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I’ll be sure and try it

My stomp arrived and I’m looking forward to getting some Dr.Tone patches back into it for tweaking. Great resource!

Tech-nique - knowing how get what you need form your gear!

My bad it’s just the bridge in the BB102X which is ceramic

I think the Yamaha BB's have ceramic mags versus the AlNiCo in the 735 so the newer range with the AlNiCo pick ups would tend to sound more vintage. I recall a talking point from the older BB fans was that the new pick ups were more 'tame' (which could mean vintage, lower output, weaker etc.) while those who weren;t so keen on the older BB's felt that they were OTT and didn't sound like their Fenders. Go figure! Having had some recent experience of ceramic mag pick ups in a p bass they're very up front and certainly have their place but defo not vintage by any stretch!

P basses are generally considered as being more mid forward due to the pick up placement. Jazz basses are generally know for their scooped mid slap friendly/rock band friendly tone as the ‘scoop’ sit either side of crunchy mid forward guitars. Obviously a jazz can do the bridge pick up thing etc but in general terms that’s the ‘signature sound’ of each bass in its most basic terms. Any two pick up bass will have that scoop to a varying degree irrespective of pick up type dual MM, JJ, PP and combinations thereof. Nordstrand have a great demo of the Bigman pick up with three way switch and the difference in the MM style pick up from single back coil to single front coil is clearly audible and that’s in a MM pick up!!

Sweet I’ll have a look and see how it compares. Compression is one of those things which can be very player specific in terms of bass set up, playing style etc. As an example I was listening to a SR5 demo and the guys playing was so aggressive it didn’t really give the ‘average’ player a true idea of what the bass could do in a regular band type setting. Having played one it was capable of a heap of useable tones!

The three band compression is good but it does warrant a tweak, listen with/listen without it engaged, repeat type approach which is fine when we have the tone to sit with it. It can be a bit nuanced but it’s good to be able to geek out. Of course just patching in a comp you like and can quickly set to your preferences is a bonus too with the fx loop. I’ll be getting the Cali76 patched in and A/B’ing over the coming days. I might just stick with what’s on board the HXS for the sheer handiness.

You may find adding a Klon in parallel could do a Bas Soul Food type thing. Start messing with cross overs (and multi band comp) and you’re into a new set of bass friendly tones. As we’re always gonna be the poor cousin to the guitarist who these units are primarily aimed at we have to use our cunning and guile to coax out the sounds we want.

Great to be in contact with Aidan after he'd helped me out last last year with a pick guard query. Pleasure to do business with him!

Hassle free and swift swift delivery which is what we always want with new gear. Andy has been a delight to deal with! Cheers!

Mine arrived today so looking forward to having a play later.

I still have my Cali 76 so I may well patch that in and do some A/B with the presets on the HXS. Typically the C-19 virus may well put an end to gigging for the foreseeable so lots of time to refine things!

As is the Pearce pre amp he used and I think there was some modelling done on that too by L6 for him. Jeez the typo’s earlier. Apologies 🙂

Biy has been working with Line 6 so I’m sure it’ll be a hardening back to some of his vintage gear. The L6 guys would likely be more keen to model some older hard to find stuff that a pigtronix - no gear snobbery intended.

@Al Krow do you favour other cabs over the F112 for a particular reason or is it simply a weight/size issue?

I was gonna say classic case for using the right cab for the gig.

