Vibrating G String

[quote name='mart' post='1139786' date='Feb 24 2011, 03:50 AM']I thought that string-spacing was usually designed so the centre-to-centre distance between the strings was constant. This, of course, means the [i]gap[/i] between the D and the G string will be larger than the gap between the A and the D, which, in turn, will be larger than the gap between E and A. Without a ruler to measure the centre-to-centre spacing I don't think I'd be able to tell whether a nut was cut correctly or not - our eyes are not good at gauging that kind of thing.[/quote] When I measure the picture on the screen they come out even Assuming a light gauge set of 40-100 the gap should only change 20/1000's of an inch if center to center is perfect. We could take it to the next level and find out how the fingers perform at different degrees of extension and find we want different spacings for the different strings based on how curled our fingers are. Sounds like I need to patent the 2 way compensated nut before Big Poppa does

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1139696' date='Feb 24 2011, 02:38 AM']Thats weird. I wouldnt have noticed that until you pointed it out, but I can see what you mean. Is that 'normal' or wrong?[/quote] Normal, and for most people it just doesn't matter. Look at how long they got away with using randomly cut pieces of threaded rod as bridge saddles. The only way to get those to space correctly is dumb luck. Unless you don't notice small imperfections like almost every Fender owner. [attachment=73207:Fender_quality.jpg]

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='1138229' date='Feb 23 2011, 01:57 AM']I was in a well-known vintage dealership in Denmark Street a year ago looking at a 1971 Mustang. The G-string was way too close to the edge of the fretboard, which I pointed out to the owner. He took the bass from me, said "Yes, Fender QC was a well-known issue at the time" and jerked the neck sideways quite hard ... then handed it back to me with the strings now properly aligned. [/quote] The old neck yank is a part of being a Fender owner. The problem is that it slips out of place again. That's why I would clean the mating surfaces in the pocket so you get more contact area and therefore more friction and less neck shifting. The 3 bolt necks with the built in shim screw can be nightmares of neck shift.

[quote name='mart' post='1138204' date='Feb 23 2011, 01:35 AM']Well here's one culprit: a 2008 Rockbass. I don't think the bridge, pickups or neck were in exactly the right place, but the most noticeable is the misalignment between the bridge and the pickups. I've been told that the RBs now have much better QC. [/quote] WOW! It's mind boggling that it can be off that much. I'd guess they don't drill the bridge holes at the same time they route the pickup cavities.

It's hard to say for sure but I usually find neck shift to the right so the G string falls off. Haven't really seen it the other way in a Fender style bass. I fixed a couple of bad neck shifters by cleaning out the drippy finish from the sides of the neck pocket and more importantly getting a good clean flat bottom of the neck pocket. Usually the bottom of the neck pocket is ignored while folks look at how big the side gap is which doesn't really matter. There's only one contact surface where the neck is pressed against the body and it often has paint in it in some lumpy way allowing the joint to rock on just the tops of the paint ripples. Once the neck is attached correctly I find most bridges are in the right place.

[quote name='lettsguitars' post='1137736' date='Feb 22 2011, 01:13 PM']perhaps we can find a common factor[/quote] Fender, though not exclusively. Though I don't think it's the bridge placed wrong as much as the neck shifting. Cutting a neck pocket loose enough that you can get any neck in the pile to fit no matter how thick the finish and then gloping on the finish is what I think causes it.

I have 2, both Gibson models. USA built. Many people like to call the first Gibson models pre Gibson due to prejudice against Gibson but most of the Tobias' made under Mike Tobias were made in the Gibson owned factory in Burbank California.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1134467' date='Feb 20 2011, 08:24 AM']What's the thoughts on these? [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=123570"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=123570[/url][/quote] Drool! Those have been on my list for a while.

I'm wondering if having 2 good looking girls is a plus for a wedding band? How many brides want that competition? Brides maids dresses are ugly for a reason. I would highlight them for any other gig Just wondering.

It's clean with no splash page, already you're in the top 10% Good pictures on the first page. Easy to find music though I could only get the 3rd song to play. I also agree with the no prices on the website. It scares away the people who wanted to pay less and it also scares away the people who wanted to pay more. The last part may seem non intuitive but when someone wants to spend 5k on a band they don't want one cheaper. Most people still equate price with quality and you don't want to be dismissed for being lower quality/price than what they are searching for. In bargaining for a price always try to get the client to tell you their budget first. It's amazing how many times they will tell you a figure well above what you'd ever ask for.

