Downunderwonder

I have it on high authority that human hearing is insensitive to shifts of phase across the audible spectrum. Exhibit A, a phase response chart for any bass speaker you like. It's all over the place and all you hear is bass.

If I ever get one of those for backline I am going to be looking for the fx return to plug my pedals into and get cracking.

You seem to be saying someone already hacked the amp portion of the second combo before you got it? Then you shifted the badge to get a pukka looking matched stack. Good job!

I expect your ABM gets it done by virtue of a shed load of power to do whatever whereas the CTM benefits from the extra attack from the pick stuffing any excess into healthy MOAR.

Those things must be saving a lot of gigs from death by guitard.

that's a fingerboard.

Lots of older Vintage Trace Elliot use heatsinks in lieu of fans.

You could liven up the early local one by bringing along a cajon box drum. When I was getting back into it all after time off music I went to an open mic that had a couple of guitars and a conga. Nobody much played the conga aside from the host but when I showed up with bass the percussion players showed up in numbers with their own gear and we had a whale of a time.

Depending on the preamp, some will give you a whole universe of tonal outcome options from your merely decent amp. If you're talking about pedals you're generally getting foot switching as well. Then there's the other reason, dirty old GAS.

There is/was a 2nd hand BF 10 available for £250. That is lower than usually offered but you get the drift of why we are pumping the used end of the market. I can't get through to the specs on the warrick page it just blacks out. Maybe it detects I am in NZ. Anyways, looking at what you get for the brand new money they can't be near the value of used. BF lack of weight for loudness ratio is unbeatable except by carbon fibre which puts you in another price bracket altogether. Elf 110 cabs also pop up used pretty regularly and a bit cheaper than BF. Other option is find a community "Men's Shed" as we call them here. Basically a local depot where retired geezers go to hang out and make themselves useful fixing stuff and helping with projects, like building a bass cabinet. There's a joker in the classifieds selling a spare OEM SWR driver for a SWR Goliath JRII, 35 quid. A quarter of a sheet of plywood later you got a handy little one hand carry for next to nothing.

It's one of the few rewards for becoming an older git, getting to play with a better class of gitarist.

G'day Roger, to answer your question, all things being equal ( which they seldom are but we have to start somewhere ) a 112 will be quite a bit lighter than a 210. That out of the way, I never heard of Gnome cabs and I have been kicking around BassChat for a fair while. Perhaps you have one of those newfangled internet hyperlinks for us? Context is very important. Extrapolating lines and doing maths I come up with you are a 78 year old geezer playing in some kind of community jam. Likely where ukuleles and guitars and the odd sax etc are unamplified? If my hunch is correct there's a BF 110 for 250 quid that would do that job. The Barefaced cab you got pointed to will carry you on to anywhere you want to go with your amp. You would be hard pressed to find a lighter 112. Hard to put a price on that.

I expect tuning them up a couple of steps overnight would pretty well do for any zing. Could equally make them dead as doornails so no warranty expressed or implied.

That's a pretty neat trick all said and done!

It does if the guitarist has an increment of team player like the guy in my little story a few posts back. High passing his acoustic was no issue at all. Of course that makes him not a guitard but neither are the ones in OP's band from the sound of it.

I took it the 800+ in the thread title indicated D800+, aware that it has the switching for 2 ohm operation, and it's the only one with 800+ in the name.

It's a mono amp afaik.

Either you're having a senior moment also or I have no idea what's going on. Surely it's 2 ohm mode switch time with 2 times 4 ohm cabs = 2 ohm worth of cabs?!?

To sumarise, "it's obvious unless it isn't, not my fault of you blow your stuff up".

Fender do a lovely satin finish on some models. Right up your street.

It's not always obvious when a cab is being stretched. In a metal environment it's even harder to hear when a cab is distorting, or simply fading from too much heat. If it was easy nobody would blow a driver. A good rule of thumb is if you need to turn up and it hardly seems to get any louder the best thing to do is take a break and turn it down from there just a bit instead.

Tempting to not fix what isn't broken? Most of us would be very happy not to have to bring a cabinet with us like our Siamese twin. Of course one day you turn up and the monitors are 1 10'' wedge each side so it pays to have a cab in the van. What's the drummer doing? I have heard that in Europe e-drums all the way to IEM silent stage metal is a real thing. Maybe in your neck of the woods turning up with no monitor amps is the new normal?

A Ubass is a space saving and very affordable backup that is no slouch for the tone either.

The bassiest guitar in the whole world is an acoustic. I was in a duo on DB with an acoustic guitarist. One day we're setting up and it just won't mesh no matter how I tweak the EQ. Guitar boy had been doing a solo lunch gig with the low cut turned off. Sorted in seconds. DB sounds like a DB and guitar sounds like a guitar. Btw. Saturating your pickups comes under too much gain as well as attack of strings. Something you are doing is making it growl one way or the other. On the other hand, all that isn't pure synth sine waves is the bass guitar stings, pickup, amp and cab doing their things and you could say it's all growl. So perhaps you need to be more specific. From what you're saying it sounds like it's not overly loud so most likely growling from the bass and you're amping that. I think you would have found a sweeter gain master balance already. I can get flat wound strings to growl but it's a lot more work. If taking some bass out of the guitars doesn't work and lowering your pickups doesn't work that's maybe all that's left.

That's a very dangerous choice of wording at the best of times, and then the OP is Romanian. Absolutely there are decent cabs that won't take everything a LM800 can put out. Then there's That's a more than decent cab! I think there's a used one in the classifieds for 900 pounds. Reading between lines OP has 800€ budget, in Romania. Regarding 4 ohm equivalent of an 8 ohm 210 cab. That is only properly useful for when your amp is low powered and you don't need to get very loud. There's way more chance of blowing one of those to kingdom come with a powerful amp. Two of the 8 ohm versions used might be well in budget?