EssentialTension

Here's a Jazz bass:

I must be playing with the wrong guitarists because the four I've regularly played with in recent times are all using combos with two or four 10"s. Anyway, shouldn't this be in General Discussion and not Off Topic?

[quote name='TRBboy' timestamp='1327168457' post='1507398'] Not in a position to post a vid right now, but Deja vu has to be the best Beyonce bassline! When you see her live you realise that every single member of the band is an extremely talented musician. [/quote] Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weFftGrtZ7w

Absolutely cracking.

I'd expect reasonable pics and a variety of them.

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1327153386' post='1507071'] Position of the pickups also quite important. [/quote] OK, I didn't make that explicit but yes. Although even Fender Jazzes don't all have two single coils in exactly the same positions. However, if I had the offset body, the 1.5" nut, and VVT, even if I had moved the pickup positions I'd still say it was in the family 'Jazz bass'.

Jazz basses are not all the same and haven't been for fifty years. 'Jazz bass' is a set of basses with certain family resemblances. The key resemblances are: 1 - The offset body shape 2 - A pair of single coil pickups 3 - 1.5" nut 4 - VVT (or maybe VTVT) controls For a bass to be a member of the Jazz bass family it needs at least one, and probably two, or possibly three, of those key characteristics but it doesn't need all of them.

[quote name='jonnybass' timestamp='1327135141' post='1506740'] My knowledge of maths and physics isnt the best but I always assumed scale length relates to the distance between two frets (notes, harmonic nodes,whatever you want to call the place where you put your fingers on the string) I would be surprised if the distance between fret at F# on the e string and G on the e string on a 34inch scale bass is the same as the nut to F fret distance on a 32inch scale bass, if its even different by a hundredth of an inch, it will lead to interesting tuning.... jonny [/quote] This has already been dealt with earlier in the thread. Turning the second fret into the nut would make it a 30.3" scale. In scale length terms it's just the same as putting a capo on the second fret of a 34" tuned to DGCA making the scale length 30.3" (more strictly it's 30.290551181") and the old fourteenth fret becomes the new octave 12th fret etc. The problems are not to do with scale length as long as the new nut is at the old second fret. It is problematic for other reasons.

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1327010682' post='1505317'] Doesn't it state the cobalt is also in phone mobile batteries?! Seems we are all guilty. [/quote] In computers too I believe.

Like everyone else, I'm sure the Squier Jazz was definitely a much better buy. I'm not a big fan of sunburst either but you've got a classic bass design in a classic colour and it will make classic tones for you while keeping quite a lot of its value if and when you want to sell it on. Good luck.

[quote name='Spoombung' timestamp='1326700865' post='1500525'] Ugh, pure cheese. I don't get the James Taylor thing. Americans love that brand of mush. Makes for a very dull song, IMO [/quote] I like this cheese, very tasty.

I would have to say something and offer to pay for any repair.

[quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1326670794' post='1500407'] Which ones are your favourites Dave? Mine are GHS Precisions, also partial to DR High Beams and TIs for fretless, but if I could only have one it would be GHS. Still a lot I haven't tried, but I've stopped looking now (thankfully) Steve. [/quote] Hi Steve. Different on different basses. Precision bass has La Bella 760FS but I've used TIs there often too, Lakland Decade has Pyramid Golds at the moment but I also like GHS Precisions on that too, Takamine B10 has La Bella 760N, Michael Kelly acoustic has TIs. But that collection are my favoured ones.

[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1326660250' post='1500192'] +1, thanks redstriper. Actually it doesn't quite say it all... for instance, finding which flats suit you can get expensive. However quite a few BC-ers (myself) included have played that game, so nearly-new sets often pop up in the BC marketplace. [/quote] You're correct, I was exaggerating, and I should know because I've tried most types of flats at great expense.

[quote name='redstriper' timestamp='1326653853' post='1500028'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE5R3rUoU58[/media] [/quote] That video says it all really.

[quote name='Will Law' timestamp='1326650947' post='1499969'] ... I'm after a '60s sound' to be quite broad so I'm thinking flatwounds would probably be better ... [/quote] The great majority of 1960s recordings are flatwounds - and usually on a P or a J, and sometimes with fingers but quite often with a pick.

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1326650615' post='1499958'] ... On a P well that's all they had when the Precision was designed ... [/quote] ... and when the Jazz was designed.

I'm guessing by 'standard' strings that you mean roundwounds. Although probably the majority of bassists use roundwounds, the flatwound variety are the originals. Flatwounds tend to produce a more old school kind of thump, although that is quite a big generalisation as there are big differences between different makes of flatwound. There several threads about flatwounds already, try reading some of those: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/163241-first-set-of-flats/page__p__1478281__hl__flatwounds__fromsearch__1#entry1478281"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/163241-first-set-of-flats/page__p__1478281__hl__flatwounds__fromsearch__1#entry1478281[/url] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/161522-flatwound-strings/page__hl__flatwounds"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/161522-flatwound-strings/page__hl__flatwounds[/url] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/155718-labella-flats-tell-me-about-them/page__st__40__p__1419149__hl__flatwounds__fromsearch__1#entry1419149"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/155718-labella-flats-tell-me-about-them/page__st__40__p__1419149__hl__flatwounds__fromsearch__1#entry1419149[/url] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/156452-flatwounds/page__p__1387894__hl__flatwounds__fromsearch__1#entry1387894"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/156452-flatwounds/page__p__1387894__hl__flatwounds__fromsearch__1#entry1387894[/url]

Gone now. Listing ended, no longer available. It was described as two-tone sunburst but looks like faded red to me - and no neck date. The seller is Tune-o-matic, we've come across him before.

I'd always expect to adjust the tone for the room I was in. Maybe not much, but I always start from controls set flat anyway.

[quote name='christhammer666' timestamp='1326312074' post='1495398'] ... 4ths 5ths ect leaves my bamboozled ... [/quote] If 4ths and 5ths bamboozle you then that is because you haven't had them properly and simply explained.

[quote name='Ed_S' timestamp='1326350056' post='1495738'] I respectfully disagree. I think music speaks to everybody on a personal level, and to try and dictate what it'll mean to another individual by metrics alone is to greatly lessen it. To put it another way, if you've ever seen a film called Dead Poets Society, theory is to music what the writing of Dr. J. Evans Pritchard, Ph.D. is to poetry [/quote] But the teacher and the students in Dead Poets' Society had all studied language and grammar for many years before the events of the film. They could not only speak but could also read and write and analyse, explicitly or implicitly, what was written or spoken by others.

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1326306458' post='1495274'] Oh surely not? Where's the point in having the guy on "Ignore" if he can't even post stuff for me to be ignoring? [/quote] Maybe he was only banned from off topic.

[quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1326293753' post='1495036'] I think there's something missing from this discussion - where is VibratingGString? He must be on holiday still... [/quote] I thought he got banned?

[quote name='morsefull' timestamp='1326197919' post='1493555'] ... My point is this; do we suffer from the "snake oil" effect when playing expensive strings? ... [/quote] No, I buy the flatwound strings that I want because I like the feel and the sound of them and then I keep them on the bass for years so they are actually dead cheap. For example, I've had a set of TI Jazz Flats on one bass since 2005 and no plans to change them - so they've cost me about £5 per year so far.