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Had a quick look - caution required! Certainly the double stop section of the solo is all wrong. The BP version was accurate.

What does great musicianship mean in the context of a tribute band? On the one hand, I would expect APF's guitarist to be able to play exact, note perfect, feel perfect, expression perfect renditions of Gilmour's playing. On the other hand, if he's that good, what's he doing pretending to be someone else?

Bass player mag, June 2011.

1. Join a band Keep trying and you will find like minded musicians. 2. Learn your favourite songs (and [u]any[/u] music) by ear. Tab is rubbish, youtube videos are rubbish. Put the song on and work it out yourself - keep trying - you will get it. Tips and clues from your bandmates (see 1.) will help. Learning like this will develop your ear and be invaluable to you in future. 3. Play bass every day. Goes without saying!

[quote name='Doctor J' timestamp='1327852754' post='1517643'] Excellent. People are [i]always[/i] asking me to do solo bass stuff at parties. Now I'll have something to play, which is great, because nothing gets the party started like songs tapped on an unaccompanied bass. [/quote] Hilarious!

Very interesting point. Some seem unable to accept someone as a good player unless they display "awesome chops". To me, for example, Cliff Williams's playing is just as amazing as Stu Hamm's or Victor's. I feel no need to see him slap and tap at high speed to "prove" that he's a great player. Yet this attitude still seems to exist - almost as though people are uncomfortable accepting someone's ability unless they've been seen to indulge in high speed technical junk.

A few of mine: Janick Gers Lloyd Hunnigan Bear Grylls Gloria Hunniford Eddie the Eagle Martin Roberts (Homes under the hammer) Father Christmas

[quote name='witterth' timestamp='1327425082' post='1511026'] Stingray eq, Allright Now, this works for me,no treble, mid half way and bass full and defintley use your fingers. high G/D/F# at the dusty end there may well be a kind of "thumbed" low E in between those notes, never could quite tell Chorus is mainly A & F#/E stay away from the D now! [/quote] As mentioned above, there is a VITAL open A between and along with the high notes. So many players miss it and ruin the part as a result. It's not hard to do! Edit: Play the low part with an open A too, rather than 5th fret to make the next bit easier. A bit of muting is required for this.

The important thing is - did he play the open A rhythm against the high G/D F#/D, or cop out like so many players do?

I wish I got the same salary as the crew!

[b]Get in a band. Learn hundreds of songs by ear. That is all.[/b]

[quote name='andy67' timestamp='1327082092' post='1506236'] Right! Going against the grain here! Drums and bass are the most important factors within AC/DC. They allow Angus, Malcolm and Brian to do their stuff. Listen to Phil on drums, although it sounds simple, he plays a lot off the beat and the bass has to match this. It is not an easy job being the bass player for AC/DC because you have to nail it, stay out of the way of Angus, Malcolm and Brian while being absolutely and completely consistent! Do it badly at your peril! Everyone knows AC/DC and demand it be played properly. its just rock n roll mate! andy [/quote] Entirely correct! Anyone who puts an AC/DC tribute band together and immeadiately seeks out Angus and Bon/Brian thinking they can get any old rhythm section to back them up has got it very wrong indeed!

Hmmm, a clip of Billy Sheehan doing exactly this has been on youtube for some time.

You must get your ears looked at first, they have to be clear of wax.

Theory is not like hard maths that has to be studied seperately to playing. I learnt theory as I went along. When I played something, or someone showed me something, I was interested to know what it was, so I looked it up and remembered it. Theory is really just a way of putting names to things (sometimes things you can already do). It starts with learning the names of the notes. I kept a neck diagram nearby when I first started and when I played a note, I looked to see its name - simple!

Listen and "feel it".

[quote name='Clarky72' timestamp='1325956859' post='1490401'] Oh yeah, i love the Talas original, but i do love the Vai/Roth newer version too. I actually heard an amazing version live with Mr Big, Billy singing and playing with Paul Gilbert on guitar, now that was awesome... [/quote] I think Roth's version was an improvement on the original. There are a good few live Mr. Big recordings of the song with Eric and/or Billy singing and of course the version on Vai's Live at the Astoria DVD.

[b]Never liked W & C first, Fair warning is the best album, I think. Some great playing from all the band on VH II as well.[/b]

Glad to see a mention of the lack of Michael Anthony - not a reunion without him. There seems to have been very little interest in WVH's bass playing. Not seen any features on him in bass mags.

They forgot the bit where you take some gear out to the car, only to hear "sorry mate, pub's closed" from a member of staff as you try to get back in to continue loading out.

Just to clarify: by "show what you can do", I just meant doing what you do and doing it well. It could be solid quavers all night. I didn't necessarily mean, flashy, show off licks, though people often assume you mean this whan you talk about great playing!

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1325766156' post='1487226'] Probably 1 & 2 for me. Although I can riff-like-a-mutha, in both of my bands I play the holding role, so never really show my capabalities on the instrument, therefore 3 is most likely not me. [/quote] If you're laying it down solidly, then you're definitely showing what you can do!

A chance to get together with friends for a bit of fun? A chance to experience the thrill of seeing an audience dance and sing along, knowing that you're partly responsible for them having a great night? A chance to express yourself on your instrument, communicate with the audience and, to some degree, show what you can do? Although I play in covers bands, I have to say, for me it's primarily the third option. Yes, even when I'm playing Brown eyed girl for the 300th time! Maybe I'm kidding myself, but I can't help but see it this way.

Does anyone know if the neck profile on the Tele is a full fat "c" as on the original, or a flattened "c" as on the Squier TB. Seems impossible to find out online, but essential to me to know before I get one. Thanks.

[b]I'd start with the original John Lord solo and do your own approximation of it. Then you've just done what Sheehan did.[/b]