Twigman

Having great fun configuring bodies/necks on the Warmoth website...and changed my mind about the colour.... stack everything in my cart and the end result is shocking $$$$ wise........ I wonder if I could sneak all this through on the company credit card?

[quote name='bob_pickard' post='994493' date='Oct 20 2010, 09:55 AM']secondhand values of custom builds are shocking[/quote] I'll not ever be selling it. It's for playing

As the title says I am considering assembling my own custom bass from parts. I want to use NEW parts. I need a P-Bass body and a J-Bass rose/ebony neck to get what I want. It'll use vintage hardware and be painted Foam green with a tort plate.... Can you recommend the best UK supplier to source a NEW body and neck from? Cheers

EB GroupIII flatwounds 45-100 [url="http://www.ernieball.co.uk/products/productdetail/Flatwound+Bass+Group+III+.045+-+.100/part_number=2806/574.1.4.3.5908.23613.22560.5281.0?pp=8&"]http://www.ernieball.co.uk/products/produc...281.0?pp=8&[/url] They're easy on my fingers and seem to last a long time and keep their twang.

[quote name='Conan' post='974008' date='Oct 1 2010, 02:03 PM']Man! This thread's on FIRE!!![/quote] light the blue touch paper stand back let it burn

large norks tend to go floppy and droop at a younger age than smaller perter firmer breasts.....anything bigger than a handful is likely to get veiny and hang round the waist by the time she hits 30 or drops sprogs....so I tend to avoid 'em.

[quote name='chrisba' post='974138' date='Oct 1 2010, 03:06 PM']Lets celebrate the diversity of this happy crowd rather than trying to criticise or question peoples choices.[/quote] happy? Who is happy? I'm with paul h

Whatever It's Friday I obviously touched a nerve. There must be something in that. LOL

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='974016' date='Oct 1 2010, 02:09 PM']The answer is pretty apparent, even in this thread: Because it pays.[/quote] So who plays bass for the money? I know I don't. I do get paid but that's not my motivation.

[quote name='Conan' post='973963' date='Oct 1 2010, 01:42 PM']the band have been going since 1981 - and you appear to have only joined last year (according to the website).[/quote] I joined in 1984, left in 1990 (the band packed it in in 1991ish), rejoined in 2008 when the band reformed between 1991 and 2008 a handful of gigs were played - between this band and another on the same label there were a pool of musicians from which to pick - I was in the other band from 1989 to 1993 - bizarrely they have reformed without me now in 2010

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='973995' date='Oct 1 2010, 01:56 PM']I think it is much more akin to doing the cooking from this point of view, as in, the context of being a musician/bass player.[/quote] Absolutely Why would anyone want to flip McD burgers when they could be creating unique culinary experiences?

playing covers doesn't make you a lesser bass player at all. you are all probably much better than me I just think covers bands may have their place at weddings or the like but it's not why i started playing bass........I certainly believe that covers bands take work away from originals bands and believe that that is bad for music ergo covers bands are bad for music. I disapprove.

[quote name='lemmywinks' post='973922' date='Oct 1 2010, 01:24 PM']Erm, nope.....[/quote] Erm...yep.... Many venues ,say 20 years ago, would happily put on an originals band but these days insist on covers only.....if these covers bands didn't exist and the venue wanted live music they'd still be putting on originals.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='973902' date='Oct 1 2010, 01:14 PM']To be fair, this one is a slightly different angle. it's more like: 'I TRAVEL THE WORLD AND GET LOADS OF MONEY FOR PLAYING ORIGINAL MATERIAL. THE REST OF YOU ARE LOSERS.' [/quote] LOL Oh errr do I come across as that sort of w***er? Oh dear....no my point is.......too many people give up too soon in original bands....I know too that if it stopped tomorrow nothing would make me want to take my bass and play covers in pubs, nothing!.....I just don't get it. But also I think it's much harder for new originals bands now because too many bands play covers and too many venues think they want covers........covers bands are killing music!! Sorry

[quote name='EdwardHimself' post='973892' date='Oct 1 2010, 01:09 PM']Christ, not this again. Every week it's "WHY BE IN A COVERS BAND!? WHY BE IN A COVERS BAND!?" Why don't you just f*** off?[/quote] I'm sorry I've never raised the subject before and I don't think I've seen a thread about it before.....

