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[quote name='blue' timestamp='1478547624' post='3169828'] The local heavy hitters have an established stable of bass players they use. I guess the question is how you get in the stable. Keep in mind this is a clique of musicians that are native Milwaukeans that have worked together for years. Blue [/quote] You're completely missing what I wrote. Where do you get your drummer/guitarist/singer deps from. Get the details of the guys you want to play with and get them to fill in your band when someone can't make a gig. Although, from previous posts about the way you treat your band, you probably have no say whatsoever about this.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1478543220' post='3169777'] I've played shows with one of our heavy hitters, it hasn't been of much benefit yet. I wasn't really comfortable asking him to stick around to hear me perform. I know where your coming from because that's the way things happened for guys in the old days. Not sure that's the way it works anymore. Blue [/quote] But have you spoken to the other heavy hitter band members and got their details and asked them to cover players from your band when they can't do gigs?

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1478524012' post='3169587'] It doesn't work that way over here, your nor going to get a local heavy hitter to attend your gig if your not in their click. Blue [/quote] Hmmm. The way it works here is you pay a dep to play in your band. Once you've had a few different pros play with you they start asking you to cover when they need someone. Are you saying that 'heavy hitters' only play for big names? There must be a middle step between what you're doing now and backing Phil Collins on tour?

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1478052563' post='3166425'] I don't know much about the depping world. However what seems to be the case in my part of the world,its another closed clicky scene. Blue [/quote] Unfortunately. This means getting out socially to the places where these people are and being nice to them. Invite them to your gigs so they see and hear how good you are. When they come, make sure you buy them drinks and keep them entertained, not just with the music. Go to their gigs and complement them on what they're doing. Clicky scenes are not that hard to get into if you know how to socialise and make it work. Even BassChat is fairly clicky at a certain level. You have to give and take a bit and get a few decent posts in before people start listening and respecting your comments. .

Graeme, PM Trevor and ask for details on this. I'd really recommend it as a way forward. [quote name='TrevorR' timestamp='1463435983' post='3051400'] Hey there Graeme, Long time! Didn't realise that you were hanging around here! We chatted SB700s many moons ago... On a slight tangent, have you ever thought of transferring the content of the site over to one of the free blogging platforms like Blogger or Wordpress. That's what I did with my Wal history blog when we changed ISP a few years ago and I lost the free 20MB of webspace. They are dead easy to learn and very intuitive and, best of all, free! If you just copied all the website pages back onto your hard drive via your FTP programme you could load them up bit by bit. That's how I rebuilt the Wal site. Anyway, just a thought... [/quote]

Whichever you chose make sure you have telephone support to the UK. I'm managing a website hosted on a 1and1 sweet. Contacting them is a complete headache/impossible. I can't find any numbers that aren't sales or any email addresses of their support team. Might be just me though...

[quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1478180047' post='3167322'] If it's an originals band, why would you bother with a cover? It's simply going to put your song up against something that people know, and so the perception is they prefer the song they know to your song. Pointless. I struggle with this in an originals band I play for, they have plenty of great songs, but still insist on putting in one or two cover in as 'crowd pleasers', what a waste of a song in a set that could be used to turn people onto your music instead. If you're a covers band looking for work, fine, I get it. If you're an originals band, I simply don't understand it. Si [/quote] It increases the audience. Unfortunately (watch XFactor) a large proportion of people are not open to new music and have to listen to a tune several times before it grows on them. On the radio new tunes are introduced alongside well known ones. If you play only unknown originals you limit your audience to a very narrow set of listeners.

[quote name='Pinball' timestamp='1478156007' post='3167117'] Thanks for the feedback My opinion as a writer of origonals is that I would l;ike to hear people playing my stuff. It's a tribute or recognition of your work by fellow musicians. On the other hand if someone was making a lot of money on the back of it I would feel entitled to some of it. No moral worries here and it sounds like no legasl worries either as our activity will be below the radar [/quote] It will depend on the copyright holder. If you try to YouTube Beatles numbers they're pretty sparse.

I created a video and used music from a CD. YouTube flagged it up, knew what the music was and verified that as it was already available on YouTube that it was OK for me to use. I'm guessing that the actual licence is with YouTube not the person who uploaded/made the video or the account holder. As long as you are not selling the actual video or song I would think you'd be ok.

Domain transfer. http://www.wix.com/domain/connect-domain

I can't see any Wix info unless I log on. Usually the host (Wix) will have an option for you to use your own website address. First you'll build your site using one of their free domains and then 'map' your own address onto that site. It's quite simple there should be a help page somewhere. Nominet handle all the domain names and the host (Wix) will update them for you.

[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1477990806' post='3165695'] Sometimes some folk have got quite upset when I've sellected parts only from a quote, even with the "...". [/quote] Sone folk are just looking for stuff to get upset about though.

[quote name='Rocker' timestamp='1478005076' post='3165884'] I noticed that too. But the cynic, that is me, wonders why the guy expends so much energy into just proving that something does not perform as the manufacturer claims. If buyers believe it works, then it works for them. If not, it doesn't. I believe that the so called 'retail therapy' can make us feel a lot better about ourselves. The new suit theory... What is wrong about feeling better about ourselves? There are enough problems without someone adding to the list and calling us liars if we believe something works, even if it can be 'proved' that it does not. [/quote] That's a different thing though. One of the posters here is a PHD researching the Placebo Effect. He was on Horizon? a couple of years back. It's certainly real and researchers have to go a long way to eliminate it from their experiments.

