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What am I to do mate? Name the guy & get slagged for calling someone out publicly? I took a decision not to based on that. Bit of an assumption there buddy & the wrong one I'm afraid.

Loving the yolks folks

Yes I am doing that now just clearing up the point that I had no point

Bleedin ell. Let's say the guy reckoned the amp is worth £500. And used the shortfall to get me to part with more cash than I offered initially - which was only just under his asking price. Then the guy is suddenly selling the amp at £650 which he obviously thought it was worth initially. There's your deviousness. That is my point.

Succinctly put Bonzodog. I will shortly go home, play said lovely bass, sleep on it & resolve to forget the bad feeling if not the marked card

Nice to have a healthy thread going on here, I usually kill em stone dead. I get the buyer beware/market economics thing, I really do. Christ knows I'm old enough. Again, my basic point was the obvious deviousness involved at the outset which I didn't expect from a Basschatter. Whilst I respect everyone's opinions, it's nice to see the odd contributor who agrees on the community spirit angle. Like I say, with that gone we're knackered. On here, in everyday life.

I think you miss the point there Discreet. It's about the principle & a matter of trust within a community. If we ain't got that, we're screwed. Judging by the weight of your reply I guess you'd do/have done exactly the same as the seller. If you're fine with that that's great for you & it's good to know who's up front & who ain't. I won't name the fella as it'll start a battle I don't intend dedicating days/weeks to. It's a nice guitar & the feeling will wear off soon I'm sure. We're all allowed a rant tho eh? & we've all got the option of ignoring threads that we don't agree with or wind us up.

Yes, GAS did indeed play its part. Based on previous sales it would seem the amp wasn't undervalued & as I say I'll be shocked if he gets anywhere near what he's asking (not to mention p1ssed off). Just doesn't seem like the spirit of Basschat, I could swallow it easier if it was Gumtree or some such but this is a community of people kinda looking out for each other, or so I thought. Guess there's no fool like an old fool.

Agh. I've just done a trade for a guitar in a part-ex for cash + an amp on here and it's left me feeling a bit sour. The deal went like this. The seller told me what he reckoned my amp was worth which was slightly below what I reckoned based on previous sales on here, but not by enough to matter to me. Value of amp according to seller + cash came to just under £50 or so below what the seller was asking so after the usual back & fore I agreed to up the cash to make the whole deal just under the original asking price. Fine, everyone happy, I go home with a nice bass & the seller's got a great amp to keep or flip. Except almost immediately I see the seller trying to flog the amp for WAY more than his reckoned figure. I know it's up to people what they do with what they've got but it's left me feeling a bit disappointed. It doesn't feel like the regular Basschat way of doing things to wildly & knowingly undervalue gear as leverage in a trade, whether the guy actually gets what he's asking for the amp or not. At the least, don't press me for extra cash if you're already thinking you've got a very sweet deal. Not nice. I've been stung before & it's all lessons learned etc. but feeling a bit p1$$ed off atm. Probably more so because the guy seemed genuine and it's not the way I'd operate. Tell me I'm right to feel like this or to man up & chalk it up!

Thanks guys, sounds about right. As long as there's a good chance it'll hold its value I can justify keeping it (to myself & the missus) while I make my mind up. Looking forward to seeing the Genzler cabs, didn't know about those

Given the high regard for Genz Benz gear across the board & it's discontinuation as a brand (nice one Fender), is GB gear likely to appreciate in value as the years go by? I picked up a ShuttleMax 12.2 recently as a one-in-one-out replacement for my GBE 750. I'm finding it difficult to let the 750 go though. The 12.2 has definitely made life easier on load ins/outs & whilst to my ears it doesn't quite have the slam of the 750 (subjective I know, but you hear what you hear), I can live with the slight difference. However the chance that I may switch back to Class A at some point is stopping me from shifting the 750, along with a notion that well-maintained 'modern classic' gear will be sought after in years to come after production has long since ceased. Any comparable examples of SS/hybrid amps going up in value? Or will this just not happen with new innovations popping up all the time?

Bought a Genz Benz ShuttleMax 12.2 from Kevin recently. Excellent transaction in every way - amp condition as described, full working order, quick send. Couldn't recommend more highly.

