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[quote name='tedgilley' post='1025368' date='Nov 16 2010, 12:02 AM']A player at a recent gig commented that the sound of the bass 'didn't seem to come out of the speaker; it just [i]is[/i].' The fidelity is second to none.[/quote] Your Schroeder is the same as mine. The 400watt neo version. Which is indicated by the 'L' otherwise its the ceramic 500watt ver. (which i assumed by your title). These mini cabs are amazing. Sooooo light yet so powerful. The quote above perfectly explains Schroeder full stop. They are designed to be like that, filling a room with sound instead of just firing it from the speaker. so it sound just as good if not better standing at the back of a venue. Only problem with my Schroeder.....because they are SO small and light, getting either a 1212 or 1210 would make barely a difference in weight and transport. Being just as easy to carry. Yet the 1210 is like 800/850 watts. Wow. So, schroeders only problem is making you want more schroeder! Jorg, you are a bad man indeed Very solid cabinet overall, dont let its size fool you, cause it will fool your drummer

+1 to no one cares! Because, really no one cares apart from yourself! (or us, and the few engineers that play bass or the few guitarist in a 3 piece) Id go and complain alot, not aggressively, but pushy like a guitarist. When he asks, tell him you want more than mud and a bit of attack in certain sounds, find an uppermid freq that works best and cut through the most. Done

+1 to the Schroeder cabinets and a micro head. Its basically going to come too: GenzBenz Shuttle 6.0 or the LM2/3 When you try them out, youll probably find the little mark the warmer, especially when you leave it flat and use the filters. If its warmest your after, the little mark will best suit. However, the shuttle 6 is a great bit of gear, and personally i'd pick it over the two. Very transparent amp, however that mid control can give any tone on demand. Those Schroeder cabinets are amazing. You need to try one out then youll understand. The also have a lowmid freq. Bump which youd probably like.

I think a black guard would go real nice on a CV Jazz, with the Oly White body an all! Just wondering, does Squier sell parts, or even a black plate for a CV? If not where would be the place to start looking for one that fits? Cheers!!

The SUBs are Poplar and the SBMMs are Swamp Ash. Theres lots of grain in the swamp ash, its also softer than the standard Ash used for EBMM. Not sure if anyone has seen a stripped body of a SUB? Right mess under that half inch finish!! Ofcourse, every wood is different regardless. String mutes? Hmmm, it would definitely would give it that Classic feel, but thats just a way of cutting back costs. Same as the lighter tuners, cheaper electronics and general build quality. But still these SBMM feel as solid as any SR ive played. Ofcourse you can always mod it and make it more Classic Ray sounding than it is. Nordstrand Pup and East Pre anyone? For the money, vs the standard EB Stingray this is a cracker. Purely because of the neck. Just as the SUB 5s are sought after because the scratchplate and controls are that of a SR4.

Well im glad i got my CV jazz instead of purchasing the Ray34. Means i can find one these This looks like a corker! Slim Glossy Maple neck.......i take it the pup is Alnico? Also, as its a Classic ray, i can see that theyve gone back to the original 2 'tabs' on the top of the pickup. I find this much more comftable for thumb placement. That was why i didnt jump straight in for the Ray34, that and it needed a decent setup. Ahhhhhhhh GAS overload........ Any other finishes annouced? The Swamp Ash in Natural finsh looks sexy!

[quote name='JTUK' post='1082196' date='Jan 8 2011, 03:19 PM']yes.........way too much, plus too many guys use the pre full on. Not a very subtle pre amp IMV...and East can be the same, but who runs them flat out, FFS..!![/quote] I read a quote once from a pretty well know guitarist, Tom Erak. "For how expensive all this gear is it has to sound good with everything at 10!" He plays 2 Orange full stacks I use eden, which has a pretty sensitive preamp (i dare move them up 3 or so db or itd explode ha!) same with the Rays pre. A little does alot! Its all about EQ anyway! A jazz has its own basic curve, so does the stingray. They are good at getting that tone people buy them for, if you want a jazz sound, get a jazz. If you want a Stingray sound.....get a Stingray. If it really has too be in ONE bass get a Sterling HS, im not sure what the electronics are like but youll find a nice jazz tone i bet you. It doesnt do half bad as a Ray either.

