plyguy Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) As some of you will have noticed i'm looking for a pair of Aguilar DB112's at the moment. I know that with 2 cabs I would have the option to use just 1 cab for quiet gigs (which i do from time to time) but most of the time i'm playing with a loud guitarist and drummer so i'm starting to think that maybe I'd be better buying a 4ohm DB212 cab instead. Has anyone compared the 2 setups? ie: 2x112 vs 1x212? If MOST of the the time i'm going to use the 2 cabs will I gain anything volume or tone wise by using a DB212 instead? I'd appreciate any advice on this as i'm just about to fork out my hard earned. Edited June 2, 2011 by plyguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Jamin Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I'd go for the 212. You don't need two tweeters for two speakers and they're not that big, and you can always just turn down on the amp. Plus it's cheaper than buying two 112s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plyguy Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='Ben Jamin' post='1254356' date='Jun 2 2011, 06:06 PM']I'd go for the 212. You don't need two tweeters for two speakers and they're not that big, and you can always just turn down on the amp. Plus it's cheaper than buying two 112s [/quote] Thanks for that, size and weight is a consideration but the 212's have wheels I believe. Originally I was looking for 1 with and 1 without tweeter (112's that is) but as there seems to be so few around second hand I think I can't be that fussy...plus i guess you can always turn one tweeter off. As for price, well i can't stretch to brand new anyways so hoping something will turn up soon. What i'm trying to find out is whether the 212 would sound 'louder' or 'bigger' than 2 x 112's.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) I can't help with the DB212... but the choice is money over mobility/flexibility, IMO. I run 2 GS112's which pr up very well...one on its own is ok for a decent volume but you will be fighting it..or I was. It wasn't that bad in that I didn't know one cab had packed up and it wasn't that obvious but it didn't cut like I wanted. I put it down at first to the odd heavily damped room which I had never used before. I also run DB210's paired up and they sound great and the DB series has more presense about it. For your decision, it is simply money for 2 cabs against the one DB212 offset by the cab config being less flexible for small gigs. I'd take the 2 singles as there will be times when you can use a single..and that will be a a very easy carry gig. Edited June 2, 2011 by JTUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I'm lead to believe that the little bit of extra internal volume of the DB212 cab means that they go a little lower BUT I have to confess my pair of DB112's have never lacked bottom end! I'd have to agree that the pair of 112s gives you flexibility and that is why I have singles but by the same token I've only ever gigged once with a single cab (though I do rehearse with a single), I always double up for gigs... they are defo greater than the sum of the two parts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plyguy Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 Thanks for the input guys. So that's 2 cabs +2, 1 cab +1. I think i'd be happier with 2 but like to hear peoples opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I went for the DB212. Reasons are: Casters included on the cab (so fairly easy to move about) Less overall weight Cheaper Only need one cover therefore cheaper Apparently the larger box with the two speakers means it will go EVER so slightly louder and deeper, but I cant imagine there is much in it. Personally, Id love a DB112 for small gigs, but I dont really need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 PS - Both options are great. I havent found a cab I prefer to the DB212....it literally is exactly what I want. Personally, I love the whole aesthetics/quality/tone of the Aguilar gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skej21 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Musicman20' post='1254487' date='Jun 2 2011, 07:54 PM']PS - Both options are great. .....it literally is exactly what I want. Personally, I love the whole aesthetics/quality/tone of the Aguilar gear.[/quote] + 10000000000000 Aguilar make some great gear. I've got 1 x GS112 and 1 x GS112NT and have to agree, they are great. Lightweight, offer fantastic flexibility and give you everything you need whilst using 1 or 2. I went through the same decision when buying mine (1 x 212 or 2 single) and if I had to make the decision again, I'd get two singles. I'm constantly switching between using one or two, depending on size of venue, type of gig etc, but I've never found a gig I can't do. Either way, you're making the right decision by going for the Aggy stuff. I'll play devil's advocate and throw this into the mix! - [url="http://www.aguilaramp.com/products_cabinets_SL410.htm"]http://www.aguilaramp.com/products_cabinets_SL410.htm[/url] Only 4 ohms, but only 69lbs! Edited June 2, 2011 by skej21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Having owned both 2x12's & 1x12's, I've definitely decided I wouldn't go back to a 2x12 unless I had a larger vehicle and/or a roadie, lol. The 2x12 is about 70lbs and that's just too much for me to want to lug in and out of the car on any sort of regular basis. The DB is also a relatively deep cab if I remember rightly at about 18" and I found that a bit 'clumsy' to carry - you have to remember that I'm an old git of course I've found having a single 12 is great for rehearsals and smaller gigs. In fact the last gig I played at I used my second cab purely as a 'stand' for the first. Having both cabs on was just too boomy in the venue we were playing and a single cab worked just fine. So - summary from me is that the flexibility of two cabs always seems to work better for my use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plyguy Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) [quote]I'll