll sound as good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan670844 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) [quote name='stevie' timestamp='1390841623' post='2350176'] I loved Dan's review, but this is what I think he really meant (no offense, Dan)... "I just got a Mi12 it joins a LB212 and a CL610. For less than £300 quid its a cracking cab." [i]I paid 300 smackers for it – so admitting that it’s rubbish would make me look like a pratt.[/i] "It has good smooth highs and its very punchy." [i]The highs are a bit rolled off.[/i] "It also has great tight low end." [i]Not much bottom end either.[/i] "It has a natural very smooth low mid hump which makes it cut through the mix very well." [i]It has an annoying honk in the lower mids.[/i] "Also testament to a decent designed crossover / tweeter it doesnt sound harsh with the valve Amp." [i]The tweeter's not very loud either.[/i] "Very pleased with it." [i]300 smackers pleased.[/i] "Two downsides its big, its is defo the biggest 1x12 I have seen." [i]What was I thinking? I should have bought a 15.[/i] "Its an easy one hand lift though." [i]Made of some cheap thin material I'll bet.[/i] "Other problem is the tolex on some of the cabs is a bit wonky. Not really an issue soundwise" [i]At least the wonky covering doesn't affect the sound. That's something, I suppose. [/i] [/quote] For the record I am happy with this cab. It is far from crap ......It is less than £300 hahaha! It is not as good a an Aguilar DB112 but they are £725.... It does have a a credible low end, better than The EBS Neo 112 better than an Aguilar GS112 again not as good as a DB112 but they are £725..... It does have a low mid presence like a GS112, it is far from honky. Again it is not as smooth as a DB112 but they are £725.... I need a small light box for doing little gigs in London. I have tried the above and had a DB112 for a while they are the best 112 on the market but they are £725 and they are 28kg on the tube that is a no, although I did hump it for a while. It wont last as long as a DB but the sonic performance is quite ok and if it gets monkeyed by the suited chuffers on the tube. I Will just buy another one. It depends what you want in life...... i have expensive gear, boutique gear made by Ashdown and other manufacturers, but it dont get carted on the tube.... But it has to sound great... I bought mine early on so the tolex issue must just be the ones I looked at. A lot of people have bought them on here and no one has said anything about this... The mood seems to be positive with this cab.. But even though its less than £300, £300 is actually still quite a lot of money, I try all my stuff before I buy it, which makes me a weirdo, as seeing as everyone else on here seems to roll their gear every week, they clearly aren't..... If you want the best wide frequency 10 then you should look at a EA wizzer 10, but they are £625 I am happy to pay this type of money for a cab if It does what I want, most arent. Edited January 28, 2014 by dan670844 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 [quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1390933091' post='2351495'] Be sure you try it first. These Promethean combos have a great sound, it's hard to find a replacement that'll sound as good [/quote] Thanks mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 [quote name='dan670844' timestamp='1390937639' post='2351566'] For the record I am happy with this cab. It is far from crap ......It is less than £300 hahaha! It is not as good a an Aguilar DB112 but they are £725.... It does have a a credible low end, better than The EBS Neo 112 better than an Aguilar GS112 again not as good as a DB112 but they are £725..... It does have a low mid presence like a GS112, it is far from honky. Again it is not as smooth as a DB112 but they are £725.... I need a small light box for doing little gigs in London. I have tried the above and had a DB112 for a while they are the best 112 on the market but they are £725 and they are 28kg on the tube that is a no, although I did hump it for a while. It wont last as long as a DB but the sonic performance is quite ok and if it gets monkeyed by the suited chuffers on the tube. I Will just buy another one. It depends what you want in life...... i have expensive gear, boutique gear made by Ashdown and other manufacturers, but it dont get carted on the tube.... But it has to sound great... I bought mine early on so the tolex issue must just be the ones I looked at. A lot of people have bought them on here and no one has said anything about this... The mood seems to be positive with this cab.. But even though its less than £300, £300 is actually still quite a lot of money, I try all my stuff before I buy it, which makes me a weirdo, as seeing as everyone else on here seems to roll their gear every week, they clearly aren't..... If you want the best wide frequency 10 then you should look at a EA wizzer 10, but they are £625 I am happy to pay this type of money for a cab if It does what I want, most arent. [/quote] PM'd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 OK, decision made, I'm going all Ashdown. Watch this space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 For how long? I've been staring and staring, at least expecting a forest to appear in the background but hoping for more, to no avail. All is see is "this space" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 "This space" should have some news on Friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Bloody couriers. Continuing my "good luck" this year, the courier was a complete no show on Friday, hopefully something will appear on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 [quote name='dan670844' timestamp='1390937639' post='2351566'] ...It is not as good a an Aguilar DB112 but they are £725... It does have a a credible low end, better than The EBS Neo 112 better than an Aguilar GS112 again not as good as a DB112 but they are £725... It does have a low mid presence like a GS112, it is far from honky. Again it is not as smooth as a DB112 but they are £725... I have tried the above and had a DB112 for a while they are the best 112 on the market but they are £725... [/quote] Hey Dan, just for the record can you confirm the price of a new DB112, please..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 The Aggie prices have gone up a hell of a lot, I guess that's what happens when you involve a distributor. Real shame, it puts their cabs out of reach for potentially quite a lot of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Happy now?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 [quote name='eude' timestamp='1392548580' post='2369844'] The Aggie prices have gone up a hell of a lot, I guess that's what happens when you involve a distributor. Real shame, it puts their cabs out of reach for potentially quite a lot of people. [/quote] 100% agree. Just paying for a distributor. I would buy more Aggie gear, but the fact I bought a DB212 brand new for £650 and the latest DB112s are almost that is just...crackers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1392812155' post='2372947'] 100% agree. Just paying for a distributor. I would buy more Aggie gear, but the fact I bought a DB212 brand new for £650 and the latest DB112s are almost that is just...crackers. [/quote] Yup, if money was no object, I'd likely have an Aggie rig, or certainly a couple of GS112 cabs that's for sure, but having bought a GS112 new several years ago for a little more than £300, the new prices make me actually wince! I'll stick with what I've got for now I reckon Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Can you post an impression on the Promethean vs Mibass rigs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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