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If your the salesman... then it would seem that way.

Alot of it is buzz. A FRFR cab should be exactly that. The only really true FRFR cabs seem to be the ones that are sporting DSP to make them so. Whilst it is theoretically possible to achieve a FRFRish passive cab, the majority that are marketed as such are not... but hey, it says FRFR so a fool and his money and all that* * maybe that's a bit unfair... if your modeller and (not)FRFR sound good together, it's good. Let your ears do the determining rather than the graphs. The reason I like DSP FRFR is that I like to take as much of the speaker out of the equation and have it all taken care of in modeller world. I think there are a lot of manufacturers selling as FRFR as they are using speakers that are typically less coloured in sound that you'd typical find in a guitar cab.

My current faves are - Ernie Ball volume pedal with insert cable. (Rubbish as a wah though, unmatchable for control over smooth transitions and volumes) Mission Engineering (General purpose and useful as a wah) The Reflex is great - especially if you need the multiple outs and space saving on the pedal boards. Obviously none of these are particularly cheap options... but its worth knowing that you can take a volume pedal and pair it with an insert cable to use an expression pedal* * Make sure whatever you use it with can set the max and min input ranges.

@Gottastopbuyinggearin relation to you questioning whether a sub would be enough for your bass... well, yeah - I think I've mentioned before, the most important frequencies for your bass lie in the 1st harmonic... so 82Hz for a bottom E or 62Hz if you are running with a B string. Both of those frequencies should easily be able to be covered by tops. If you put too much of the fundamental through the sub, it will all come out as mud anyway. The main advantage of the sub is taking the energy sapping kick (circa 50-60Hz) out of your tops power amps.

No - she's not musical at all. She just wears the outfits better.

https://www.festivalofun.co.uk/Ghost_Face_-_Officially_Licensed_Scream_Mask/p5573329_18630893.aspx Although I think my other half does the look a lot better... (She's got better leggings, better footwear (my back couldn't take those... especially on the cobbles)... and above all, a better figure!) - but I have got the white bass... which looks great for the all black and white look. Have to say, the mask is great for visibility... I was MDing on the night so needed good visibility to see what was going on.

My gig was a bit like this -

You'll hear the bass - but to actually feel a thump in your chest you need to shift a lot of air. You'll hear it... but if you are thinking of reproducing the sort of sub lows when you go to an arena gig... you need a lot of subs. Dont worry, your subs will give a lot more body and lows to the band sound... you've done a good thing!

That sub is not going to make you feel any bass. You may want to look at a backbeat or a woojer if that is what you are looking for.

The sub will be too low for your backline. Theres not much in terms of note definition coming out of your sub.

Nooooooooo! Just joking.

Some more info here - https://line6.com/support/topic/33145-whats-going-on-with-g70g75-in-europe/

I think it always takes one person in the band to be the research monkey I guess. I think I have always been that guy... whether it's mixing, IEMs, PA, video, lighting, photography etc. I guess I'm the studious type that spends hours and hours and hours researching... because nobody else in the band is going to... 😛

What a cool alternative setup! Simple, yet very cool.

Indeed - the people who tend to poo poo subs fall into three categories. 1. People who have never tried them 2. People who have bought sub/s that are too small compared to the rest of their setup (they expect miracles from a budget 10" sub) 3. People who have bought ridiculously big subs without taking into account the effort and transport required to shift them For me, it's a bit like monitors. People always skimp on monitors... and then wonder why you can't put bass through them. Get your setup right... let your PA do what it's meant to do... and buy the right gear for the job. A PA can outgun a bass rig, keyboard amp... everything... and it will sound much better out front.

Ha ha. Yeah, without biting too much, there's always a bit of a snakeoil claim on this. Is the pseudo physics actually real... or even perceivable? By the way, I have a set of 64s... and I would always advocate that ambience ports are bad news, especially when you are somebody craving bass. However... I have the M20 modules in there for the greater isolation as I perceive it to be less fatiguing than when I put the solid (orange) blocks in. Whether this is actually true or just me trying to convince myself that there is a difference, is open for debate. When the band is playing, the real world difference between the solid block and M20 is negligable... so I just sticked with the M20 in case it is actually doing anything like reducing fatigue or pressure. The other consideration is, is that I run A12ts... so even if there is a loss of bass due to the Apex modules, then it's not as if there would ever be a lack of bass... because they are absolute bass monsters with so much bass on tap it's ridiculous...

That's the can of worms opened.

I think that ship has sailed now... especially if he's spent up on those Shures. The Shures will sound better for listening to music.... but for live use, headroom is king.

OK, there's twos ways of looking at this. Can your PA produce a fairly flat output? Yes? OK. Does it do it with low levels of distortion? Err.... Ever wonder why some PAs can be loud (I know thats an awful term to use without any measurement) without killing your ears and getting your ears all really fatigued? That's most likely because they are reproducing the frequencies, at volume, with less distortion than other setups that do kill your ears... ...yet if you were to meter them, both setups are reproducing the whole frequency range.

And a 3db boost for free.

No - not at all. There's very little sub 50hz that is useful in a band context. If you end up pumping out those kinda sub sub lows, its going to make your band sound pretty muddy. Chest thump exists between 50 and 65hz. But in order to feel chest thump, you need to move a great deal of air... Remember these are 12s - so its going to be more what you can hear rather what you can feel. Also, its worth remembering that when you feel big bass at gigs, there's usually some sine wave trickery going on, especially with kick drums where the majority of the discernible audible content is being in the 1st and 2nd harmonic range. With subs, what you are buying, is a speaker and amp that is geared for reproducing bass. Obviously. However - if you get a top and try and load a load of bass through it, you'll soon be eating into the headroom of that amp and cab and it'll start to suffer. The sub takes a sub section of frequencies that are very difficult to amplify well - and focuses on reproducing those frequencies and those frequencies alone. By removing the need to amplify those hard punishing frequencies from your tops, your PA setup gains more headroom and should sound better for it. So yes, low end cut... but you'd be amazed how many people can't even get that right.

Primarily, as a minimum, something to implement a HPF at around 50Hz+ and compression/limiting.

They are good if you got a lot of processing to keep the low end in check. If you are thinking about shoving a kick through then and thinking it’ll be fine just straight through the desks without processing, they’ll fart out. edit - used to play with a band now and again who had a pair of them as it’s all the band leader could fit in the car. For the whole they were good - as I say, with processing.

I'd be quite surprised if the MB3 could cop much of what the MB2 can... the EBS sound is pretty much baked in. I know their direction has changed from RnB to more Rock and Metal... but the essence of EBS seems to be in all their amp still... (although I did see they put the better sounding* HD350 preamp in the limited edition version of it's replacement). * yes, tone is subjective, others may disagree with me. DISCLAIMER: I have not tried the MB3 yet.. but loved the MB2.