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Bass player who plays every song in same key?
risingson replied to lowlandtrees's topic in Bass Guitars
[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1361300422' post='1984217'] I know a couple of keyboard players that do that as well. Nothing's new! Irving Berlin could only play in F#. Didn't stop him becoming rich, famous and successful. In 1910 he bought a "transposing piano" for $100. To one side of the keyboard was a small wheel, and turning the wheel shifted the keyboard right or left relative to the strings, positioning the hammers over higher or lower notes than they would ordinarily strike. [/quote] Aye all true but the guy could write an absolute belter of a tune!! -
Would this be a good thing? A Led Zep Reunion
risingson replied to xilddx's topic in General Discussion
Anyone who is under the assumption that they might be lacking in cash couldn't be more wrong. If they value JPJ's wealth at £50m then Page and Plant will take things to a whole new level on the monetary scale. No problems with a reunion. Why does everyone get their knickers in a twist about this? They're welcome to tour and earn more money, they're living icons of British music and we should be proud of them as a British band. The stage at which I'll take issue is when their tour manager elects to charge everyone £200 a ticket. -
[quote name='hubrad' timestamp='1361206965' post='1982779'] I was thinking ME-6B; on a quick search I found plenty of references to the 6B and 8B. Probably depends just which time slot you look at. [/quote] Twas both! First the former then the latter. edit - by the way, it will have been a lot of outboard compressors in the studio he will have used, fairly certain most of his bass parts were straight to the desk so any good compressor will get you that really squashed sound, as opposed to just buying the boss unit.
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It's nice to hear what a band might do differently during a live performance of a very studio-orientated version of a song but if I've got covers to learn then it's usually from the studio version.
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[quote name='OliverBlackman' timestamp='1361102390' post='1980988'] This has happened in pop music, especially R&B. Musicians are either rapidly being replaced by DJ's or playing synth keyboards and triggers. [/quote] Bass players made similar claims in the 80's too about synth replacing them, yet here we all are!
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Favourite Bassline YOU have written and recorded
risingson replied to xilddx's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='GarethFlatlands' timestamp='1361026501' post='1979987'] risingson - Cool cross between old school songwriting and electronic elements. I really liked the crossover between the regular and bass synth, and I especially dug the middle section from about 2 minutes until the vocals kicked back in, everything just worked really well together there. The vocals are way too high in the mix for me but that's all I can think of I didn't like. [/quote] Thank you very much Gareth. I completely agree on the vocals by the way. -
[quote name='Merton' timestamp='1361020116' post='1979848'] Yes it was Did you notice his cheeky fills in Twist and Shout? We have suitably taken the piss on facebook [/quote] Yeh I spotted the fill and the comments! What a player, hoping to catch up with him next time I'm in the capital.
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It was a pleasure watching a friend of mine Phil Mulford playing bass for most of it. The other bands that weren't the house band were hit and miss musically but it was a nice idea.
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How do you know if a bassist is 'good' or not?
risingson replied to xilddx's topic in General Discussion
My favourite bass players are the ones who demonstrate a great musicianship. I like good tones but I much prefer identifying with their note choices, rhythmic inflections, the feeling of space and time in which they operate. I can tell that they're good by the way they work for their music and drive it forward. -
Favourite Bassline YOU have written and recorded
risingson replied to xilddx's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1360970032' post='1979379'] You got a bit of a crooner on the vocal there Good song this. And you're dead right, the bass is is perfect for it. Massive kudos for the restraint and tone selection [/quote] Thanks he's got a great voice for West End, which is quite literally what he's currently involved in but man the pipes on him defy sense, I've not heard anything or anyone like him. I prefer a throatier dirtier vocal for stuff like this but I can't detract from the lad. Good idea for a thread too. -
Favourite Bassline YOU have written and recorded
risingson replied to xilddx's topic in General Discussion
I'm only as proud of the bass line that I've put down on a track as I am of the track itself. I've played far more 'complicated' bass parts on records we have made, but the three notes that I played on this tune are all I ever felt that it required for it to be a song that I'm very proud of. The rest of the bass is synth bass (which I also played ) -
[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1360930942' post='1978452'] What a f***ing racket. [/quote] Haha! Yes indeed. "Alright mate, it's the guys from Warwick, we'd like you to demo a bass for us if you're available. Do you know anything slapped and unwholesome in the key of E?"
