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Covers band players. Nail it or close enough?
krispn replied to krispn's topic in General Discussion
I think if the songs originally had a simple bass line then that’s what you have to work with but we can embellish them to suit us as a three piece or four piece etc especially if we’re substituting some synth or keys. We play Just Can’t Get Enough and I’m playing a combination of the synth parts, using finger style, some thumb and even a touch of slap but yeah what ever works in the context of your band. This probably ties in with the show us your band live threads but feel free to post your cover version below to illustrate a point. I’ve some video but would need to host it on you tube first etc but we’re working on it. I’ve been in a band with a keys player and the arrangement was changed so had to adapt my part for that arrangement. I’ll link one below and apologies for the terrible video style! -
Covers band players. Nail it or close enough?
krispn replied to krispn's topic in General Discussion
I agree. In my country gig I had 50+ songs to learn which all sounded so similar but all had their little idiosyncrasies. It was sometimes difficult to remember which song ascended with the vocal and which descended. I mean it all sounded close enough and I dare say I’ve created my own versions of some tunes but there are some which I feel must be played as the original as an ascending run here or a descending run there punctuates a melody or a chord change and to not play it would be remiss. Maybe it’s the country scene but those fans love the songs and are well educated in the originals! -
Covers band players. Nail it or close enough?
krispn replied to krispn's topic in General Discussion
I’d never had such a full and well explained response if I’d given you all options on a plate would I?😉 -
Covers band players. Nail it or close enough?
krispn replied to krispn's topic in General Discussion
I’m doing a dep gig and listening to the band on you tube they look seem to do pretty straight covers. It makes learning the set easier! In my own band we keep it pretty close to the original versions too but we do put our own spin on some stuff especially when the songs were synth bass heavy (80’s pop stuff) and we tend to have a more folk twist due to our instrumentation. -
Following on from a response on another thread... While all the basic essentials of playing in a band are considered and taken for granted (knowing where the 1 is, timing, feel, groove etc.) for those of us in covers bands do you try and nail the part as close to the recording as possible or is it a case of close enough is good enough? Some explanations of you choices would be really good insight into your decision.
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Which band did you leave? There were three on the go right? Im on the brink of leaving a band but with another venture on the horizon and the reason for a new thread post I’m about to put up.
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Well I was considering something more affordable than a stomp. I’ll go with a mooer radar and maybe hang on to one or two of my current gigging pedals. Might be enough the I can consider the upgrade if I hear any reason to. As you were!
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Cheers I was hoping as a low cost option it might do the trick. Good enough for live and all that. It was your zoom I was looking at 😀
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@Al Krow How does your recent Zoom/BossLS2 rat patch compare to the HX version running a parallel signal path with the rat type drive? I ask as I’m considering going back to a Stomp for iem/direct to desk duties. You may have seen I’ve all my pedals currently up for sale but not ruling out a low cost zoom as a buddy is selling one and has sung its praises frequently as being good enough for live. My earlier query on the specific zoom thread was re-directed to here🙄 You’re in the unique position to have tried both A/B and I know you’ve used the zoom live. If this is the wrong thread I’m happy to be directed to a more suitable one.
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Ahh I didn’t realise it was a Zoom/Boss LS2 thread😀
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How does it stack up against the hxfx with the rat type drive and parallel signal path? I’d have thought that would get a pretty solid tone and an all in one gigging solution?
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You should link them.
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Sounds like a great gig. Was it a post 6 Nations gig? We do those every year and they’re good fun ( I’m on holiday this weekend so obviously not gigging but looking forward to the rest of the 6N especially when Scotland have home games!
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Good to know!
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I have time!
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Good enough 😀
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@mcnach Seen a mooer radar become available locally on the fb group. Still recommend it? I’m downsizing my pedal collection/board but this mooer might mean I can keep two or three pedals in operation and have a decent cab sim for foh on that particular gig and be ’more’ IEM ready for little additional outlay.
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You never got the screen sorted on EZDrunmer. It should be able to do full screen no problem. Plus the drop and drag feature really makes life easy. Which daw did you eventually settle on?
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A very very late new bass day...and first foray into fives
krispn replied to LukeFRC's topic in Bass Guitars
I’ll second what others have said. It’s a baptism of fire in many respects but you always have the four familiar strings to hand. I found by focusing on my originals bands material initially I could work them out to best incorporate the low b but I did some of those tunes in drop d so that helped as I kinda needed to go to the low D for about 4 tunes. The trick as others have said is ditch the 4 string and if you can work out a bunch of familiar songs and their patterns off the root notes on the b string. This way the patterns remain familiar it’s just the hand position/starting fret is different. I think it’ll all ‘click’ a little easier this way. It worked for me! As an aside I was limited by location for this one and was in discussion with the seller. I love that it’s battered but wanted to play it just to make sure the neck was good. First dibs though right😀 -
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I’ve alluded to this in other threads but the idea of a synth bass is far more alluring than actually employing it on a gig. We cover some tunes where a synth ‘could’ work but the reality is that adapting a bass line to work in the context the your band is often preferable to getting a dialled in ‘tone’. That’s certainly what’s worked for me in my bands, confounded when there’s been a keys player too which there has been in one of my main gigging ventures. Sometimes groove, feel and the 1 are the priority. No disrespect to established synth users. I just couldn’t make it fit in my current gigs and accepted this many moons ago🙂
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I'm shifting an EBS valve drive and I think it ups the internal voltage with some trickery - it certainly sounds proper valve-like hitting the front end of my solid state amp. It's actually a really good combination!
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A very very late new bass day...and first foray into fives
krispn replied to LukeFRC's topic in Bass Guitars
I think I saw this for sale on FB and was keen. Gimme a nudge if it doesn't work out -
I think that’s all of it 😀 I may end up keeping the Tidal Wave as it really does sound great and it’s a great always on pedal with the overdrive pushed. Does a great rock tone and dialing up the mids and treble along with using a plectrum is just one of the great tones it does. If it gets a bit bright or tippy there’s a global ‘passive’ style tone control to tame it. Cracking!