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[quote name='retroman' post='591350' date='Sep 6 2009, 12:56 PM']OOPS! Hope I haven't started something there [i][b]To me, I would be interested if you tried the bass through an Ashdown. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against their gear, it's just not my cuppa.[/b][/i] Sounded too compressed, and lacked any balls to my ears. I have an all valve Ampeg SVT Classic, which I dare say there are a few out there thinking "oh, one of those horrible vintage sounding things", but it's the sound I like If someone posted, for example "I tried bass "X" through an SVT, and the tone was huge" that would tempt me to try out the same bass......(and then get a GAS attack ) I too agree about the lazy shop comment......I recently ordered a Tbird brand new, and when I collected it, it had a neck like Robin Hood's bow, and the intonation wasn't that clever either. All sorted now though I have tried several new basses, and the set up on them has been shocking, as if they have just been taken out the box, and hung on the wall. Not very clever if you are trying to sell the thing...... [/quote] Do you mean 'would [i]not[/i] be interested'?

[quote name='lee4' post='590983' date='Sep 5 2009, 08:45 PM']+1 here(but without the chalfonts)[/quote] I may have exaggerated for effect!

[quote name='warwickhunt' post='591259' date='Sep 6 2009, 11:02 AM']28 years ago I needed 100w (Marshall Superlead) to be heard in a band 23 years ago I needed 150w (Laney PB150) 17 years ago 250w (H&K BassBase 250 combo) 13 years ago 500w (the above x2) 7 years ago 850w (H&K BassBase 600 @ 2ohms) 2 years ago 1000w (Tech Soundsystems Black Cat OR a pair MB amps) Presently... 500w (Thunderfunk) and to be quite honest I'd bet I could manage with a lot less given what I know about amps, cabs, cab positioning and PA[/quote] And does the 500w now weigh less than the 100w did then?

[quote name='Josh' post='590973' date='Sep 5 2009, 08:28 PM']Being obsessed with seemingly only Flea and frighteningly singled minded, somehow that makes you better than a good percentage of bassists who play 5 strings as part of their successful career? Honestly, going from your About Me section on your profile I thought you'd be at least a bit open minded enough to appreciate why 5 string players play 5's in the first place. You either leave this kind of attitude behind now or let it hinder your learning and playing on the whole.[/quote] Besides which a careful use of the search function would have revealed [s]god[/s] Jamerson knows how many threads about this rubbish already and the OP could just have added his tuppence there.

[quote name='peted' post='590893' date='Sep 5 2009, 06:51 PM']There's an obscene amount of amps on that list[/quote] But nowhere near enough basses.

[quote name='geoffbyrne' post='590922' date='Sep 5 2009, 07:24 PM']Oh definitely, and if he'd had a 4 the outcome would have been no different. But when a guy pulls out a (slightly) exotic instrument you have certain expectations, don't you? G.[/quote] Very true. I think my Mrs said the same thing.

[quote name='Kev' post='590894' date='Sep 5 2009, 06:51 PM']Right..but this is this thread I am saying a might dislike a shop bass because i have been forced to play it through an Ashdown, very much relevant to this thread, not the other.[/quote] OK, I didn't realise it was a problem. My lightheartedness often offends. I'll delete it.

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='590661' date='Sep 5 2009, 02:20 PM']All joking aside, Wayne, but had you considered getting a 5-string bass (or retrieving Wesley maybe) and turning it into a 3-string. Put the E where the B should be, the A can be left alone, and the D goes up to the G position. Then you'd have a bass where you could pick SO hard on all three strings, and be able to do at least simple arpegio-type riffs in I / IV / V songs. Just saying ...[/quote] Or Wayne could get a six string and .. well, I'll let you figure it out.

[quote name='geoffbyrne' post='590627' date='Sep 5 2009, 01:49 PM']I was at an open mike night last week & a bloke arrived witha a Yamaha bass case. Came his turn to go up & jam the bass for a couple of people - pulls out a Yammy 6 string - neck like an ironing board. 'Blimey - this is going to be good!!!' thought I! Well. I don't want to do the bloke down, but he really was a disappointment. The two artists did a 12 bar variant & [u][b]BassPlayer was totally lost[/b][/u]. Same in next number which was a proper 12 bar.[/quote] That can happen with four strings too.

[quote name='OldGit' post='590632' date='Sep 5 2009, 01:54 PM']Now come on. A drummer who can count past 4? You're fibbin' [/quote] Well, even I couldn't count the number of toms he had, he was a proper drummer after all.

[quote name='johnzgerman' post='590598' date='Sep 5 2009, 01:13 PM']the presidents only had 2.[/quote] Only two to share between them?

