TimR

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1480877414' post='3187766'] As a classical musician I've never liked typical audiences for classical music, but reading this I may have to reconsider. At least they were never drunk, and they wouldn't wreck the instruments or the stage. [/quote] Have you never played at last night of the proms?

[quote name='mike257' timestamp='1480816324' post='3187338'] Of course, we've yet to solve the trickiest question on this subject... Exactly what does one do with oneself during verses of Alright Now? [/quote] Cowbell. You can never have too much cowbell.

You got paid for doing a [b]Christams party[/b] for [b]care workers[/b]. I bet you even mic'ed up the bass drum. And you wouldn't even let them have a go on your instruments. You're a bloody mercenary Pete. That's what you are. That's for sure. .

We play a venue where the entrance is a corridor onto the side of the 'stage' area. My amp is right next to this coridoor. The last two gigs I've had people put their drinks on top of my stack and lean against it. The first time the stack started to move and topple over. I stopped playing several times to get him to move away only for him to come back again. The second time I noticed all the resonance had gone from the cab and turned around to see what had gone wrong only to find someone leaning on the top. What's wrong with people? If it's not yours don't touch it. Blame it on drink. .

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1480582795' post='3185530'] Some very good ideas there BUT don't try some of them unless you've gone wireless. Tying your legs together with your own lead and falling face first into the drum kit is not a good look. I feel I should also point out that crashing your headstock into the mic stand (twice) is not good stagecraft. [/quote] It's ok as long as you don't do a comple 360. Also note when he talks about barriers between you and the audience. (Music stands anyone...) .

I watched this a few weeks ago. It's pretty good and common sense for stage craft. I've implemented quite a bit of it. No dancing required, just some basic ideas. http://youtu.be/eizWNzpcFvU

I'd read the thread again Chris. It happens with all cables. They're not getting pulled out, they're sliding out on their own accord "due to the amp vibrating". The Planet Waves one is worse. If the tip contact has lost its spring it won't latch down behind the tip and the jack will not be held into the socket. It happens with all plugs in that socket but doesn't happen with those plugs in other sockets. Therefore the problem is that socket. It's not difficult to diagnose. .

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1480416530' post='3184136'] It's not new, the 750's were superseded by the 800's a few years ago and "back" is somewhere near Chicago. [/quote] Ok. Sounds like the Jack has probably worn over the years then. Just replace it.

[quote name='vinorange' timestamp='1480410981' post='3184066'] Well the collar of the socket does sit proud of the nut and does seem to stop the jack seating home properly - but the PW jack does seem slightly shorter than some of my others. The proud collar would exacerbate that. I was considering a gentle trim of the socket collar to allow the jack to go in slightly deeper. It may be all I need to do to avoid any change of cable / socket.............I wonder if I should try that first with my dremel or a hack saw. [/quote] I wasn't suggesting trimming it, just making sure that it was all assembled correctly. But you still haven't answered whether it's a new or a second hand amp. If it's new SEND IT BACK!

Another thing I've thought of; is the collar or nut on the socket done up properly? If it's proud this could stop the plugs being pushed all the way in so the spring clip doesn't actually go over the tip and lock the plug in. Worth checking? .

So it was spitting the Jack out before you used planet waves cable? Is the amp second hand? If not, send it back, that should not be happening.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1480329777' post='3183325'] Well, I'd reply that those are quite extremes of the spectrum, just the same. My snares are a Camco 14x5.5 maple, a Tama 14x6.5 Maple and a Tame 14x6.5 steel. To me, they're very different; to most, in a band context, I doubt if they could be distinguished, as I'd be adjusting the playing to suit the song. A different 'ring', different dynamiques, different 'voices', but just a snare in the mix, especially if mic'ed. Still, I take the general point. Maybe I should start taking my collection of cymbals, too..? My Paistes are well different from my Sabians, or Meinls. Who'd know what I had mounted at any one time..? What does your drummer use..? Could you tell from listening alone..? Are they just for display..? After all, many great drummers got by with a pair of hats and a crash-ride. What are the others for..? Spare..?Showing off..? Maybe. [/quote] My son has just taken up drums. The difference between cymbals is marked and you get what you pay for. He has his eye on £800 worth of hand made Turkish hi-hat, crash and ride cymbals. They do sound awesome...