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[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1360934902' post='1978570'] So no one willing to jump in and claim that the Beatles output compositionally surpassed all the Motown output then? Interesting.... [/quote] That's a different topic altogether I think. The Beatles are not the only best to have ever existed, it's a sea of influence out there!
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My last contribution then: I suspect that the Beatles made up one of the most important songwriting team in musical history, and will be remembered and written for hundreds of years just like J.S Bach and Beethoven for musical works of great importance. Those who have gone out of their way to misconstrue - or maybe even genuinely misunderstand - their importance in this thread will constitute a minority of people whose dressed up opinion as fact will fortunately not prevail. Quite an eye opener of a thread.
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How was your transition from 4 string to 5??
risingson replied to TheGreek's topic in General Discussion
Hi Greek, I was a 4 string player for years and years before I finally got a 5'er. I think people can downplay the extent to which switching can affect their technique and style but it's just about the amount of time you're willing to practice and accept that low B string as part of your playing. It gets mentioned all the time in topics like this but I actually never play my 5 string like a 5 string, I always play it like a 4 string with an extra string if you see what I mean, i.e. being able to have the facility to drop a full 4th below your usual note doesn't mean you should do it all the time. For me, buying a 5 meant I was able to connect certain passages that I felt would benefit a lower note somewhere in it, it also makes position playing a little easier and finally it opens up the possibilities of what I'm able to with my bass guitar. A 6 string would be too much for me as I don't need those higher notes but the 5 extra low notes are perfect for what I like to do. -
It was me who suggested it was out of character for you, it's fine and great you apologised. Been really frustrating the past few weeks on the board. A lot of wind up merchants and massive displays of ignorance which I'm not at all used to seeing on here older and newer members alike, does make me think twice about using the forum nowadays but then to be honest it's all a bit silly anyway as we're all free to dip in and out of posting as we please. It's only the Internet isn't it, nothing to change your life or 'out.
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[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1360681872' post='1974527'] This is one of my favourites. This could almost be a Chemical Brothers song. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spjcPS4ekOA[/media] [/quote] It was They acknowledge it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkkMz2awmbI
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[quote name='bremen' timestamp='1360681380' post='1974512'] I'm contemplating starting a thread 'Jamerson: If He Were Alive Today He'd Be Getting Lessons From Flea'. Just to distract from the Beatles thread (and ths one). [/quote] That Les Claypool certainly could have shown him a thing or two mind.
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Great stuff. The other tune that gets me with its level of complexity is this one, such a lot to cram into a song under 2 minutes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE2Vdcv9Q_o
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Having just contributed to a thread concerning the overall subjectivity involved in music it seems unfortunately ironic that you're attempting to cause more commotion on the board with this given subject.
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[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1360677924' post='1974417'] In the very depths of my divorce, which was especially nasty on her part I once cried when I heard "Carry That Weight". Does that count? [/quote] That counts. My personal favourite is Here There and Everywhere.
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[quote name='Perennial' timestamp='1360677640' post='1974408'] I actually don't like the Beatles that much but boy are they good and influential. [/quote] Oh come on now, everyone has a favourite Beatles tune! Even my dad does, he claims to hate them.
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Give it a rest now. 21 posts in and you're in at the deep end, post something constructive. Do you have a favourite Beatles tune maybe? Here's another belter [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN9n1bAahg4[/media]
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It's certainly on of the forum's more depressing 17 page reads. So in the spirit of keeping things civil, here's a song for us to enjoy by the most influential and overrated band of all time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Q9D4dcYng
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Queen, another one bites the dust... E or F minor?
risingson replied to iconic's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='tonybassplayer' timestamp='1360675288' post='1974319'] And who would have thought that such a simple bass line would make one man so much money. I am led to believe John Deacon has earned a fortune from it with it being used on things like Gladiators etc ( sat night tv not the Russell Crowe epic obviously ) [/quote] That, and 'You're My Best Friend' and 'I Want to Break Free' amongst others. The guy is very deserving of his fortune, a key songwriter in the band at the time.