It'll be the intonation on the guitar.....fretboards very rarely are precise enough to maintain spot on tuning at all frets and my guess is his 2nd & 3rd fret are slightly out.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='973860' date='Oct 1 2010, 12:57 PM']Of course it goes without saying that you're in a minority - most orignals bands (or covers bands, even) don't get to experience this. But you know that, don't you.[/quote] Most originals bands give up before they get the opportunity to experience this - I'd agree. .....but what if they hadn't given up?

[quote name='chrisba' post='973851' date='Oct 1 2010, 12:52 PM']I would rather play covers to 200 drunken students than original music to 20 introvert musicians. Loads more fun.[/quote] Not as much fun as playing originals to 1000 diehard fans though, believe me!!

[quote name='Norris' post='973830' date='Oct 1 2010, 12:37 PM']It depends what you're after. If you're serious about having a career in music, you would probably want to go for an originals or a tribute band. If, like me, you work for a living and just play music for fun & beer money, a covers band is a lot easy to get regular *local* work. I don't really want to be travelling all over the country several nights a week. I did a lot more playing in my youth, but it just hurts too much getting up for the day job now-a-days, when you've not got in until 2, 3 or 4 am. There are a lot of very serious and committed bass players on this forum. I'm one of the more casual ones [/quote] We don't play gigs week in week out and we don't play often enough to make a living from it. Generally we do it for fun though - it's hardly a career as such, although to some, given our discography, it may seem like one. Yes, we put the work in early on, gigging to empty halls with disinterested audiences but that's all part of it.... And we have the luxury of most of our gigs being fly aways to the Med for a Fri/Sat show, so we get a weekend away with the lads with someone else footing the bill and come back with more cash than we left with - could you do that with a covers band?

[quote name='mike f' post='970615' date='Sep 28 2010, 01:14 PM']I should imagine that a good few of you film your own band when ever you gig - perhaps more as a record of events than a rockumenatary, if you will.[/quote] We leave the fans to do that and post it on youtube.... quality varies from sh*t mobile phone footage to reasonable HD video camera work....but every gig seems to go up on youtube (we don't play many) and we have no need to film ourselves.

[quote name='Dave Vader' post='973814' date='Oct 1 2010, 12:28 PM']You get paid, and people come and see you.[/quote] Same here. So what's your point?

So many of you play in covers bands, in fact it seems to me that all of you do!!! What is the appeal of playing in a covers band? I've never understood it. I've always played in a band that writes and performs its own material - very very very rarely have we ever thrown a cover into our set and I always felt it was a pointless exercise. Does anyone here, apart from me, play in a band that writes its own material?