play devil's advocate and throw this into the mix! - [url="http://www.aguilaramp.com/products_cabinets_SL410.htm"]http://www.aguilaramp.com/products_cabinets_SL410.htm[/url] Only 4 ohms, but only 69lbs![/quote] ha ha, nice but! £1069..... [url="http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/bass_amps_detail.asp?stock=11021117005529"]sl410[/url] Edited June 2, 2011 by plyguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plyguy Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='molan' post='1254513' date='Jun 2 2011, 08:14 PM']Having owned both 2x12's & 1x12's, I've definitely decided I wouldn't go back to a 2x12 unless I had a larger vehicle and/or a roadie, lol. The 2x12 is about 70lbs and that's just too much for me to want to lug in and out of the car on any sort of regular basis. The DB is also a relatively deep cab if I remember rightly at about 18" and I found that a bit 'clumsy' to carry - you have to remember that I'm an old git of course I've found having a single 12 is great for rehearsals and smaller gigs. In fact the last gig I played at I used my second cab purely as a 'stand' for the first. Having both cabs on was just too boomy in the venue we were playing and a single cab worked just fine. So - summary from me is that the flexibility of two cabs always seems to work better for my use [/quote] 2 separate 12's it is then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plyguy Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 So, who's going to sell me their cabs then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='plyguy' post='1254517' date='Jun 2 2011, 08:16 PM']ha ha, nice but! £1069..... [url="http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/bass_amps_detail.asp?stock=11021117005529"]sl410[/url][/quote] Or 2 x SL112's [url="http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/bass_amps_detail.asp?stock=11021116592029"]http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/bass_amps_de...=11021116592029[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plyguy Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='molan' post='1254528' date='Jun 2 2011, 08:21 PM']Or 2 x SL112's [url="http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/bass_amps_detail.asp?stock=11021116592029"]http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/bass_amps_de...=11021116592029[/url][/quote] Still not in my budget I thought that with the new SL range coming out that people would be selling off their "heavy" DB cabs but that doesn't seem to be the case...maybe it's too early..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skej21 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) [quote name='plyguy' post='1254525' date='Jun 2 2011, 08:19 PM']2 separate 12's it is then! [/quote] £1069 at guitarguitar, which are not the cheapest by a long shot. As for buying 2 x 112s, I think that's a good move but like you said, they hardly ever pop up on here because most people who buy them, love them... and keep them! Good luck finding yourself the cabs and when you get them (and fall in love) let us know how you're getting on! Edited June 2, 2011 by skej21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Just to add.... when I got a DB210..I was torn with getting another one or going for a DB115... the DB210 is quite shallow and lays flat in my boot..which is not at all big.. 2x112 fit in ok as well...the 212 option wouldn't due to its depth I went for 2x210 thinking I would trade a little bottom end over a 115/210...but I don't think I'll notice it at all. 2x210 sound very big to me..as a few BC-ers said they would. Sound-wise, I'd tally up the cab dims of 2x1 single cab V a double...and you might find that the singles are shallower..which is good for loading..but taller..so you get back the same internal DIMS...????? Quite prepared to accept the DB212 is a very good cab..but any gains over the singles paired up would be minimal, IMO. There is enough testament here to confrim that 2 112 paired do not lack bottom end at all. WH tells me that the DB is comparable to the GS112's in his AB'd tests in that regard, so I'd say 2 DB112's would never struggle for bottom-end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 cough cough..price match ?? PM me for details, but it isn't rocket science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='plyguy' post='1254538' date='Jun 2 2011, 08:24 PM']Still not in my budget I thought that with the new SL range coming out that people would be selling off their "heavy" DB cabs but that doesn't seem to be the case...maybe it's too early.....[/quote] GS and DB 112 type cabs are around 40lbs so not a factor weight-wise to many...IME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='JTUK' post='1254549' date='Jun 2 2011, 08:30 PM']GS and DB 112 type cabs are around 40lbs so not a factor weight-wise to many...IME.[/quote] Yep, saving 10lbs isnt a massive deal to most. The DBs and GS cabs have been popular for a good few years now. PS - Pic of mine: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=49475"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?act=attach...st&id=49475[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 My 210 would sit very well on the top on that.... but I can't carry it....bug...!!! The 2x210 stack up well anyway. Would have loved to entertain the 212 but was just too big for my needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalpy Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) DBs + loud outdoor gig= new sensation never before experienced whilst playing. Trouser flapping but closer to waist level than the ankles. Focusses the mind mid-way through bleedin' JBG I can tell you. No, mine aren't for sale. Edited June 2, 2011 by scalpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plyguy Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 [quote name='scalpy' post='1254695' date='Jun 2 2011, 10:11 PM']No, mine aren't for sale.[/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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