dave_bass5 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 There are a couple of huge threads on TalkBass about these amps, loads of info and comparisons there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The Classic is apparently the same sound, but here are the features the RH have as extra: Very functional tuner Ability to use the excellent pedal Semi parametric EQ Ability to store 3 different sounds (virtually everything) and recall them quickly Headphone/aux in for practicing (I use this all the time) Digital output on rear for recording They both sound great, but the RH features make it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Got a Classic last year as I wanted a simple amp that sounded good, inspired confidence and was compact. Wouldn't swap it for the world now as I set it at the start of a gig and forget about it. Sounds killer, is very loud and I would only end up obsessing about tweaks if I had all the other functions. Plus the price difference is ludicrous in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 For me, the tuner alone is just about justification! I know I can always use a separate tuner, but it's more bits & a battery to maintain. The fact that the tuner is *always* there and on is brilliant. I'm also swung by the coolness of it - and the fact its settings are *so* visible in a dark venue. The presets - wanted them, but don't use them too much. The one slight benefit that the Classic has (other than price) is the dedicated Compressor knob, where the RH450 has it as a shift function. Ultimately, though, my philosophy has tended to be: if in doubt, go higher end. The pain of the cost is quickly forgotten, but the benefits are there fore ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='Alec' post='1130700' date='Feb 17 2011, 10:35 AM']For me, the tuner alone is just about justification! I know I can always use a separate tuner, but it's more bits & a battery to maintain. The fact that the tuner is *always* there and on is brilliant. I'm also swung by the coolness of it - and the fact its settings are *so* visible in a dark venue. The presets - wanted them, but don't use them too much. The one slight benefit that the Classic has (other than price) is the dedicated Compressor knob, where the RH450 has it as a shift function. Ultimately, though, my philosophy has tended to be: if in doubt, go higher end. The pain of the cost is quickly forgotten, but the benefits are there fore ever.[/quote] yeah, this is how i feel as well. It was seeing MarloweDK using one on youtube, specifically seeing the tuner all lit up, that first alerted me to these heads and i think the tuner is a fantastic idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I like the idea of a tuner, but already having a Boss TU2, wouldn`t change my Classic for the RH. Not interested in pre-sets, as once I have a good sound, I just stick with it. I`m very much a supporting bassist. If however I was starting out with no gear, or coming back from a lay-off, then the inclusion of this would probably swing it, as one less bit of gear (and associated lead) to carry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Lozz196' post='1130749' date='Feb 17 2011, 11:16 AM']I like the idea of a tuner, but already having a Boss TU2, wouldn`t change my Classic for the RH. Not interested in pre-sets, as once I have a good sound, I just stick with it. I`m very much a supporting bassist.[/quote] Same here. After i realised i never tune up during a gig, only the one time at sound check, i felt paying more of a built in tuner was not really practical, no matter how many lights it had on it. As for pre-sets/EQ, although i realise the TC is different form my MB SA450 that i run almost flat, i doubt i would use more than one EQ setting at a gig. I really wish i had taken one of the the classics's that were on here in Dec now. Hmmm, anyone want a SA450 lol. Edited February 17, 2011 by dave_bass5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) Well, I was using a couple of different sounds on my (Programmable) BDDI for different basses (I use a passive P/J and an active Ray), so they naturally translated into presets (the input gain can be preset on the RH, which I find very handy - you really don't want to get that wrong on a busy stage). Less faffing with the controls - 1 is Passive P, 2 is Ray, 3 is for the 'softer' setting for our more acoustic numbers. I am a simple creature, and I can cope with numbers which light up. As long as there's only 3... The downside of the always-on tuner is that if you play a bum note, the guitard can see what you've done... Edited February 17, 2011 by Muzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 [quote name='Muzz' post='1131000' date='Feb 17 2011, 01:41 PM']Well, I was using a couple of different sounds on my (Programmable) BDDI for different basses (I use a passive P/J and an active Ray), so they naturally translated into presets (the input gain can be preset on the RH, which I find very handy - you really don't want to get that wrong on a busy stage). Less faffing with the controls - 1 is Passive P, 2 is Ray, 3 is for the 'softer' setting for our more acoustic numbers. I am a simple creature, and I can cope with numbers which light up. As long as there's only 3... The downside of the always-on tuner is that if you play a bum note, the guitard can see what you've done... [/quote] The plus side though is that if you play a fretless you get to adjust your intonation to perfection on those slow drawn out notes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinehead Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 Thanks for all the advice everyone. Much appreciated. I seem to be leaning towards the Classic because I honestly don't think I would ever use the extra functions on the RH so I might as well save the money. Like dave_bass5, I tune before sound check and during the break only. Also, I tend to use one setting unless it's a reggae song and even then, I might just play at the neck. I'll report back when the moneys been spent. Thanks again. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus27 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 [quote name='machinehead' post='1133364' date='Feb 19 2011, 01:55 PM']Thanks for all the advice everyone. Much appreciated. I seem to be leaning towards the Classic because I honestly don't think I would ever use the extra functions on the RH so I might as well save the money. Like dave_bass5, I tune before sound check and during the break only. Also, I tend to use one setting unless it's a reggae song and even then, I might just play at the neck. I'll report back when the moneys been spent. Thanks again. Frank[/quote] So what did you get in the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinehead Posted March 9, 2011 Author Share Posted March 9, 2011 [quote name='Linus27' post='1155698' date='Mar 9 2011, 06:48 PM']So what did you get in the end?[/quote] Nothing yet Linus. I have my LMII and an Ashdown LG1000 as backup (great amp too actually) and not that many gigs for the next while, plus money is a little tight. Still leaning towards the Classic 450 over the RH450 but that damn Streamliner 9 is calling me as well. Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylchan Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 @davidak: could you outline how you removed the casing of your classic450? I bought one used that had a ding in the casing that I'd like to try to repair. Seems pretty straightforward to get the casing off, but just to be sure I don't wreck anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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