[quote name='Stingray5' post='590596' date='Sep 5 2009, 01:10 PM']...in which case, can I be tri-stringual? [/quote] What? You've only got three strings?

[quote name='charic' post='590589' date='Sep 5 2009, 01:03 PM']I really have to admit even with my 4 string I use the entire neck with songs I write.[/quote] Hmmm... I tend to have a a rather dusty area that begins around the seventh fret. And next to the first five frets I have written the word 'money'.

[quote name='largo' post='589996' date='Sep 4 2009, 06:33 PM']What about "If you dinnae ask, you dinnae get" ... I learned that pretty early in my teenage years [/quote] What about the one that's in the For Sale forum now?

[quote name='EdwardHimself' post='590538' date='Sep 5 2009, 12:09 PM']To be honest i hear a lot about this idea that playing a bass with more than 4 strings somehow makes you less of a player[/quote] It's usually the other way around in my experience - 'five strings makes you more of a player'. It's b******s either way. At a gig, drummer introduces me to his old bass-playing friend. We chat a little and friend leaves. Drummer says 'He's a proper bass player, five string and everything'. Yawn.

[quote name='XxBassMastaXx' post='590531' date='Sep 5 2009, 11:59 AM']welcome fellow 4 string fans![/quote] Thanks for the welcome ... but why?

[quote name='fatgoogle' post='590197' date='Sep 4 2009, 10:20 PM']So for my leaving cert i have to play 8 pieces, 4 on trumpet and 4 on bass or 6 on one instrument but ive been told your bound to get more marks straight away by playing 2 instruments. So i pretty much know what im playing on trumpet. But as Ive mostly spent the last 3 years of my time playing bass rockin' out, Im not sure what to play for all 4 pieces i have two ideas so far. But first, all the pieces have to different to get most marks, and i can be backed up by anything really, but my main ones and preferred are piano and drums, i would like a guitar and could... get one, but it takes so long to get any of my friends to learn anything that its more hassle then its really worth so.... The first two pieces that i have thought of are The awakened by The Reddings Suite no 1 in G major by bach. Ive got plenty of time to learn all pieces and have started both of the above. But are these any good, [u][b]do you think they'll get me the marks [/b][/u]and what do you think would be two other pieces of varying genres, or 4 pieces altogether. Im fairly clueless at what else to pick a jazz piece, rock,metal eh. Also they have to be too quite a high standard, but the main marks are the performance really. Any help? Thanks Sam H[/quote] I don't really have any advice for you except that when you ask 'do you think they'll get me the marks[?]' you should be asking your teacher(s) that question. They know what the examiners are looking for.

A freakish event: End of the first song, first set. Guitarist says to me 'You are extremely loud'. I say 'Shall I turn down?'. Guitarist says 'No, it sounds great'.

It can be risky testing an expensive bass through an expensive amp because you end up buying the bass and the amp.

[quote name='chris_b' post='590431' date='Sep 5 2009, 10:06 AM']I never plug a bass in when I'm trying one in a shop. If I still like the feel of it after 10 mins I'll ask for an amp then. I probably have less than a 10% "plug in" rate. I wish more players didn't make such a racket in shops!![/quote] I'd say that's a very good approach. If it's no good to you unplugged it's probably no good at all.

This is what the Gary Willis intonation guide says: [quote]It's important to realize that to play in tune on a fretless you have to adjust your finger placement depending on which part of the neck you'r playing. It's common for people to set fretless intonation so that a note is in tune when the line is directly in the middle of the finger. If this is done for the 12th fret, it forces you to play very sharp (past the line) in the lower registers.[/quote] There are pics as well on [url="http://garywillis.com/pages/bass/bassmanual/intonation4.html"]this page[/url]. Can anyone give any further info on this?

[quote name='RichB' post='590361' date='Sep 5 2009, 06:02 AM']I used to have a Hohner B2A (Steinberger copy), over 10 years ago, that the previous person had defretted. Having read this thread I realise that I was playing it completely wrong. No wonder I sounded dreadful. [/quote] How were you playing it?

[quote name='RichB' post='590362' date='Sep 5 2009, 06:11 AM']Still off on the tangent. I swear the guy out of the Doves has a right handed bass set up for right hand, and he is left handed.[/quote] I see that is true also.

[quote name='witterth' post='590329' date='Sep 5 2009, 01:36 AM'] Well that was Dave from Brighton who walks away with £500,000......and were going to a break just now!! when we come back, fastest fingers(?) who has them?.....ads...[/quote] Looks like I can afford that terrible £100,000 bass in the porn forum. Oh well...