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[quote name='BigRedX' post='67503' date='Sep 29 2007, 09:26 PM']The great thing about David Jay's bass playing with Bauhaus is half the time you don't realise it's fretless until you hear the occasional slides he puts in.[/quote] Sorry ,but best David J track for me is 'Shes in parties' ......great intro,the BBC session version is the best.

[quote name='Shaggy' post='67502' date='Sep 29 2007, 09:21 PM']Generally find anything short of balls-out rock, and especially balllads/acoustic numbers, works better on fretless so long as you keep it subtle.[/quote] I dunno,If you wanna hear fretless in Death metal you cant go far wrong with 'Individual thought patterns' by Death. Steve D's work with Sadus is hot too.

[quote name='bass_ferret' post='67449' date='Sep 29 2007, 06:49 PM']Like a Warwick. I find them a bit chunky although others obviously love em.[/quote] Agreed,Ive tried a 5,which was nice,and very hefty,which is a tonal pluspoint with me,but I prefered the 2nd hand G&L that was in the corner (still the only 5 string that FELT like it was a 5 string in my hands). nice finishes..... But I do think there is better out there.

If Im bored I play fretless,its fun. playing Iron maiden tunes on fretless is a challenge.

Never had the thought of doing that.......! Let alone courage to..... Saying that Ive swapped a few lines with Yves Carbonne and GBC in my time so..I might try that thanks... (Dear Phil....Whats the opening chord to.....)

[quote name='slaphappygarry' post='67128' date='Sep 28 2007, 09:04 PM']And.... is there a questing in there? I love that album. Its my 'sitting on a train on a rainy day' album G[/quote] Im trying to find the score,either to buy or to copy....the question is in the thread. Ive rooted about amazon,and cant find the score anywhere. Bach stuffs pretty easy to find,but I really like Glass's work.

Im trying to transcribe,solo piano pieces to 4 string Bass guitar..and Im having a few issues re chord choice (trying to get the right tonalitys within chord choices) and its hard given the limited choice available on a 4 string instrument....and the inherent sonic limitations that it has. Anyway Im doing this by ear,and Im trying to 'do' the 'Metamorphosis' pieces by Philip Glass....

Seriously,No one can do a Smiths song justice,except Mozz and the gang. MUSE stuff goes down well,but you have to a sh1t hot band to get away with it,and you have to get the tones right(Bass distortion etc).

[quote name='john_the_bass' post='66268' date='Sep 27 2007, 07:02 AM']we've (bizarrely) been asked to do a wedding in November and have to learn some covers. I'm struggling with going underground by the Jam and have resorted to winging it now - I've only spent about 5 hours on it and it's not bad, but I can't get the rhythms spot on - it shifts between 3/4, 4/4 and 5/4[/quote] Break it down ito sections.....learn each individually,then just piece it together. "Down in a tube station at midnight" is harder,and Eton rifles is a stamina test.

[quote name='niceguyhomer' post='65188' date='Sep 25 2007, 09:09 AM']I only play to gig, I love playing live and if I wasn't in a band I probably wouldn't pick up a bass or guitar again - that's my choice. I certainly wouldn't look down on anyone or make stupid comments to anyone who chose to do otherwise. It's your time and you fill it with whatever gives you pleasure and b*llocks to the brain-dead fungi who talk through their dirtboxes.[/quote] +billions Last half had me spitting my toast!