The Pingray is great! Funny how the jazz body suits perfect +1 With getting a Deluxe Precision. If not how about the MM + neck jazz pup method? Theres a Cort in my local shop with this. It plays amazing, sounds even better and doesnt look too bad for the asking price. Ive seen some nice Corts go for pennies quite recently. Lakland would be the next best thing.

Why no Double Humbucker versions? I like the sound of getting the Black HB Jag and put another HB in. More so than a HB and Split neck pup anyway. The Jag HBs are just L2000 with a wierd looking scratch plate

LH500 It was made with the words 'less is more' in thought. Its flat at B:2 M:8 T:3 i believe so its got a massive mid scoop, remember this when you try it out. It was built to be easy to get a great sound. Apparently it sounds great at any setting. If anything, its missing a knob, a Gain! Even though it has a tube you dont have the option to push it so its constantly 'clean'. Only thing thats stopped me from buying one so far is the weight. Same with the peavey. everyone has mentioned about the dash on the peavey. I just find myself getting lost, and sound/tone suffering because.

Thought this is ideal for the thread: [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=704484"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=704484[/url] Looks a very good cab! Basically, my first build is going to be a cab to put along side my schroeder. Id prefer 2 speakers, for a few reasons. However, i understand that i only NEED 1 for the purpose of pushing the midrange. So for now i will make a small sealed cab and see how it sounds. But, i would still like to build a 2x8 to sit above a 12. Would it be really that hard to build? I know my knowledge isnt the best, but ive been sitting here a while struggling what to write. So bear with me if things dont make sense. So here goes. I know the cabinets would need a crossover, but would each cab be full range on its own? I know the 8s wouldnt go as low as the 12 but id like to be able to use either/or cab by itself. I ask this because the amp is stereo, so the 12 wouldnt be able to act as a Bass Only cab unless i ran it bridged. Cheers

Hey guys, thanks for all the input. Just so you guys get the idea: i chose the 2x8 build for several reasons. Most i mentioned before (weight, portability ect ect) increased midrange is another factor but maybe the biggest reason is having all the headroom in such a compact (and splittable) rig. As it is my first build, and is being built for use with the 4ohm 112 i will be taking what seems the easiest route. Sealed 2x8 enclosure (lined horizontally, so its as small as possible). The box design can be easily done. Just abit stumped on the wiring. If someone could present a rough wiring diagram of the speakers wired to 4ohms, then to speakon thatd be great. The idea of a single 8 sounds good but i need the 2 x 8 to handel the 500watts of power. Im quite like the idea of the 12 and 2 8s. You all must understand that this project is specifically being built to be coupled with my schroeder. I have been thinking about designing a 12 + 2x8 for the floor up. If done properly i think it could sound great! The plan would basically take the crossover and tweeter and place it in the 2x8 cab, leaving the 12 by itself! Porting for both cabinets, id then use fanes, and keep them tuned to get as flat as possible frequency response. SORTED! Ofcourse that will come after this and this first build is to give me an idea of what im working with and howthe config will sound.

Thanks Phil for clearing up my 'in theory' reply. As for lining them vertically.....As i still want to keep the cab compact as possible, i think i'll measure it up and see what dimensions i come up with, maybe not fully verticle but definitely diagonal. Ive spoken to a friend who wouldnt mind making the cuts and putting it together for me. I just need to 'find' a cutlist, ha! I shall download winisd tonight and start my desiging. I do want to keep this build relativly easy but i want to get the best possible sound while keeping it compact and as in expensive. So, tube porting sounds the best way to go or how hard would it be to design a Schroeder style porting? Cutting the corners from the speaker baffle board? Cheers for the input guys!