[quote name='mrtcat' timestamp='1441572298' post='2859997'] It's perfectly acceptable for a bride / groom to request a small handful of tunes but if you are going to do weddings you really need to have a band policy on such things. Most of the bands I've done function work with will use a booking agreement. It states that the band does what it does and will learn x many tunes for you but ultimately the band decides the bulk of what is played on the night as the customer is paying the band for their experience and ability to entertain them and their friends and family. With my main band we would politely but firmly refer them to our booking agreement. We would flex within reason but if they insisted on us learning heaps and rewriting stuff we would calculate the cost and give them the option of accepting our revised price or looking elsewhere. [/quote] This. Our contract says we'll learn up to three extra tunes related to our genre (funk/soul/funky pop) for our top level package. Any more incurs a set fee per song. We'll be a bit flexible if we like the people & we figure we can use new additions for future bookings. But in the OP's case, it's a shed load of work & I'd probably suggest they booked a more suitable band.

Bandstand by Family. Cracked it out last week for the first time in years, great groove rock & solid, tasteful bass throughout.

I have never played & never will play Summer of '69 or Sex on Fire. I've also managed to get the rest of the band to agree so it's become the rule. If we get asked for either we chuck it in the disco playlist Mustang Sally on the other hand we resisted for ages then chucked it in a few months ago, avec extended guitar solo over a ramped-up 16th note rhythm & drop outs for the audience to sing 'ride Sally ride' at the end. Loadsa fun!

I don't get the OP, is your point that producers should stop making songs with treated sounds because we can't emulate them live? It is what it is & you just make the best of it. A keys guy with multiple boards goes a long way to making those noises happen live, works for us. As for Uptown Funk, I play it straight every time tone-wise & I've never had anything but a big 'whoooo!!!' from the audience when they hear it. They loves that tune they does. As for really, really treated stuff, it's a judgement call on whether it'll work or not. I don't think we'll be pulling out the title track off Funkadelic's Free Your Mind... any time soon for instance

Hand warming pads/gel things from the pound shop. They warm up when you hold em. Simple & helps a lot

Good bit of fun. Here's my list at 18:55, in NPO... Paul Jackson (Herbie Hancock) Bootsy Rodney Skeet Curtis Cordell Boogie Mosson (P Funk workhorse) Richard Searle (Corduroy) Gene Simmons (1st three albums, straight up melodic song driving) Larry Graham Marcus Miller Nate Watts Chuck Rainey ...& loads more

Was talking about this very topic with my singer on the weekend. We figured it probably goes on in every trade...musos with music, film directors with films, even brickies walking past buildings! It's a curse in a way, but it means that when we do enjoy our favourite music, we get a thrill & a joy from it that goes way beyond the blind feeling your average punter experiences. That's what I tell myself anyway

[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1436732737' post='2820363'] I really enjoyed the film and took a different message than most have said here. I reckon he's someone who is deeply damaged by the death of his Father, He has serious abandonment issues. He anticipates people leaving him by end gaming and leaving them first. He is deliberately thorny so when people have enough of him he can say 'Ha people are bastards'. It's a role he plays to protect himself from being hurt. I've seen this in a couple of people I know who have either been adopted or have lost parents very young. If he really was an abhorrent person he's be sticking pins in animals, not caring for them. [/quote] That's actually probably spot on. Roger Waters syndrome sorta thing. Still, he's a grown man & should really sort his sh*t out, particularly where his family's concerned. Talking of family...was it just me or did his current missus seem really odd around him? Something not right there :/

Really well made & watchable doc about an absolute sh*tehouse of a man.

[quote name='FuNkShUi' timestamp='1427198940' post='2726949'] I've been here a good few years, despite the meagre amount of posts. Some people get offended very easily on here. Which is crazy considering, for the most part, this site is just made up of opinions. Dont agree with them? Thats fine! I'm aware of how sarcastic i can be, so it's just easier to stay out of it. That being said, i still find this site extremely useful. I've met some good people on here, who's wisdom has proved invaluable and is much appreciated. So i'll continue watching from afar, and extracting what bits of information i can. Now.... back to the shadows [/quote] +1 on all of that!

Anyone who proclaims they're GAS free is either dumb, naive or in denial. I say this because I've been all three. Right now I really want a SR5.