ANYONE given the time and finances can purchase an uberinstrument and amplificaton,and then polish it and never really learn how to play it,or have it on show in the front room for all to see. ANYONE can sit in their house or bedroom and write about it on this forum...take photos etc I heard a band complain a month or two back along,that 20 gigs a year was 'To much'. Said band members would often sneer that I did covers/functions,and I wasnt a 'real' musician,because I was not in or doing 'original' music with a band. I then pointed out then length of their set (40mins to 1 hr of metal) and then took the timeframe of their gigging schedule (1 gig every say 15-28 days depending on time and distance),the number of musical styles (1...being..well....Metal) and then (and please excuse me but it needed to be said) the standard of equipment used (OK OK OK,not everyone must have the latest greatest modern/vintage plank/noisebox in my eyes,but Ive worked HARD on/offstage to have what I have,and I dont get complaints from soundmen or band members so.....well we can leave that hot potato). Onstage I will do between 5-7 styles of music I will play 2-3 hrs a night I will learn Basslines....no...scratch that...MUSIC from some of the greatest musicians the world has known in modern times. I will travel,lug and chug,myself to many many a dive of a pub and give them a show,get up the next day and do it all again,after a days work. I will read charts to stuff I dont know,usually off the cuff and can communicate that information to other 'musicians' onstage (usually keys) thus in theory no tune is a no go (yeah right..you want me to do Zappa.....I aint THAT good...yet). I will sing (not just stand there like an open mouthed moron) and 'perform'. I will communicate with the crowd,not just announce the next tune..... Its not about the money,But ,and this is the cinch...I get paid......not a Kings ransom,but I get paid,and I like doing it,and it makes people and me happy,Im not sitting about bitching about the monitor mix (although I have I must admit on a few occasions) or compareing/Hating other local bands,Im generally far far FAR happier a person,than when I play,people can never walk away saying what I do or my standard of playing/singing/performance is SH1T.....And I dont spend all day kissing arse,begging for a tour support. You can imagine the above was compressed into a conversation involving colourful words,but you get my point. And to finish it off...just to irritate the 'gear' obsessed 'musicians' around me.......I listed my gear,and how much it was,and how I paid for it.....

[quote name='bass_ferret' post='64931' date='Sep 24 2007, 06:33 PM']I find myself agreeing with you again Ross - must be more careful. It might have helped had they made it clear it was a piss take on the whole "relic" scene people might not have got so upset - but then maybe they thought people would have the wit to work that out for themselves. [/quote] thats the 4th.

Jacks,Cables,strings,pickups,Bass's,Amps,cabs........my own mind. Ive broken them all. I dont tickle my strings,I just want MAXIMUM tone,and more importantly,I want to put on a show.... If you want to not break strings..dont windmill,jump about,dance,hurl your Bass....or yourself around the room,smack,headbutt or punch the guitar,hit lighting rigs,mic stands...other members...etcetc...dont enjoy yourself like I do. If you break strings,so what..........Its not the end of the world, Poor technique,hardware,cheap strings......acid perspiration...none are reasons or excuses in my book for why they break on me,I say its because of the good old fashioned reason called simply 'Playing'. I like them bright so what better excuse to change them by breaking them!!!!! Mine break at the bridge,nut.....on the fingerboard...over the pickup.......somedays I think they are scared to get out of the packet given the punishment they know they're gonna get! But hey,I get paid and the audience call us back.........and thats the point.

just because hes better than you.

Why does this whole thread make me think,the phrase "Who cares, some of you need to get out more"? Its just an instrument....an object. There are bigger things occurring in the world.

Dude THAT IS NASTY! love it!

Mansons in Exeter is easily the best music shop in the UK,both in selection and staff 'attitude'. Very very professional.

Neither.....Buy a Fender P and change the pickup. Get yourself a Sansamp DI and decent cables.

Does it really matter??

Once heard 2 great pieces of advice regarding 'STAGE PERSONA' RE:Playing 1,Make the hard stuff look easy and the easy stuff look amazing. RE:Performing 2,If your gonna move,exaggerate the movement.

THEY LOOK GROWLY!!! Is the tone pi55ed?

Ive touched on this before re:what we do compared to what people THINK we do. best comments I ever recieved were "You shouldnt be doing that" (From another Bassist in a pub,I was moving about onstage....getting the crowd into it) "I never saw a Bassist do that before...EVER" (A flattering comment from a guitarist and a singer,when I asked what 'that' was the answer was "Play up the neck"........"well the frets are there" I replied) "You should be doing this" (From a singer.....The keys player then asked why...adding..."Because..thats...boring") I must admit,Im not a plodder as I call them,If its not fun why do it? Ok the money talks,but everything has to have life behind it,and reason. Be it Cliff Williams to Mick Karn.

Learnt Upright. How to read properly....and drunk less. BUT I still have time.

[quote name='ped' post='61083' date='Sep 16 2007, 11:26 AM']Searching google is pretty useless - I tried 'Dodgy basses' and it came up with a GB ;0)[/quote]

In those situations you describe Alun,seriously speaking,when writing or playing for those parts (given the constant is actually the ride cymbal usually in metal terms anyway) do you try to double the kick (playing a screwy pattern) or just ride through along with the guitars?....Making the 'WALL" as such. I know,for me writing in oddtime is a swine,I dont like making life difficult......but I do 'feel' odd some days (dont we all)