It's the musicians curse. Once you learn an instrument you will be forever listening to what it is doing during a piece of music. The best producers and musicians are those that can rise above this point and go back to listening to music in the same way as a non musician does. It's no surprise to me that there are a lot of very good ex-bass player producers. I don't think you'd get this discussion on another forum. Bass players need to be able to understand melody, counter melody, harmony and bass to be good players. You don't get that by only listening to the bass.

Don't forget to add ellipsis if [quote name='thebrig' timestamp='1477947020' post='3165500'] ... you quote just sections of a post ... [/quote] Otherwise you could unintentionally misrepresent the OP.

Haven't got a clue. The set list has all the first notes written on it so I get that one right, after that I just wing them.

I guess looking at it from the other point of view. I've played in a few situations where I've had to borrow gear or use house gear. Basses, amps, leads and cabs. Assuming all the gear is good quality, a rubbish lead can be a nightmare, I've never managed to get a decent sound out of any 4x10" cab. So maybe for me it's a cab, not a deal breaker, but I'd rather avoid using them.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1477666047' post='3163746'] I am often amazed at the drummers people will put up with. I'll see this in dep gigs as I wouldn't come across them otherwise, tbh. I have come to the conclusion that I am very susceptible to time..so in turn, my time is very good, IMO, but I can't drag someone too far..and neither should I have to. A recent experience had a drummer that used to come in on sections of a song at a completely different tempo to the tempo he start the song at..so in effect they could have been different songs. Funnily enough his time during THAT sequence was way more solid which made the different tempo's most baffling... He even knew he did it as well...!!!!!!!!! THAT was very hard work and I didn't stick around. As for time, I don't have to watch a drummer, if he is on our gigs, time is just not an issue so the 1 will be on the 1. I don't know why that is even a discussion. [/quote] The reason it's up for discussion is that it can and does happen. The OP is questioning the right way to resolve it because he feels that whichever way you solve it, it 'feels' wrong. I'd suggest this is because the mistake has already happened and after that everything is 'wrong'. In this case two wrongs do actually make a right. Someone has to do something that is wrong musically to pull it all back into line.

[quote name='gapiro' timestamp='1477646230' post='3163507'] We do similar, but its a case of "if you're booked off, the band leader sorts a dep, if you are unavailable after the booking, you get a dep" The problem now is that with the management team going from 3 to 1 (because apparently I don't contribute enough, and the git is too busy with work atm) the person leading the band wants us to just invite the band calendar to the events on our personal calendar. Which is just rude and not very respecting fo my privacy. I dont want them to know if i'm booked in some nice hotel somewhere with the mrs, i just want them to know i'm busy. Yes I could create two events on my own calendar, but thats just makes my calendar look a mess. [/quote] I'm sure with the google calendar you can make certain events private and it just shows as busy to everyone else. Useful if you just fancy a night off. https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/34580?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en .

[quote name='bassace' timestamp='1477648296' post='3163523'] In pre-Internet times I played in a big band. The man had to make a minimum of 54 phone calls per gig. 18x3. [/quote] We had a chain. The Man called 6 people. They each called 6 people. That's 40+ people covered.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1477342248' post='3161633'] Glare at the drummer so everyone else knows it was their fault [/quote] Doesn't work if he's glaring at you.

But you're only as strong as your weakest link. If the drummer has lost it and you've noticed then it's unlikely you're playing with a real solid guy who is likely to adjust back. I've played with drummers who are convinced that they're the time keeper of the band and everyone should follow them. They start every tune with 4 stick clicks. It's not always apparent you're playing with this type of drummer for a while, for various reasons. It wasn't until I started playing with other bands and depping that Inrealised how bad the drummer I was playing with was. Even worse he was blaming all the problems on me and I was losing confidence. It wasn't fun playing with him, it was more like a war. There may be some very experienced players here and a few pros who can recognise this sort of behaviour straight away. I'd challenge them to continue playing out of time with a drummer right to the end of a tune because he's convinced everyone else in the band is wrong. Ultimately you can never win and leaving is the only option, then watch the band struggle as they go through a string of bass players. Drums and bass lock in together. All the other instruments can shift easily around the beat and it makes no difference to the song. All the micro-timing is absorbed. But if the bass and drums are not locked in you have a real problem. It's all very well saying sack the drummer, but you can't do that mid gig or if you have a string of gigs lined up.

Sorry. If the drummer hasn't sorted himself by the first beat of the next bar, then I'm going with him. The rest of the band should be communicating by this point and everyone will shift. The same happens if it's a bodged fill, the musicians should spot this and make adjustment there and then before the first beat of the next bar. That's always been what happens in every band I've played in. No one carries on regardless. Everyone listens and watches.

Yes. Maintain eye contact.

Maybe people are reading too much into this. The OP is pretty clear about the situation. "Microsecond".