iconic Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) bash my balls with an iron bar, this is an easy tune, I can nail Rio and Girls On Film, Last Chance on The Stairway all of which are real busy tunes but, the timing of the verse of Hungry Like the Wolf is throwing me a tad.. the bass isn't in time with the the bass drum....well it is sometimes! the verse is 3 beats of E...are these triplets if are there 3 in a bar? the way it is now played now on the re-recording of Rio seems more straightforward, well it does to me? ...is that a Peavey? maybe just be me Edited December 15, 2010 by iconic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Play off the snare drum instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 It's kinda following the guitar's choppy rhythm style more than anything to my ears. Yes that's a Peavey Cirrus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 [quote name='iconic' post='1059839' date='Dec 15 2010, 06:33 PM']the bass isn't in time with the the bass drum....well it is sometimes! maybe just be me [/quote] Do you mean the pops from 2:32 (on the original version) onwards as an example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 It is a basic 4 from the drums with the bass giving it a backbeat.. The bass gives it the movement but follows the gtr riff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 It's different probably because he "can't" play it like the studio version, or "can't be arsed" learning how. I saw a long documentary once on Duran Durun. GF is a very, very big fan... John Taylor often did / does so many overdubs on his basslines he has to learn how to play them before they play live. Some of them he admitted to finding impossible to play if I remember correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelk27 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 [quote name='bigjohn' post='1060584' date='Dec 16 2010, 02:14 PM']It's different probably because he "can't" play it like the studio version, or "can't be arsed" learning how. I saw a long documentary once on Duran Durun. GF is a very, very big fan... John Taylor often did / does so many overdubs on his basslines he has to learn how to play them before they play live. Some of them he admitted to finding impossible to play if I remember correctly.[/quote] Rio, Seven And The Ragged Tiger and Powerstation are when he did this most. He doesn't make any attempt to disguise the fact that many of the lines on those albums are impossible to reproduce, as these are composites, both in terms of overdubs and transitions. When you listen closely to Rio you can hear particularly that many of the popped sections are overdubbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMX Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Never thought I'd enjoy listening to Duran Duran, but I do and John Taylor is one of my favourite bassists! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 The biggest problem is the lame drumming so not surprised the bass part needed tarting up somewhat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBass Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I agree!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 [quote name='noelk27' post='1060910' date='Dec 16 2010, 07:45 PM']Rio, Seven And The Ragged Tiger and Powerstation are when he did this most. He doesn't make any attempt to disguise the fact that many of the lines on those albums are impossible to reproduce, as these are composites, both in terms of overdubs and transitions. When you listen closely to Rio you can hear particularly that many of the popped sections are overdubbed.[/quote] I think I recall a dicussion on Talkbass where it was revealed one of the slap solos or complex slap parts on one of the Powerstation records was actually Bernard Edwards! However, John is a fairly good player even if he did create some unplayable stuff in the studio! The line to "Girls on Film" is really quite tricky when you look at it and try to get it bang on with the record! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntLockyer Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kXaX5D6Ng"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kXaX5D6Ng[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 My wife bought me the CD of 'Rio/Classic Album', very interesting, far more to this lot than a bunch of pretty student boys, some good stuff from the recording studio of 'straight' sounds before being 'mixed'....forgive my ignorance of proper terminology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 ..and who is GF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassaussie Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 [quote name='Chris2112' post='1074159' date='Jan 1 2011, 05:46 AM']I think I recall a dicussion on Talkbass where it was revealed one of the slap solos or complex slap parts on one of the Powerstation records was actually Bernard Edwards! However, John is a fairly good player even if he did create some unplayable stuff in the studio! The line to "Girls on Film" is really quite tricky when you look at it and try to get it bang on with the record![/quote] Bernard Edwards did the bass solo on "Get It On". [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kXaX5D6Ng"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kXaX5D6Ng[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 [quote name='bassaussie' post='1074223' date='Jan 1 2011, 10:30 AM']Bernard Edwards did the bass solo on "Get It On". [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kXaX5D6Ng"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kXaX5D6Ng[/url][/quote] Seeing that just made me think...it's the first, and only time, I have Bernard Edwards slapping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skej21 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 [quote name='iconic' post='1074186' date='Jan 1 2011, 09:14 AM']..and who is GF?[/quote] I imagine he means girlfriend (GF) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 [quote name='skej21' post='1074307' date='Jan 1 2011, 12:40 PM']I imagine he means girlfriend (GF)[/quote] Ahh, I was trying to think of a bassist [url="http://www.mysmiley.net"][/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBass Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 (edited) I must admit, I do enjoy playing the bass line to the song New Religion. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mfXm6Kaiws"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mfXm6Kaiws[/url] Edited January 1, 2011 by GBass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelk27 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 [quote name='bassaussie' post='1074223' date='Jan 1 2011, 10:30 AM']Bernard Edwards did the bass solo on "Get It On". [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kXaX5D6Ng"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kXaX5D6Ng[/url][/quote] No, that's an excerpt from a much longer video, showing Edwards, Taylor and Nile Rodgers working out the parts Taylor would eventually play. But, in the interview sections, while all parties are discussing the recording process, it's clearly stated that Taylor plays all the final versions on the finished work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapolpora Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Hey I've just found this: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9aBIpjPNnI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9aBIpjPNnI[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassaussie Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 [quote name='noelk27' post='1074904' date='Jan 1 2011, 11:59 PM']No, that's an excerpt from a much longer video, showing Edwards, Taylor and Nile Rodgers working out the parts Taylor would eventually play. But, in the interview sections, while all parties are discussing the recording process, it's clearly stated that Taylor plays all the final versions on the finished work.[/quote] The version I've always heard is that Edwards was asked to help John figure out a solo. They came up with the one on the record, but it was agreed simply to use Edward's original rather than have John re-record it. Taylor did the rest of the song, but the solo was Edwards. If you have a look around the internet, this seems to be pretty common knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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