I’ll take this as a playful nudge at me as I’m a big advocate of gigging my gear. I’m certainly in the camp that encourages the use of gear on the gig/in rehearsal with the band. I’d not call it snobbery to use gear live if you have the capacity to and I think a lot of folk might feel that way. Being able to say an amps EQ frequency points aren’t as useful for live is something that the most nuanced of listening to at home may not reveal but would be quite evident with the band. A drive pedal which sounds overly mid forward in isolation could be just the ticket with the band to make the bass drive a song along. A pedal or onboard EQ delivering huge satisfying low end at home or via headphones or the classic Smiley face eq curve for example might overly dominate a live mix or cause ones tone to become lost. I’ve mentioned before that most of my playing is at home with head phones via my DAW. I’ve experimented with pick ups (different types and positions - a Thunderbird pick up in a P bass for example). I’ve installed a tone styler, numerous versions of the classic p pick up in a the same bass for the very point of hearing the nuance and differences inherent in each one. I’ve also had them in ‘normal’ and ‘reverse p’ positions and listened for the differences. I’ve geeked out with looking at the related eq frequency charts in Logic to see where the different pick ups had their unique boosts and cuts in relation to each other. I recall noting one bass would have been a better recording bass due to it more flat response across the board compared to another bass which had a noticeable bump in around 500Hz which made it a bit more pokey live. I’ve 4 sets of headphones/earbuds that I use to listen to music and my home noodling, each have different low end response, treble response, mid character let’s call it nuances if you will. I’ll use different ones for different listening scenarios. I’d agree the majority of us use our gear at home more than at gigs, I know I certainly do but I’ll not have the ‘snobbery’ card pulled out because I enjoy using my gear with my bands as much as at home. I really don’t understand how using gear with a band constitutes snobbery but your opinion is your opinion and you’re entitled to express it. I’ll not argue with that! I respect your premise that you as a player won’t hear the nuance of certain gear on the gig especially if using earplugs. I also acknowledge that punters won’t known an in time bass line or a fluffed note from a perfectly timed/executed bass part let alone if it’s a classic p bass tone or a more strident BB pick up. They just wanna sing along to a decent singer and shake their butts. You’ve mentioned that you’ve recently had a gear evolution to more readily nail classic fender p bass tones with a new cab which can reproduce more high end above 4k etc etc but I’m guessing you’ll be gigging this new rig wearing the same earplugs which you’ve already identified diminish the nuance you’re seeking to achieve in the first place. And it’s been often repeated that the punters couldn’t tell anyway. But who cares right? If one can nail that sound at home and it gives joy then that’s where the value lies in any of our gear purchases. You don’t need to run a bass into a graphic eq and note where it sits to enjoy it. Some of us do that cause we’re into those nuances and it can help when getting eq right in a gig By all means use or don’t use whichever gear you feel is appropriate to the gig/scenario/setting. Enjoy it’s subtlety when you can and trust the the audience will have a good time regardless of how close you are to the recording in terms of sounds/tones and the rest.

On the plus side for this thread @AlphaK can add me to his/her list of stomp statistics! How’s the poll looking now anyways AK? It’s been live for a few months. Any definitive answers?

Amps fail, pedals fail, irrespective of age it’s no biggie. It’s about being prepared and being able to play the gig.

The Fender 800Pro crapped out. The fan still sounds like it’s working but no sound- a trip to the amp doctor is in order. I’m actually glad it cut out as it’s given me an excuse to clear out the pedals and go full iem. You know my views on the stomp already. I think it’s a highly capable unit. I don’t think anyone ‘expects’ an amp to die on a gig and while it’s inconvenient it wasn’t a disaster and my board met the task admirably. It’s kinda why I had my board set up the way it was - to cover a failure on a gig. I’ve still got my big box CaliTX but knowing I can set up multi band compression on the stomp and a parallel signal path it may too be made redundant but patching it in is an option via the fx loop. The sheer amount of flexibility means that if I do bring my rig I can have a patch with the amp/cab sim going straight to the desk but not the amp so all options are covered. I don’t think the Stomp will arrive before my gigs on Tuesday so I’ll have a bit of time to dial it in- I think I still have a folder on my laptop and I’ve been kindly given some IR’s by a fellow BC’er which should accommodate my need perfectly. You shifting your HX soon then in favour of the VTDI for live?

I’ve just acquired a Stomp (again) and looking forward to going full IEM for the foreseeable future. I still have a good rig for when needed or a special occasion but having had an amp failure a few weeks ago and having no option but to go direct it was grand and I’m happy to embrace it.