jackhammer Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Hi all, Another amp thread! Sorry :s just so undecided!! http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~name~Gallien-Krueger-700RB-+-115MBE400-Bass-Stack~ID~17082.asp Any thoughts on the above? Loud enough? Better value for money on something else? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Very nice heads. Great for rock in particular. Seems like a lot of rig for a good price IMO. Volume shouldn't be a problem and you can always add an extra cab if needed in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhammer Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 Am I right in thinking this stack will put out about 320? Unless I add another cab of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 The head is rated: 225 watts @ 8ohm and 380 watts @ 4ohm. the bab is 8ohm so the output will be 225 watts. Thats a lot of juice if you play with people who dont play loud for the sake of it. Both those loads DO NOT include the output from the 75 watt amp. Heres a link to the manual. It explains the bi-amp thingy better than I ever could. [url="http://www.gallien-krueger.com/manuals/700rb.pdf"]http://www.gallien-krueger.com/manuals/700rb.pdf[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhammer Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) I'm so confused! Why does the website say 480+50 watts :s Edited March 26, 2012 by jackhammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 specs on the head - [b]700RB-II[/b] • 480 watts (4 ohms) plus 50 watt Horn bi-amp system • Active 4-band EQ • Adjustable contour, presence & 4/5 string voicing • Boost (valve effect) • Seperate tweeter & woofer volume controls • Effects loop & tuner out with mute • XLR out with level, ground lift & pre/post switch • Speakon & 1/4" outputs • 19x3.5x8 (2 rack spaces) • 19.5 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomBassmonkey Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 IIRC it's 320w at 8Ohm and 480 at 4Ohm. The +50 is because there's actually two amps inside the head, one for the woofers and one for the tweeters. That cab doesn't have bi-amp compatability anyway though so you'll just be using the 320w with the one cab. Mog, those are the stats for the 700RB (the older version), the 700RB-II has more beef. That deal is brilliant value for money. Even Thomman has just the head for £500. The cab isn't brilliant but it's good enough and with a great head, you'll be able to upgrade the cab when you want. Don't get me wrong, they're very good cabs for the money, they're just cheap. I doubt you'll be able to find a better setup to get you started. If you have any more questions, just ask. I'm no expert on amps but I've used most of GK's stuff and owned that head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I'm using an MB210 combo with one of these cabs underneath. IMO they are exceptionally good. I can get some seriously trouser flapping, in fact the last cab to do that was my old heavy trace 4x12". I've had 3 700RB II heads and sold my last one to buy the combo. A wee bit different to set up but once it was how Iliked it, I haven't touched anything other than the volume. Easily the best and lightest rig I've ever owned and part of the reason I'm not on here as often as I used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 [quote name='ThomBassmonkey' timestamp='1332784099' post='1593084'] Mog, those are the stats for the 700RB (the older version), the 700RB-II has more beef. [/quote] Cheers lad. Should have spotted that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomBassmonkey Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Delberthot' timestamp='1332784553' post='1593096'] I'm using an MB210 combo with one of these cabs underneath. IMO they are exceptionally good. I can get some seriously trouser flapping, in fact the last cab to do that was my old heavy trace 4x12". [/quote] Yeah, having re-read my post I think it comes across a bit negative about the cabs. To re-phrase, they're budget cabs. Within their price bracket they're untouchable IMO, nothing I've ever seen or heard comes close to them anywhere near that price. IMO the Neos are better (with a similar sound) but you are paying a fair bit extra for them and there's not a huge difference. It's things like bracing etc that have been skipped to keep the budget down, the MBEs are beefy cabs with great tone. If you can try out the rig, that would obviously be best, but if not then if you do take the plunge you can feel confident that you'll have an awesome amp that will last many years, be reliable and sound great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhammer Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 Thanks everyone for your help, don't really know of any big music stores around my area so probably won't be able to test so I'll end up buying and hoping! I'm sure all will be fine as it seems like everyone rates them fairly highly! We will see! Thanks again Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Check them out on Thomann.de They have sound samples of many of the cabs they sell - rock/metal/slap - so you can get an idea of whether to buy or not. Not ideal, as you don`t know which bass or amp, but it gives a helpful steer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I'm going for the MB500 deal, I need to be able to carry the head around with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Can`t go wrong with that - the MB500 is half the size & weight of a laptop - but sounds great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhammer Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 What are the differences between the two mate? [quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1332851624' post='1593912'] I'm going for the MB500 deal, I need to be able to carry the head around with me [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='jackhammer' timestamp='1332857222' post='1594014'] What are the differences between the two mate? [/quote] I'm no expert (and there are plenty of other threads on here that can go into more detail) but in very basic terms, the RB700 in your link is a classic bass amp design, but very traditional in that it is large and heavy - the MB500 is a lightweight, modern amp that is also very small. It doesn't have as many features as the RB700 but still has that GK tone and growl - I know Lozz196 has one and swears by it. Unfortunately the pictures on the Soundslive website make both amps look about the same size, which they definitely aren't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhammer Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 So if weight doesn't bother me, go for the rb? Is there a reason the other one is more expensive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) Because it's made with newer technology and because people are willing to pay for the smallness premium. Either would be fine, I have a 1001RB-II and love it but if I were to do it all again I'd probably go small and digital. Edited March 27, 2012 by Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJMacL Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Just to add confusion to the mix, I have just opted for the MB Fusion. Builds on the MB 500 adding an all tube preamp (Three 12AX7's) and it really growls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I have the MB210 which is a 2x10" combo containing the MB500 so a third option. It was a little bit weird getting used to the controls being on top at the back but even with the 115MBE cab underneath, its still easy to get to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyl Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 This looks a good deal to me too. I had a 1001 RB II and regret selling. It certainly wasn't that heavy, and reading this post is making me consider buying another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Make me an offer on mine, guyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhammer Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 As you might have geussed, I'm fairly new to the bass world, only been playing a year or so, traditionally Im a guitarist, a friend said this amp will be overkill and to go for the 300 watt variant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didle Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I have the Fusion 550 (the larger version of the light weight Fusion 500 mentioned above) with NEO 115 and 210 cabinets. I love it and I wouldn't trade it for any other amp. If you want to hear it, I'll be playing at The Horn in St. Albans on Saturday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 That I would have liked to have seen - having played there with you guys before - but already going elsewhere to see a mates band. Rats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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