If you like that album Robben Ford's Inside Story is worth checking out as it's the same bunch of guys.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1132892' date='Feb 18 2011, 03:09 PM']Bloody tempted to up the budget and get this, it's 10 mins from me. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270705421922#ht_1018wt_1139"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...#ht_1018wt_1139[/url][/quote] I would never buy a KSD, read some of the old threads on talkbass before you do. They tend to be junk and Ken Smith refuses to take any responsibility even though he sold them and his name is on it. They are cheap Asian imports with a big markup.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1133911' date='Feb 19 2011, 04:11 PM']I think Sterling Ball will be after Bongo copyright infringements on it Rich [/quote] I feel so derivative

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='1133857' date='Feb 19 2011, 02:39 PM'][attachment=72725:IMAG0019.jpg] It's the one hanging on the wall looking for all the world like it doesn't neckdive.... and yes it is what you think it is. I called this project The Pee Bass. [/quote] Are you worried that EBMM might sue for copying their design?

[quote name='Linus27' post='1132494' date='Feb 18 2011, 09:42 AM']I still like the idea of a 51 Precision for the retro look.[/quote] Sounds like enough of a reason to me Tone can always be tweaked.

I've routed out a number of basses under the pickguard. Can't hear a difference myself. Drops about a pound at most IME.

I believe the necks were made by Moses and are all 35 inches even the 4 string. I've never played one but have been stalking them for a while and they get very good reviews. there are some 2 pickup models and 6-700 dollars is a common range

That will vary depending on how the nut is cut but with the traditional Jazz nut width being 1.5 inches and the traditional P bass nuts being 1.625 and 1.75 the 1.625 nut will be spaced just over 1.058mm wider than the jazz and the 1.75 will be 2.116mm wider from string to string.

I would think you could get all you want by using the knobs on the amp and moving where you pluck the strings. Much more so than buying a solution. If you pluck the string 12 frets up from where you fret it you accentuate the lower harmonics and get a kind of acoustic sound. Playing softer can also remove a lot of the clank.

[quote name='JTUK' post='1131097' date='Feb 17 2011, 06:46 AM']What other bands chose to do is up to them..but being much of a muchness can mean you are popular----ish from day one, but then people go off you as they hear the set so often.[/quote] Doing the common cover thing also puts a cap on how well you can do. You can only go so far if you can be easily replaced by any of a number of other bands doing the same thing. Like you say it's very easy with covers to get to a quick level of success, but then you're topped out pretty quick too.

[quote name='4000' post='1130955' date='Feb 17 2011, 05:11 AM']The thing is, how many popular songs are there out there? How many that could potentially go down a storm? Hundreds of thousands? So why do many cover bands have a set list 99% the same as each other? I personally suspect this perception is perpetuated by cover bands themselves, not punters.[/quote] I think you're right. It's so easy to say no we don't do kings of leon and just move on. At least in my world it is. Weddings are a bit different but just playing for drinkers it should be easy enough. I do think many cover bands I see play it too safe and are unwilling to take chances and develop the skill to entertain people without playing sure things.

[quote name='Jambo10' post='1130342' date='Feb 16 2011, 02:16 PM']When you hear many bands do the same songs over and over, you get a bit fed up with them all.[/quote] Some blame the homogenization of bad cover bands on the loss of live music and the rise of the DJ. Out here in San Francisco so many bookers don't see why they should hire a band to do a fraction of what a DJ can do for less money and only one ego. Gotta run to do a gig, covers we'll play tonight are Person to Person by AWB, I Wish by Stevie Wonder & Last Child by Aerosmith. The rest are originals.

[quote name='Count Bassy' post='1129993' date='Feb 16 2011, 10:10 AM']Bad songs do not get played regularly for 30 or 40 years![/quote] Oh yes they do A band member once said to me playing in a cover band because you love music is like working in a slaughterhouse because you love animals. I've always felt that nailed it. Personally I could never play Mustang Sally without a paycheck much larger than you could get for a real job. To the original question, yes you can play covers and not play the same thing all the other bands do. But you must be good enough to succeed on more than simple recognition of tunes as you'll lose that gimmick. I have seen great cover bands work their versions of the tired cliches. Bourbon Street in New Orleans always has great cover bands but all the covers are reworked extensively.

1979 was the first Steinberger

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='1127974' date='Feb 15 2011, 12:59 AM']Nickel? Afterall, it's what the frets (most anyway) are made from?[/quote] Mostly copper and zinc, which make brass. Nickel is usually less than either copper or zinc in the mix.