I play with Sad Lovers & Giants. Sad Lovers & Giants are a rock band from Watford, England who formed in 1981. Their sound blends post-punk, atmospheric keyboards and psychedelia and the band has been described as "a pastoral Pink Floyd." The band's members have included Garçe (Simon) Allard (vocals), Tristan Garel-Funk (guitar), Tony McGuinness (now part of the trance trio Above & Beyond) (guitar), Cliff Silver (bass), Ian Gibson (bass), David Wood (keyboards and saxophone), Juliet Sainsbury (keyboards), Marco Müllner (keyboards), Nigel Pollard (drums & percussion) and Wilberforce Hicks (keyboards). The original lineup produced two studio albums, Epic Garden Music and Feeding the Flame, before splitting in 1983. During this initial period they recorded a John Peel Session for the BBC and a live concert for the Dutch Radio Hilversum station, which was subsequently released as the album Total Sound. Live performances included headline dates at UK colleges and clubs with occasional trips to Europe, although they did support The Sound at a major London venue on the day Epic Garden Music entered the UK independent charts. European interest in the band began to grow, and with the release of second album Feeding the Flame, they toured Germany and Holland, gaining a dedicated fanbase. Artistically, Feeding the Flame is considered to be their finest work and hints at a potential that could have elevated them to the status of contemporaries such as The Chameleons, Cocteau Twins and Modern English. Tensions within the band caused a complete disintegration, however, with Garel-Funk and Pollard leaving to form The Snake Corps (inwhich I played keyboards). Not much was heard for a while; their label Midnight Music released a "mopping up" album entitled In the Breeze, which included one of their previously unreleased signature tune, "Three Lines". They returned in 1986 with an updated lineup (Tony McGuiness on guitar, Juliet Sainsbury on keyboards and Ian Gibson on bass), and new album entitled The Mirror Test. Although stylistically similar to the original lineup, the dark edginess of songs like "In Flux" had, to a certain extent, been replaced by more melodic songwriting. On the other hand, the new lineup had a live energy previously lacking, and as they continued to play the best of the old songs, their act developed to produce some truly memorable performances. As interest abroad grew, the band performed extensively in Holland, Spain and France, headlined at the old Marquee club in London's Soho, and with the release of their fourth album, Headland, were a featured band in Melody Maker. They released a further album Treehouse Poetry before Midnight Music went bust and the band split once again, coming together occasionally for gigs supporting And Also The Trees at the Marquee Club and London's Electric Ballroom. E-mail from Eternity, a 'best of' compilation, was released by the record label Cherry Red in 1996 after the company picked up the Midnight catalogue. In 2002, the band released a brand new album called Melting in the Fullness of Time. They played two dates in Italy a year later. SL&G (Allard, McGuiness, Pollard, Gibson, Müllner) played several gigs in Italy in April 2009, coinciding with Cherry Red's re-release of Feeding The Flame and Epic Garden Music. Hicks (also in Detachments) replaced Müllner later in 2009. They closed 2009 with a gig in their hometown of Watford. In 2010 Cherry Red re-issued The Mirror Test. In 2010 Sad Lovers and Giants have played a couple of gigs in Athens and a Midnight Music reunion festival in Barcelona. They are releasing 7" vinyl in October followed by a full CD & download album in spring 2011. Albums 1982 Epic Garden Music CHIME 00.01 (Midnight Music) 1983 Feeding the flame CHIME 00.03 (Midnight Music) 1984 In the Breeze CHIME 00.07 (Midnight Music) 1986 Total Sound CHIME 00.22 (Midnight Music) 1987 The Mirror Test CHIME 00.30 (Midnight Music) 1988 Les Années Vertes CHIME 00.40 (anthology - Midnight Music) 1990 Headland CHIME 01.10 (Midnight Music) 1991 Treehouse Poetry CHIME 01.20 (Midnight Music) 1996 E-mail from Eternity (The Best of Sad Lovers & Giants) CDMGRAM 104 (Anagram Records, distributed by Cherry Red) 2000 La Dolce Vita (Sad Lovers & Giants Live in Lausanne) VKR001CD (Voight-Kampff Records) 2001 Headland and Treehouse Poetry VKR002CD (Voight-Kampff Records) 2002 Melting in the Fullness of Time VKR003CD (Voight-Kampff Records) [edit] 12" Singles Man of Straw (DONG 5) "Man of Straw", "Cow Boys (version)", "Close to the Sea" Seven Kinds of Sin (DONG 31) "Seven Kinds of Sin", "The Outsider", "Ours to Kill" White Russians (DONG 34) "White Russians", "A Map of My World", "Life Under Glass" Cow Boys (DONG 36) Sleep / A Reflected Dream (DONG 40) with The Essence Clocks Go Backwards (DONG 59) [edit] 7" Singles Clé LM 003 (Last Movement) "Imagination", "When I See You", "Landslide" Colourless Dream LM 005 (Last Movement) "Colourless Dream", "Things We Never Did" Initial copies were pressed with the labels backwards. Lost in a Moment DING 1 (Midnight Music) "Lost in a Moment", "The Tightrope Touch" Man of Straw DING 5 (Midnight Music) "Man of Straw", "Cow Boys" Facebook page: [url="http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/Sad-Lovers-Giants/104860292879894"]http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pa...104860292879894[/url] Video from Barcelona's gig on Saturday 18th Sept: [url="http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1409075703892"]http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1409075703892[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ShZUMEVjE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ShZUMEVjE[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOfs4hLwZwU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOfs4hLwZwU[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX1bwa-LU9c"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX1bwa-LU9c[/url] Last.FM page: [url="http://www.last.fm/music/Sad+Lovers+and+Giants"]http://www.last.fm/music/Sad+Lovers+and+Giants[/url] Should be enough for you guys!!!

Me at our gig last Saturday 18th Sept in Barcelona

I don't suppose my 83 Squier JV62 Precision counts....it's the only bass I've owned for the last 27years and gets played all the time. It's almost a Fender....and almost Vintage