Greggo Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 As above, can anybody tell me about them? I've seen one locally and am very interested and doing a seach on here all i can see is that were a limited run for 3 years. Do they have the same electronics but cheaper components? Do they sound more or less the same? Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontalste Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Same electrics & pick-up sound like a Stingray but the finish is basic. Black painted neck and the body is kinda like a textured finish. I'd have one anyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggo Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 Yeah the colour is a bit depressing but it's the sound I'm after! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontalste Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) You wouldn't tell it's not a Stingray with your eyes closed. I was out to buy one a couple of years ago but I ended up with more funds than I expected so I bought the Ray instead. Edit- there's no cutaway on the top off the body either, wouldn't bother me at all but could be a crux for some. Edited September 23, 2013 by Horizontalste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggo Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 [quote name='Horizontalste' timestamp='1379947703' post='2218566'] Edit- there's no cutaway on the top off the body either, wouldn't bother me at all but could be a crux for some. [/quote] Like a slab body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Slab body, no contour. No biggy. I was fortunate enough to be able to buy a genuine 2EQ Ray shortly after having one and, apart from cosmetics (textured body, painted rosewood neck) sound and build were on a par. I'd buy another in a heartbeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutton Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 [quote name='Greggo' timestamp='1379949517' post='2218597'] Like a slab body? [/quote] Yes. Just like the rather expensive Stingray Classic! These are great basses. I preferred mine to a Stingray I had. The Stingray was moved on but the SUB remains. The fingerboards are all rosewood, no maple. Here's mine: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Slab bodied, 2 band, textured finished Stingray with nasty ass scratchplate (easily replaced, standard screw holes). The paint on the neck can go shiny and drag a bit, but is easily stripped off and oiled. I've had my white one since they were released, I did have it defretted a good few years back and is the one bass I'll probably never sell as I'd never get another bass of that quality for the money I could sell it for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggo Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) I like slab body for some reason! Edited September 24, 2013 by Greggo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 £350-400 ish depending on condition and colour. White ones are rare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggo Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) Getting some serious GAS for one of these now there is one crept up pretty nearby... Edited September 24, 2013 by Greggo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowender Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 They're Stingrays made in a place where the labor is a tenth of the U.S. I already have a MM and I had to buy one because it's just too good of a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_g Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 You cant go wrong with the SUB,i had one in teal stuck a black pickguard on it it looked great i think i paid around £320 a few years back I think they stopped making them due to the fact it just wasnt making them any money in the end. Trying to make a budget stingray still made in the usa wasnt really that cheap to produce,so they stopped making them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyJ Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 [quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1379986110' post='2219224'] They're Stingrays made in a place where the labor is a tenth of the U.S. [/quote] Actually, the USA SUBs were made in the same facility in San Luis Obispo, USA as the regular Music Man instruments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoo Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Aren't there some variants of the USA SUB? Often seen mention of some being active 2 band preamp and some with just passive tone controls, and also some with the pickup wired parallel or some wired series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 [quote name='stoo' timestamp='1380010559' post='2219323'] Aren't there some variants of the USA SUB? Often seen mention of some being active 2 band preamp and some with just passive tone controls, and also some with the pickup wired parallel or some wired series? [/quote] Yep and they dont all have the artex finish either, as Stu g says above he had a teal one, I'd track down one with a regular finish, swap the pickguard, make sure its wired in parallel (or even fit a push pull for both) and put a John East preamp in it, flat the neck off with some 1200 wet and dry, job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggo Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 Might see if i can have a test drive of it.. The guy selling the S.U.B referred to it as an ugly stingray.. Does S.U.B stand for Stringrays Ugly Brother...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 [quote name='Greggo' timestamp='1380027587' post='2219706'] Does S.U.B stand for Stringrays Ugly Brother...? [/quote] If it didn't before, I think it does now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh2 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I have gas for one of these, especially after I had to let my 68 Ray go... Don't see them that often in the classifieds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggo Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 BTW - I love the teal coloured SUB, just seen an image on google images.. if I could get hold of one of them i would be a happy chap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowender Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 [quote name='LeftyJ' timestamp='1380009424' post='2219308'] Actually, the USA SUBs were made in the same facility in San Luis Obispo, USA as the regular Music Man instruments [/quote] Mine says "Made in Indonesia." : / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggo Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 [quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1380029144' post='2219750'] Mine says "Made in Indonesia." : / [/quote] Is that not the newer sterling SUB ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowender Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 [quote name='Greggo' timestamp='1380029637' post='2219761'] Is that not the newer sterling SUB ? [/quote] Yeah, I didn't realize the topic was about the older US models. The new ones are indonesian, amazingly good and ridiculously priced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggo Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 It is really confusing the line up - musicman subs, sterling subs, sterling ray 34s etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowender Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 [quote name='Greggo' timestamp='1380045238' post='2220086'] It is really confusing the line up - musicman subs, sterling subs, sterling ray 34s etc. [/quote] I have an old Sterling and have to explain that it isn't the new budget line Sterlings. It's so stupid. How tough is it to come up with different names? lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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