The worst gig I went to, but wasn't performing, was when I went to see my brother play. About an hours drive, arrived to find the pub had shut down and was boarded up. Days before mobile phones. Apparantly the band had turned up two hours earlier to find the place boarded up and a steady stream of fans had turned up throughout the evening and one by one turned round and went back home. Due to the general flakiness of band organisation, no one thought to put a note on the door to say everyone had gone to xxxx for a pint and meet there. All round confusion and a wasted Saturday night.

It's the instrument cable not the speaker cable. The planet waves plug has bent the internal spring contact. It then works its way loose because the contact isn't doing the job of holding it in. Smaller plugs last longer but are still vibrating loose. The only solution is take the amp apart and change the socket It always looks like a big job but all the internal wiring loom will be on plugs. .

[quote name='vinorange' timestamp='1480290029' post='3183190'] I'll give that a go but having just tested different cables my older ones stay in the socket a little better than the planet wave cables. It's the vibration that spits the cable out so I'm not sure tying through the cab handle would do it. Gaffa tape may do it. Just a pity you can't get something that goes behind the socket nut and loops over your jack - that would do the job. [/quote] The problem is, once you've bent the tag inside te socket using the Panetwave plug, all of the others will be a slack fit. Replacing the socket is a quick simple job for someone who knows what they're doing with a soldering iron.

Planet Wave cables are notorious for having jacks slightly larger than standard. Change the cable.

[quote name='darkandrew' timestamp='1480285435' post='3183144'] If it's a convention that the strings go sequentially low to high, then why don't ukuleles follow the same rules? [/quote] According to Wikipedia they do. The only exception is the bass ukulele that uses re-entrant tuning with the bottom string tuned up an octave to avoid the problems you get with a low G while still maintaining the ability to play close harmony chords. .

I suspect that has a lot more to do with the length of the fretboard.

[quote name='paul_c2' timestamp='1480283581' post='3183123'] They're not opposite, I think you're just getting confused as to what "left" and "right" is, because they are not well defined because when you look at an instrument from different angles, it could be interpreted differently. If you are turning your head to look at the bass during playing it, its an odd position/posture you've found youself in if you can see the E string on the left!!! [/quote] No it's not. If I look at the fingerboard at the nut the E is on the left the G is on the right.

Yes. They're a bit tricky in that respect but you get used to it. The other thing with a violin is you don't play 'one finger one fret', I know they don't have frets but you don't finger chromatically like you do on a bass or a guitar. Some fingers are placed close to each other some with gaps for the notes not being played in the scale. Does that make sense?

[quote name='paul_c2' timestamp='1480277285' post='3183053'] I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Its clumsy to try to define the strings as going left-right on violin/viola/guitar/bass guitar, and if you take the position of the cello/double bass strings as the player sees them, then its rightmost string=lowest string. [/quote] You can't have the strings opposite on a cello and bass to how they are on a violin and viola. It would be impossible to move from one instrument to the other. Sometime around 1600, everything was standardised. Cellos and basses are just bigger versions of violas and violins. If you can play one you can play the other. They could equally have standardised the other way round. But they didn't. When I turn my head to look at the headstock and fretboard on my bass; the E string is on the left and the G is on the right. .

[quote name='paul_c2' timestamp='1480275695' post='3183039'] Except its not true. 1) the horizontal position of the guitar, bass guitar, violin and viola means that there is no "left" and "right" strings. 2) the string instruments played upright (cello and double bass) have their lowest string on the right, as the player sees it, which is the opposite direction to a piano as the player sees it. [/quote] Stick a violin or viola under your chin. Which way are the strings? Turn the violin round so it's a guitar or double bass, the strings have to be in the same position or your fingering all goes to pot.

[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1480273193' post='3183018'] No, lefties just play like this: [/quote] And as it's Panto season...

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1480272218' post='3183007'] Except the left handed piano. [/quote] They're only for apprentice piano tuners.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1480268338' post='3182952'] Sure, but the 1st thing I'd do is see what gtrs they are running as to how they themselves approach it. You know you have trouble looming when you see them both rocking twim humbuckers, for example. But as always, it is more how they approach things and it is more an issue when they both have to play 'everything'... I like gtrs who know that they can drop out of the track... [/quote] Yes they tried to convince me that the two guitars sounded different. Which to be fair, they did, but everything just morphed into one hash of noise. Yes. They both played everything. In fact in some tunes one of them played everything and more. On some occasions he 'helped me' by adding extra root notes. .