TimR

[quote name='Stacker' timestamp='1344193644' post='1761074'] Yeh, isn't it? Physics, to be pricise. [/quote] No it isn't. You're completely wrong.

Low ceilings and beams will give you all sorts of problems. Sometimes you're better off just using the top 15 unplug the bottom one and use it as a stand and for show. What are your guitarists using? If they've got 4x12"s you're going to struggle.

I've voted sub £750. For 10 years I gigged with a second hand Trace GP7-300 15" combo that I picked up for £300 quid. It got too heavy and I moved to Warwick separates a 211Pro which I got new on a deal £400 and ProFet 5.1 which was £300. I've recently added another 211Pro second hand £250 for bigger gigs. I guess my cable was £20.

[quote name='essexbasscat' timestamp='1342194847' post='1731414'] ... I thought I'd ask the same question about rigs, y'know all the stuff you use for the backline. ... [/quote] You know if we all read each others posts properly there would be a lot less arguments.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1344175477' post='1760691'] If you want to know how I value my gigging rig at shy of £10k to replace, consider 2x Sei J5's Thunkferfunk 550-A amp racked with a tuner 2 DB210 Or I might take out 2 Berg NEO's instead but if it is either, or.... So if anything was stolen I'd commission 2 new Sei J5's and go to Thunderfunk for a 750 as they don't make 550's anymore. I'd stick with Aguilar cabs. My gig bag must have £3-400 of stuff in it.... If you include a pedal/DI box, mic, cables. So, if pond life emptied my car.....?????? [/quote] Come on! 2x Custom built Sei J5s? That's not backline unless I'm missing something. There is no way anyone gigs with £10k worth of backline!

If the pub is very small you may even have phase cancellation from the wall facing you or ceiling or low beams. Try angling the cabs diagonally inwards next time.

I would try the speakers separately in the same configuration. ie Warwick on top with Ashdown unplugged then again with Warwick unplugged. See if you get any difference in volume. I added a 2x10" Warwick to a 15" trace and got some weird cancelling effects. Mixing manufacturers can have weird effects. How close to the back wall were the cabs? If they're more than 1or 2 meters you can have cancellation problems where the sound bouncing off the back wall interferes with the direct sound from the cab. The cabs were stacked vertically I presume?

You don't necessarily have to be have playing very loudly. If the 200W cab was hitting it's limits of excursion it's distortion could have been masked by the sound from the other cab. I think it's more likely that you just busted the driver by driving it to it's mechanical limits, rather than overpowered/heated it.

[quote name='bluejay' timestamp='1344018837' post='1758878'] I think many of us were young when Kate Bush was young as well, so we've sort of grown old together, hence the attraction for our male contingent...? I find that much more dignified than perving after women young enough to be their daughters. [/quote] She's 10 years older than me! She shouldn't have dressed like that, corrupting 9 year old boys! Disgraceful behaviour.

[quote name='JimBobTTD' timestamp='1343992850' post='1758297'] Does "never been gigged" mean "doesn't stink of smoke from the pub"? And when the smoking ban was introduced, the saying continued? [/quote] That's my take on it. Although having said that I recently bought a cab that had never been gigged but kept in a bedroom with a dog or cat. Took a bit of hoovering to get rid of the hair. Is giging somehow different to transporting to a rehearsal studio on a weekly bassis? Never been gigged just means mint. My bass has picked up all sorts of little scratches and dings on gigs, quite a few more than if it had sat in my bedroom every Friday and Saturday night.

I've got The Whole Story on vynl. Probably one of the last records I ever bought. Should really download it but wonder if it has been 'digitally remastered' to sound louder. The beauty of her songs is the air and dynamics they contain. Anyone else have it on CD/MP3 and have any view?

Any well written song can be played on rhythm guitar alone. I would argue that none of the other instruments are 'needed'. In one of my bands we've played gigs without our rhythm guitarist none of the audience were any the wiser. in most cases we struggle to play some songs because the rhythm guitarist gets in the way. This is more due to his lack of listening skills than anything else. In the other band the rhythm guitarist is bang on the money. But I'd still question whether he was absolutely necessary for a gig.

