warwickhunt

Crickey was the bassline that busy (doubled) all of the way through the song? I must have heard that song 100's of times and didn't realise it was so busy, though I can imagine the lift at the end being doubled like that.

[quote name='JTUK' post='1058236' date='Dec 14 2010, 09:50 AM']I have 3 and play 2 of them all the time... so I will probably sell the 3rd in the NY..but I have been saying that for 18 months now. IF I get the right price for it, then it will go, I am pretty sure...but I'll not give it away.[/quote] Stop teasing and tell what the 'NY Sale' bass is then!

[quote name='JPJ' post='1058345' date='Dec 14 2010, 11:22 AM']So Mr Hunt, if I was to wander into the Fat Ox on Friday night, would I hear the Bolin in action?[/quote] I'd even buy you a pint to influence your view! I'm defo taking the Bolin, just torn between the PRS or my Streamer for the other... not taking all three as there's a silly amount of bliddy instruments knocking about on stage as it is.

I owned a 'silly' amount of Warwick basses a few years back (anybody remember my sell off? ). It was very liberating when I went down to a couple of basses and despite buying and selling a few since then I've realised that I could very easily have the 'one' bass but for as long as I can afford a couple of basses that do different stuff then why shouldn't I. I do have to go with you Chris, there is something liberating about having one bass.

[quote name='skelf' post='1057782' date='Dec 13 2010, 08:35 PM']The part that bugs me the most was that they knew they could not delivery it but still took the booking made no mention of it being impossible to deliver. They have got the weather to blame so the insurance is void for the next day delivery. If however the bass has been damaged while kicking about their warehouse that should be different. I am hoping all will be well with the bass but if not I will be perusing a claim for any damage done while in their care.[/quote] That's what bugs me; I've organised a courier (UPS through Interparcel) to collect a cab and sent a couple of Leatherman tools via Royal Mail and BOTH parties accepted enhanced payment for next day delivery yet knew fine well they couldn't fulfil their obligation! The worst part is that Interparcel couldn't even collect on the agreed date despite no new snow or change in weather conditions for days. Grrrrr

[quote name='obbm' post='1057635' date='Dec 13 2010, 06:36 PM']Hence seriously concerned and bl**dy annoyed with Interparcel and UPS.[/quote] Ditto, on the 7th Dec I booked a parcel to be collected from Glasgow on Friday 10th (plenty of warning for Interparcel/UPS to organise collection), unfortunately they couldn't collect Friday 10th but could do it today (13th), so have they... apparently not according to the tracking details! [quote name='Musicman20' post='1057638' date='Dec 13 2010, 06:38 PM']Id suggest a claim against the parcel company. Im not sure whether they will say the weather is something you cant complain against, but they should at least give you a discount.[/quote] The devil is in the detail and just as Royal Mail have managed to sidestep guaranteed delivery (despite the barstewards RM taking my money for the service) by quoting the weather as a factor beyond their control (Durgh the weather is beyond their control but taking money for a guaranteed delivery which can't happen IS within their control), so couriers are able to do the same; it'll be in the small print! Rant off and as a fellow sufferer of incompetence, I feel for you Dave.

[quote name='budget bassist' post='1056878' date='Dec 13 2010, 01:33 AM']I can contribute to this thread by saying, one of the local music shops in nottingham had/has a Bolin... however, I never played it.... That is all![/quote] If it's the same one it was in that shop a couple of years ago, I called up about it when on the hunt for one. IIRC it's a 5 string and despite it being there for at least a year when I called, they wouldn't budge on their price of about £2k

[quote name='Count Bassie' post='1056893' date='Dec 13 2010, 02:44 AM']I had a 2x10 cab years ago, the Trace, without the horn- never saw one with a 5" installed.[/quote] It was actually a pair of 10's and a pair of 5's. TE ran big ads with Mark King promoting them.

Will you still have this on Friday? Totally unscientific but I wondered how it'd perform at The Fat Ox gig swapped with my Aggies!

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1056526' date='Dec 12 2010, 08:51 PM']Nice! Doooooooooom![/quote] Each to his own but putting aside the effected tone, that wasn't a tone that I'd try and recreate BUT I stress 'each to his own'!