So i was walking through maplin yesterday, looking at the speakers and noticed some Eminince 8" 225watt bass/mid drivers which got me thinking! I need to build myself a 2x8" cabinet to sit ontop of my schroeder 112 cab. The reason for a 2x8 cab is because the drivers are relitivly cheap, the are small, and fairly light. Also, my Sch provides my thump and (in theory) my 2x8 can give me some attack in my sound. While the project is in progress, i plan to purchase a LH1000. I will have the LH1000 running 500watts into each cab, i can also balance between each cab too. So, as follows is my plan for the cabinet build: 2x eminence beta 8s OR 2x Fane Sovereign 8s. Both 225watts each. 550watts @ 4 Ohms No tweeter. 17"w x ??"h x 12"d. It seems pretty simple to be honest, i wont need a crossover as i have no tweeter. This will be my first build so i am unsure about a few things which is why ive posted here. Basically, the biggest point is tuning/porting my cabinet. Ive tried to look up guides ect on the net but i really dont understand. If someone can provide an idiots guide to tuning a cabinet thatd be great! So, as i will just be using the 2 drivers is it as easier as wiring them into a speakon socket at 4ohms? I was also thinking about putting a passive tone control on the back allowing me to roll off treble of the cab. Also, a few ideas ive thought about/need help with? Which drivers? The fanes are cheaper but looking at the beta8s responce chart they will give me the sound i need (boost around 1k). General points about porting. Is the depth of 12" going to be to much for the 8s? Shall i seperate the drivers? Tubes or 'eden style' porting or schroeder (cut corner) style porting. Id imagine this is harder to get sounding good, but much lighter So thats pretty much it. Pointers on porting please cheers!

Tinyviking: Dont worry about the sound clip i'll have to look around the music stores around Christmas, theyll probably have them in soon! That rig looks great by the way! (love the lights, do you use them live?) and the SR5 is a beaut! Its funny really, i remember mailing Hartke a few years back saying they should produce hyDrive 2x12s. Explaining that the already produce the 12" speakers in the HyDrive combos, so why not a cabinet!? If youd like to let me know how things are when you get your LH1000 thatd be great. Another question, are you keeping your HA3500? I have one also, and wouldnt mind having an opinion on the HA vs. LH

Well i think i may be well on the look out for a LMII. It would go perfect for a mini rig with my 112. How would anyone rate the LM 250? Think those 250watts are LOUD watts? I dont think that'd be enough power though! If i get an oppertunity in the near future i will be grabbing a 1210L! And once again the LM would be perfect!

£341 on thomann! Is there any videos released by hartke showing these off? 2 x 112 w/LH500 Or 4 x 112 w/LH1000 I would like to hear the power of that big rig

Haha! Thats what everyone over on talkbass thinks too! Ashame a new LMII is just a bit over my price range. Ill have to keep an eye out on the sale page! For my price range (well quite abit under actually!) are ther LH500 and the little giant 1000 (£250!!??), theres also a new amp from Bugera. Im really liking the tube frontend and general simpleness to the LH500, they are missing a control though..... a GAIN control to push that tube.....I also have an EHX Tube (cyro) waiting to be put into it! But for sheer power to size ratio the little giant is even cheaper to! Anyone compared this to a LMII? Obviously the LM would be the choice but the little giant is one of the cheapest mini heads out there (worth buying anyway!) The bugera is 550watts and the preamp has 4 tubes, graphic EQ... Sounds intresting for about the same price as the little giant. Havnt heard too much about the company however. Could be another Behringer, or harley benton haha!

So, i have just purchased my 112+L Schroeder! Gigged it saturday and it was great! So much power for such a little box! However the tone im getting from my Eden is too smooth for me, i try and push the gain but it doesnt like that one bit! So im on the look out for a new amp, something that can get me a nice deep bass tone but with a little push can get me a nice forceful slap tone. Ive just joined a cover band, we play funk/soul stuff, so thats why i need the range of tones. Any ideas? Cheets!