[quote name='SpaceChick' timestamp='1343860789' post='1756637'] ... As for the poster who asked about band ages.... I'm the youngest at 38, the lead singer is in his late 40's, the ditched guitarist was early 50's, our lead guitarist is 60 and our drummer is 62 so a group of youngsters we aren't. Our drummer has been gigging for over 40 years, so I reckon he's seen his fair share of arses in that time!! [/quote] It was a rhetorical question. People of all ages get it wrong and sometimes need their heads banging together. The drummer knows this.

[quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1343899200' post='1756898'] Detection is one thing, Herr Skank; it's then a matter of having the correct weaponry to deal with this silent menace. [/quote] I am saving up for a shed.

It's mostly angry young men trying to express their feelings through music because no one will listen when they speak. Them no one listens when they play their music either. Shame really - all that emotion and energy going to waste. I know a few divorced women in their 40s who would at least pretend to listen.

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1343823795' post='1755756'] You are talking about the format, not the objective. [/quote] In which case any band that has released a single in the weeks leading up to Xmas is exacxtly like the x-factor.

Well no comments then. I tried to understand what the link was and why you posted it. I didn't know what an AMA was. Car crash? edit: Ask Me Anything..... or not!

[quote name='ChrisB' timestamp='1343822434' post='1755725'] It's not on telly at 7pm on a Friday either but the principle behind it is exactly the same... [/quote] X-factor works by giving you a different angle each week on the contestants abilities and keeping it fresh. I can't see where it says that each band will record a new track each week and the judges will give feedback on the song so the artist can go away and record a better track the next week.

It's not anything like x-factor. There's no mentors. The song has been recorded, it's in the public domain in July but still expected to make no. 1 at Xmas. No one gets voted off. No one produces a new piece of music each week.

I saw this last night and struggled to see how it was new, different and hadn't been done before. In the end I said nothing. There's far too much content on that site to wade through. What happened to MySpace?

[quote name='SpaceChick' timestamp='1343813900' post='1755495'] I do agree with you, however, I have only been in the band 4 weeks, so its not my call to make. [/quote] ....which is why having a stand up row in front of people you hardly know isn't the best idea.

[quote name='SpaceChick' timestamp='1343808896' post='1755416'] Heard from the Lead Guitarist, he's not happy one bit. I've been told to "watch this space", however, he is not prepared to walk on eggshells, and he will be told if he steps out of line again. Both the Drummer and the Lead Guitarist have now told me that they are not prepared for me to be undermined and intimidated and that they will not allow me to be a casualty. I am the more important band member So, I am going to be gracious next week, until he puts a foot out of line, and then I am going to become a rotweiller!! [/quote] Steady on. You've only been in the band 4 weeks yourself. Personally if I were the other guys I'd just ditch the pair of you. You're only more important because it's difficult to find bass players. I don't know how old you guys are but it all seems pretty immature. The new guitarist doesn't fit in - for whatever reason. He needs to go. Calmly and quickly before he gets too comfortable and you end up learning stuff thay needs relearning next month with someone else.

You're feeling threatened, and who wouldn't be. Even if he doesn't have a hidden agenda, you will now be looking for one. I suspect the damage has been done. Drummer needs to call him and tell him it's not going to work. If this was two blokes, we'd have a massive punch up and go down the pub afterwards and laugh about it.

That's done pretty well Mr bee. Too often you see the uniform look taken to extremes. I like the way you're all wearing the same but still retain some individuality.

[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1343661105' post='1753275'] C'mon, lets get real here !! No artist worth his/her salt is going to let this happen. If they did, there would be no audience, let alone a disappointed one. Even in the most grotty gig venues, the stage is never in darkness, at least not in my experience. What I assumed we were talking about here, was artists dressing up to the nines and putting on a glitzy show. There is a difference between this, and an artist performing his music and interacting with his audience, either through the music itself, or through a bit of banter etc. [/quote] The original post was looking at how boring bass players often are. I've worked very hard with my current band to get the guitarist/singer to drop his music and engage with the audience. On most tunes He stands rooted to the spot behind his mic staring down at his music. Musically we're tight and people listen but always get a much better reception to the tunes he plays without his music even though he makes more mistakes. That tells me people want to be entertained. The original video is satirical. Purposefully poking fun and exaggerating the boring bass player into a wild character to make a (very good IMO) point. You don't always need loads of flashing lights and jumping about but what you do need to do is engage your audience. Just a couple of coloured spot lights, a bit of thought on what you are wearing, learn to play without the music, smile and move about a bit is often all it takes.