[quote name='Roland Rock' post='1053291' date='Dec 9 2010, 08:09 PM']My old 'mini stack'. It was enough to put me off ss for life![/quote] Can you clarify! That looks like a nice SS rig... what's to put you off SS for life?

[quote name='gareth' post='1056388' date='Dec 12 2010, 07:46 PM']The eventual winner was "pushed on" by a 1 feedback bidder[/quote] Dismissing the 'potential' shill bidder it'd still be £700 which (IMHO) just before Christmas is less than I think it'd have made mid-Summer... a lot more than I'd be wanting to pay but that's the thing about 'Supply and Demand'!

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='1056201' date='Dec 12 2010, 04:57 PM']I'm talking in frequency bands though. Ported or sealed, I don't think there is much difference below 200hz (unless the sealed is seriously tiny and already rolling off by then). The cab material stuff, with flexing and suchlike is when it is acting as a pressure device, so is losing energy where that matters, which is low, but the stuff above that, aside from the out of phase reflection from a smooth surface, are down to the speakers own properties. This is what I am trying to confirm, with someone who actually knows. Maybe rephrase; 'what about a speaker enclosure affects the frequency response above 200hz, aside from internal reflections that are avoidable through lining?'.[/quote] I see what you mean but surely the effect that a cab has on what you are hearing is inextricably linked to all of the factors and that must surely include those below 200hz (BTW I've no qualification in acoustics so I have no idea if the 200hz you quoted is an accurate figure ) However, (just thinking out loud) before we get embroiled in the effect of cab design on the tone of a given speaker... going back to the question of the difference between a 10" and a 12" speaker. Surely there are far too many variables between speaker manufacturers products to even worry about the affect on the 'low end' of extraneous factors such as cabs and their design. Not all 12" speakers are able to accurately reproduce a given sound never mind a 10" v 12" debate. Yes/No?

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='1056163' date='Dec 12 2010, 04:27 PM']Can one of the experts confirm/disprove this?: the effect of the design of the box generally (unles you get horn loaded and suchlike) mostly affects 200hz and below, the mids are affected to an extend by the lining of the box and how reflective it is, but most of the upper stuff is down to the speaker's own properties. Which is why guitar speakers have their own sound since that low stuff isn't very relevant, but a bass cabinet is down to the box design relating to the speakers.[/quote] Not sure what you mean! You've asked if it be confirmed/disproved that design of a cab affects the sound but then you've gone on to say that the design generally affects frequencies below 200hz, that the mids may be affected by lining materials and finally "a bass cabinet is down to the box design relating to the speakers"... surely all of those things are exactly what is being discussed or am I misunderstanding something? Aside from what you've confirmed can/does affect the sound coming from a speaker that is housed in an enclosure, all you've got to do is consider what happens if you take the same driver and fit it into a completely different enclosure. Even the materials that the cab is made from affect the sound, added to which if you don't brace a cab effectively that alters the tone; I'd think that design of a cab and its affect on tone would be apparent by comparing a ported and a sealed enclosure.

[quote name='Delberthot' post='1055779' date='Dec 12 2010, 10:48 AM']I used an 800RB with a 1153 for years - that was when I was happy with my gear before the days of Talkbs and Basschat poisoned my mind[/quote] I had the 800rb + 1153 and 2103 (the early vinyl covered models with the 10's and the 5's), nice little rig which I'd not turn my nose up at even now.

[quote name='The Bass Doc' post='1055992' date='Dec 12 2010, 01:31 PM']I'm thinking Gretsch but would like a second opinion. [/quote] I'd thought some kind of hollowbody and his thumb seems to be hovering over an 'F' hole; it seems to have a cream pup surround a bit like the Gretsche or Epiphone Cassidy bass. It looks like a knurled upper strap button which should give it away to someone in the know. I'm going to agree with you though Howie. Oh and yes a lush track (regardless of the Carpenters comparisons) with a nice tone to the bass... even if it isn't the bass in the video!

[quote name='The Bass Doc' post='1055942' date='Dec 12 2010, 12:36 PM']OK, what's the bass at 0.45?[/quote] Do you know or are 'you' stumped?

[quote name='StevieD_FenderP2009' post='1055940' date='Dec 12 2010, 12:36 PM']I was a bit dubious over doing it as I thought it might end up enbalancing the pick ups and ultimately wrecking my bass in some way.[/quote] You'd not wreck your bass but you might have a discrepancy in output and/or tone between the pups, which tbh might not necessarily be in a negative way. Loads of people chuck different pups into basses and give no thought to anything other than is it active/passive; Billy Sheehan famously had a Gibson mudbucker fitted into his Precision (our very own 'the bass doc' had one fitted in a bass way before I heard of BS) with interesting results but it makes more sense to the the pair matched.

Just an opinion but I'd not mismatch the pups (ie one Bart one Tobias) if you can help it as it can give unpredictable results. IMHO you'd be better off going for the pair of pups then replace the preamp OR replace the preamp and then replace the pups as a pair at a later date.

[quote name='LukeFRC' post='1055915' date='Dec 12 2010, 12:22 PM']and repeat ad infinitum till it goes. well we will see, i might do that, i would take an offer around there, its getting so close to christmas im going to use it at the carol service tonight and then withdraw it from sale and think about it again in the new year. nothing wrong with the thing, and i like it, and the too much power thing has been solved by the new cab. so its just size and wieght and living on the 3rd floor. we shall see! but going to a shop with it is a no no this tread has shown me[/quote] It might seem obvious but I have you considered a straight swap on BC for something smaller? There may be someone after an amp with a bit more clout (which the QT certainly has) who has something that might suit you... just a thought.

[quote name='AttitudeCastle' post='1055835' date='Dec 12 2010, 11:24 AM']I'm only going on my (small amount of) common sense, But 12" speakers have more low end than 10" speakers? (in regards to 2 or 4 of them) Or is it just more mids? (which is what i have been told) THANK YOU in advance [/quote] 12" speakers to not in themselves have more low (mid/top) than 10" speakers... in fact some 12" speakers don't have as much low (mid/top) as some other 12" speakers! Aside from the spec of the actual speakers/drivers you have to factor in the design of the cabinet that they are fitted into. There is no universal law that the larger the speaker the more bottom end you get from it as there are a multitude of other factors to consider and unfortunately 'common sense' doesn't enter into the equation. Drawing from personal experience, I've owned 2x10 cabs that produce as much bottom end as 2x15 cabs and on numerous occasions over the last couple of years I've been in close confines of a massive array of cabs with all sorts of driver sizes that have reinforced that you can't make assumptions based on driver size; thinking in particular of an old 2x15 cab (no horn or tweeter) with (IIRC) EV drivers that reproduced more top end than any 2/4/8 x10 I've ever heard! <edit> [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QTRhgg1FEs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QTRhgg1FEs[/url] In NO WAY scientific but this was a little gtt with 5" 10" 12" speakers involved. It doesn't serve as any way of demonstrating the merits of one speaker against another (especially as the sound is from a little digital camera on video mode and there is a different amp being used in each case; all be it with EQ flat) but standing in the room doing that little clip, you wouldn't say that the PJB 'lacked' low end or that the 4x10 had more top and the x2 1x12 had more mids etc.

[quote name='LukeFRC' post='1055858' date='Dec 12 2010, 11:41 AM']i spent the morning looking for info about my amp, theres not much out there but I'm leaning towards keeping the thing rather than give it away at a daftly low price. i think it will fit in my big rucksack[/quote] it's always the case that for ANY piece of equipment, there is a buyer out there... at the right price. Ultimately you will have a price at which you will not let it go, if nobody is prepared to pay above that price threshold then it stays with you. If you aren't as yet at that price then it's worth knocking another £20-£25 off and seeing what happens.

[quote name='LukeFRC' post='1055810' date='Dec 12 2010, 11:10 AM']which did you prefer the H&K or markbass stuff? given that it'sall been sold now ??[/quote] No competition; H&K